Hi, my name is Darrell. I'm an OTR truck driver for over 25 years. During my off time I love doing backyard cooks. I have a 48" Lang Deluxe smoker, Rec-Tec pellet smoker,1 Weber Genesis 330, 1 Weber Performer (blue), 2 Weber kettles (1 black and 1 Copper), 1 26" Weber kettle, a WSM, 8 Maverick Redi Chek thermometers, a PartyQ, 2 SnS, Grill Grates, Cast Iron grates, 1 ThermoPop (orange) and 2 ThermoPens (pink and orange) and planning on adding more cooking accessories. Now I have an Anova sous vide, the Dragon blower and 2 Chef alarms from Thermoworks.
I wonder how cost per cord of wood actually compares to the same cooking capacity in charcoal. Here a cord of wood is $200 or $250. I know I use a lot more fuel (wood or charcoal) in my offset than in a cooker like the kettle.
Same here, when it comes to wood. Even if I have to look for downed trees on Craigslist, there is too much free stuff out there to be paying a fortune for wood in this area.
I had issues maintaining consistent temps on long cooks using KBB in my 26-inch kettle with SNS. I found that it produced a ton of ash which clogged the holes in the charcoal basket. Temps would start to plummet less than 2 hours into the cook and I was constantly have to stoke the coals and shaking down ash just to keep temps consistent. I would also have to add more coals 3 hours into the cook.
The last few cooks I used Weber charcoal and I can nail temps for 4-5 hours without having to do anything. I did pork belly burnt ends this weekend and after 5 hours I still had anough coals for another hour, easily. In my hands, Weber charcoal is much better. It produces less ash, burns slower, and produces consistent heat.
My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:
SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron Griddle
Grill Grate for SnS
Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:
Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:
Thermapen MK4 (pink)
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:
8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
Sounds like you've got a marriage made in heaven, ColonialDawg --Weber charcoal and the SnS.
Using Weber in the PBC, I've had the same experience you've had with KBB/SnS combo. Too much ash and difficult to maintain temps. KBB or KPro works best in my PBC.
For me, the jury's still out for Weber vs. Kingsford in the WSCGC with/without the SnS. That's why I enjoyed reading your post.
I as well use KBB for shorter cooks. For low and Slow JakeT I use the Kamado Joe lump. It works great takes a little bit to get going but creates a nice even fire. I have tried some of the cheaper lump like Royal Oak and El Diablo. I find Kamado Joe works a lot better. The El Diablo is mesquite and definitely has a different flavor profile than the Kamado Joe. The Kamado Joe is more clean like briquettes and less noticeable.
Yeah I got some of the Kamado Joe the other day, definitely takes a bit to get going. Crazy how much more dense it is than the mesquite lump I'm used to. I've been using the Lazzari mesquite for so long I notice I miss the distinct smell though.
I tried cowboy lump and hated it. I live right near Lazarri Fuel company and get 20# bags for $9. Mesquite or Oak. Very happy with both but the oak does have some smaller chunks and dust. But at $9 a pop it's a great deal.
That's awesome you live right there. You go down to their headquarters to get it at that rate? The one thing I've always disliked about the Lazzari is how much it sparks. Other than that the flavor you get from it is awesome. Though some people say the mesquite is too strong, I love it.
I’ve posted these before. The HQ is this big post apocalyptic looking area with an old creaky staircase up to the office. You order and pay and they ring a bell which summons a worker to load your car.
I live fifteen minutes from there in a much nicer looking area. Lol.
I personally find the mesquite too strong unless I’m making pizzas or a very quick cook.
Nice, yeah I work all over the bay, I know a block can make a world of difference lol. I prefer the east bay over the peninsula though, if you can handle the extra heat in the summer.
You should definitely drop in to the HQ in Brisbane when nearby. I load up the car about once a month as I cook on Gossamer 4-5 nights a week. If you do stop by I don't recommend buying the 40# bags even though they are only $15. They are heavier and a lot more of the lump is broken up.
I work in the city and the wife in upper peninsula so Pacifica with cool ocean breeze works for us..
KBB although Weber leaves less ash (so less shaking and tapping on long cooks) and I still have a big bag I bought for comparison purposes. Unless it becomes easier to find (on short notice!), I likely will not use it instead of KBB. Cowboy lump used to get regular use, but clunkers (flower pot chips! chunks of tin can! gravel!) started appearing regularly, then sparking. When I want chunk, FOGO although when I use up my two remaining bags, I doubt I'll replace them.
Bottom line is - I've used KBB for so long, I've learned its peculiarities and don't really mind the "excess" ash. Sales are upcoming, and I have plenty in the garage to get me to them.
Last edited by Harry; March 26, 2018, 08:15 PM.
Reason: TYPOS!
Update - new deck while I wrote the OP. Decided I didn't like the ash dribbling onto the new deck. Got a welding blanket to catch it; am also switching to Weber.
If not cooking outdoors, I am cooking on the stovetop with my 14" carbon steel wok, 12" CI skillet, or in the oven with my two Lodge CI pizza pans, or two dutch ovens. I've also got a nifty Lodge carbon steel grill pan that rocks for veggies outdoors.
What I find crazy is how pricing can vary between my Lowes and Home Depot, right next to each other (with Sam's Club behind the two). Last night Home Depot had no charcoal on sale, and when I went in Lowes, they had one bag of Weber for $12 (plus a pallet that was not down low), and they had the Royal Oak 15# bags 2 for $8. The same 15# bag of Royal Oak was $10 or $12 next door at Home Depot. Needless to say, I picked up the 1 bag of Weber and 2 bags of the Royal Oak just because $4 per was too good a deal to pass up, and the Royal Oak worked fine for me on short cooks in test runs recently, as well as for shorter cooks (ribs) with the SNS.
I have always used KBB (Kingsford Blue Bag) just because it is so available and cheap. I recently bought several bags of Royal Oak from Lowes because they had it on sale and it was cheaper than the KBB (they will have their Memorial Day sale on KBB and I will stock up then). So far I hate the Royal Oak. Hard to light. Poor experience with low and slow, especially if I try lighting a "snake" in my weber (which works great with the KBB). Haven't tried the Kingsford Professional but I picked up a bag last week and it will be the next bag I open. Can't imagine that it is that much better than KBB to justify the price difference, especially when Lowes has their Memorial Day sale.
I'm a "cheapest food safe lump I can get delivered via Amazon prime" guy, but I will say this, the lumpwood is so irregular in shape and size that it can be a challenge to keep the temp steady on my bullet smoker.
One day I'l try briquettes, and assume their uniform shape and burn will be boring and predicatable and give me more drinking time overnight.
Wait....... er.... what' the cheapest food safe briquettes I can get delivered via prime......
Other than Original the only other one I've used is Professional. It burns hotter and faster than Original and produces a bit less ash. It's nice for shorter cooks but I wouldn't use it for low/slow.
My opinion is purely speculative, and only on the flavored ones. And that is to just use a wood chunk instead of paying a premium for the wood flavored charcoal.
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