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  • randy56
    Club Member
    • Aug 2017
    • 414
    • Newburgh In

    Judging school

    going to judging school this weekend at the Jack 10/27/17 , anyone have any tips?
  • kmhfive
    Club Member
    • Mar 2017
    • 3003
    • Northern Illinois
    • Weber Kettle -- 22.5" (In-Service Date June 2015)
      Slow-n-Sear/Drip-n-Griddle/Grill Grates (In-Service Date March 2016)
      Pit Boss 820 (Retired)
      GMG Jim Bowie WiFi (In-Service Date April 2017)
      Maverick ET-733
      Fireboard
      Home-brewer

    #2
    No tips, just well wishes. Have fun!

    Comment

    • FireMan
      Charter Member
      • Jul 2015
      • 7330
      • Bottom of Winnebago

      #3
      Learn good!

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      • RonB
        Club Member
        • Apr 2016
        • 12122
        • Near Richmond VA
        • Weber Performer Deluxe
          SNS
          Pizza insert
          Rotisserie
          Smokenator 1000
          Cookshack Smokette Elite
          2 Thermapens
          Chefalarm
          Dot
          lots of probes.
          CyberQ

        #4
        This will be the time to be judgemental.

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        • DWCowles
          Founding Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 9762
          • Smiths Grove, Ky
          • Hi, my name is Darrell. I'm an OTR truck driver for over 25 years. During my off time I love doing backyard cooks. I have a 48" Lang Deluxe smoker, Rec-Tec pellet smoker,1 Weber Genesis 330, 1 Weber Performer (blue), 2 Weber kettles (1 black and 1 Copper), 1 26" Weber kettle, a WSM, 8 Maverick Redi Chek thermometers, a PartyQ, 2 SnS, Grill Grates, Cast Iron grates, 1 ThermoPop (orange) and 2 ThermoPens (pink and orange) and planning on adding more cooking accessories. Now I have an Anova sous vide, the Dragon blower and 2 Chef alarms from Thermoworks.

          #5
          Welcome randy56

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          • HawkerXP
            Club Member
            • Jul 2016
            • 4927
            • Northern Virginia
            • 3 Weber kettles, and a PBC
              Thermopop
              Dot w two probes
              Slo n Sear
              Cold beer

            #6
            Nothing from me other then have fun, take notes and tell us all about it.

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            • Jon Solberg
              Former Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 4872

              #7
              Enjoy it. What an honor to be judging to Jack! Congratulations!

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              • Huskee
                Pit Boss
                • May 2014
                • 14667
                • central MI, USA
                • Follow me on Instagram, huskeesbarbecue

                  Want a free bottle of whiskey? Check out my link to Flaviar.com, you join with it, we both get a $50 bottle free.

                  Smokers / Grills
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                  • PBC
                  • Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
                  • Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
                  • Dyna-Glo XL Premium dual chamber charcoal grill
                  • Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
                  • Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (black)
                  • Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
                  • Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
                  • Brinkmann cabinet charcoal smoker (repurposed)

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                  • (7) Maverick ET-732s
                  • (1) Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
                  • (1) Smoke by ThermoWorks
                  • (1) Signals by ThermoWorks
                  • Thermapen MkII, orange
                  • ThermoPop, yellow
                  • ThermoWorks ChefAlarm
                  • Morpilot 6-probe wireless
                  • ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
                  • ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well

                  Accessories
                  • Instant Pot 6qt
                  • Anova Bluetooth SV
                  • Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
                  • Kindling Cracker King (XL)
                  • BBQ Dragon
                  • Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
                  • Weber grill topper
                  • Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
                  • Drip 'N Griddle Pan, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by ABCbarbecue
                  • Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter

                  Beverages
                  • Favorite summer beer: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold
                  • Fav other beer: DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
                  • Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
                  • Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
                  • Wine: Red- big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
                  • Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, Eagle Rare, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig, Basil Hayden's. Neat please.
                  • Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.

                  About me
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                  Location: Farwell, Michigan- near Clare. (dead center of lower peninsula)

                  Occupation:
                  • Healthcare- Licensed & Registered Respiratory Therapist (RRT) for MidMichigan Health, a University of Michigan Health System.

                #8
                Be prepared to "never compare". I still don't understand that one. 'Judge each offering on its own. Let the scores compare at the end, but you don't compare.'
                Sorry, but if one is excellent and the next isn't, it gets a lower score from me. The teacher got mad at me when I rated an offering, which he said he'd give a 9, but I had rated as a 6 or 7 or something. He asked why and I said it tasted like my mom made it in a crock pot. Everyone laughed but it made him upset. He said, loudly, like an angry substitute teacher in a junior high science class "YOU'RE COMPARING, DON'T DO THAT, NEVER COMPARE!".. [eyeroll].

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                • randy56
                  Club Member
                  • Aug 2017
                  • 414
                  • Newburgh In

                  #9
                  Thanks to all, looking forward to it, 90 Domestic and International Teams and 25,000 Fans Ready to Celebrate 29 years of the Jack Daniel’s World Championship Invitational Barbecue.

                  Barbecue teams from around the world are preparing to smoke, season and sear their way to a chance to be named the Grand Champion at the 29th Annual Jack Daniel’s World Championship Invitational Barbecue in historic Lynchburg on Saturday, Oct. 28.

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                  • randy56
                    Club Member
                    • Aug 2017
                    • 414
                    • Newburgh In

                    #10
                    Follow up on Judging school, Out of frustration, after cooking at 5 KCBS contest this year. And receiving lower scores that expected, I attended the school at the Jack. To better understand my future in competition cooking. Now I can say that I'm a certified barbecue judge. Being on the cooks side of looking at there methods of teaching folks to be a good judge they do a very good job of trying to make it as fair as possible. And I do not know how anyone could make it any better. And yes Huskee, Never compare, has to be the most difficult part. When you take a bite of someone's else food, the human mind compare's the product to you own, to restaurant quality, and others you have had in the past. Good luck with that one.
                    Now I understand score's much better, The food served, was not a very good BBQ, how ever it worked well for the teaching of the class. 66 people attended, so here is one example of a new judge, first is chicken, we tabulated our scores, and the instructor ask around the room who gave this chicken a 9, only one woman. When he ask why she scored it a 9. Now it's about 2:30 in the afternoon, class started at 11am. So her response to the instructor was I'm hungry! that's why I gave it a 9.
                    Out of the 66 attending only about 15% or less were cooks, or competed in BBQ contest. If you have ever considered attending a KCBS judging school please do so, It is a great program, we need good Judges, It's amazing how many people donated there time to come to the class and help out, to make it a successful. And what a great group of people they were. Could go on but my typing finger is tired.
                    Yes, I joined the pit in August, and have been on here almost every day since. And until last week have been quietly reading your post and information. This website has to be the greatest source of information on BBQ there is.

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                    • kmhfive
                      kmhfive commented
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                      Congratulations! What an amazing experience. It will do nothing but help you. Glad you enjoyed it.
                  • Huskee
                    Pit Boss
                    • May 2014
                    • 14667
                    • central MI, USA
                    • Follow me on Instagram, huskeesbarbecue

                      Want a free bottle of whiskey? Check out my link to Flaviar.com, you join with it, we both get a $50 bottle free.

                      Smokers / Grills
                      • Yoder loaded Wichita offset smoker
                      • PBC
                      • Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
                      • Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
                      • Dyna-Glo XL Premium dual chamber charcoal grill
                      • Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
                      • Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (black)
                      • Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
                      • Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
                      • Brinkmann cabinet charcoal smoker (repurposed)

                      Thermometers
                      • (3) Maverick XR-50: 4-probe Wireless Thermometers
                      • (7) Maverick ET-732s
                      • (1) Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
                      • (1) Smoke by ThermoWorks
                      • (1) Signals by ThermoWorks
                      • Thermapen MkII, orange
                      • ThermoPop, yellow
                      • ThermoWorks ChefAlarm
                      • Morpilot 6-probe wireless
                      • ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
                      • ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well

                      Accessories
                      • Instant Pot 6qt
                      • Anova Bluetooth SV
                      • Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
                      • Kindling Cracker King (XL)
                      • BBQ Dragon
                      • Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
                      • Weber grill topper
                      • Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
                      • Drip 'N Griddle Pan, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by ABCbarbecue
                      • Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter

                      Beverages
                      • Favorite summer beer: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold
                      • Fav other beer: DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
                      • Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
                      • Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
                      • Wine: Red- big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
                      • Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, Eagle Rare, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig, Basil Hayden's. Neat please.
                      • Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.

                      About me
                      Real name: Aaron
                      Location: Farwell, Michigan- near Clare. (dead center of lower peninsula)

                      Occupation:
                      • Healthcare- Licensed & Registered Respiratory Therapist (RRT) for MidMichigan Health, a University of Michigan Health System.

                    #11
                    Congrats, Randy! It is hard to think how they want you to. The benefit of the current methodology is fairness (at least in theory), but if no offerings are any good (to you) then you rate all low if you can't compare. If you get to rank offerings 1-10 on which you like best, then to me that's a better way to get a clear winner. It depends on how you think. There is no perfect judging system.

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