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    Newbie questions -- thermo placement and uneven cooking

    I'm pretty new to BBQing, and brand new to the PBC. I've done a couple of cooks, and have some questions -- hoping to figure things out before I ruin the Thanksgiving turkey next week!!

    1) Anyone have a suggestion for the best way to place the pit thermometer in the PBC, when you're just hanging stuff and not using a grate? I know you're supposed to feed the wire through the rebar hole, but how (and to what) do you affix the probe itself? Seems like just letting it hang there would shorten the life of the probe's wire. The probe has a clip for attaching to a grate, but what to do without a grate?

    2) In the two cooks I've done so far, I've gotten really varied results. First cook, I did three racks of pork baby back ribs, a pork loin (not a tenderloin), potatoes & onions in the hanging basket, and sweet potatoes on skewers. I'd watched a lot of videos -- Noah's and others' -- to figure out how much time things should take. However, nothing cooked in the time I expected -- the meats took much longer (nearly 4 hours for the ribs, almost 2 for the loin), the sweet potatoes much less time (40 minutes, though some were overcooked and others under), and the potatoes & onions never did get done (they hung for 2 1/2 hours then I took them inside and sauteed them). The loin was great, but the ribs were really inconsistent -- some tender, some overcooked, even on the SAME rack. The meat pulled back from the bones on some ribs, but not others, again on the same rack. The bottoms of two of the racks were inedibly charred.

    On the second cook, I did a tri-tip and three racks of St. Louis style pork spareribs. The tri-tip cooked for 1 hour 10 minutes (most recipes say 35-45 minutes) and was still very rare when I sliced it. The ribs had the same results as before -- inconsistent. I tried wrapping foil around the bottom two or three ribs about 3/4 of the way through the cook, but they still got burned.

    Let me say that I've set the bottom port correctly for my altitude, I'm following the instructions for lighting, and I don't do a lot of "peeking" during the cook. I didn't have my pit thermometer yet, so I couldn't track the temp in the pit, but it sure felt hot. I know some guys flip the ribs midway through cooking, or cut the racks in half -- I'm willing to do these things, but first want to figure out if I'm doing something wrong. After all, the main reason I chose the PBC was for its reputation for being "unfussy". It just seems like my heat isn't as uniform throughout the cooker as it's supposed to be.

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    I generally use a spare PBC hook and a pot clip to support the ambient temp probe:

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    Easier than winding the probe wire around a rebar.

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    #3
    I don’t have a PBC, although several people around here are trying to influence me, but check out this channel

    https://pitmaster.amazingribs.com/fo...-barrel-cooker
    Last edited by klflowers; November 20, 2020, 02:51 PM.

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    • mnavarre
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      PBC... PBC... PBC..! Figured I'd beat HawkerXP to the punch

    • HawkerXP
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      WTH!

    • smokin fool
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      Somebodies cuttin yer grass there Hawk!!!!

    #4
    There is a lot of good info under the PBC in channels. You do not get uniform temps in the barrel.

    Please check out the PBC section under channels. I can explain more but need to hit the hay.

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      #5
      Sometimes I just use a wad of aluminum foil wrapped around the rebar to hold the probe for my smoke thermometer.

      Never had the problems you describe about inconsistencies within the same rack of ribs. On long racks cooked in the PBC, the bottom few bones get slightly burnt but usually still taste pretty good. You may be having some temp swings since you are just getting started. that usually settles down after a few cooks when the lid gets coated a little bit.

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        #6
        I loop the wire of the ambient thermometer probe once around the rebar and let it hang at about the mid-level of the hanging meat, 2 inches or more away from the meat to keep away from its thermal shadow.

        I find the PBC performance is most reproducible if you light the fire the same way each time and get to know it using the same brand of charcoal. The learning curve is surprisingly short. You may want to take a look at this topic on lighting the PBC.

        The next level up is to monitor the meat and ambient temps to give you a heads up and let you see how the PBC cooks, using a Fireboard, if you can swing it.

        And finally, when you've used it for a while and want it to run pretty much like an appliance, get a Pit Viper fan, PBC-compatible adapter from BBQ Guru, and Fireboard driver cable.

        The PBC's temps are never uniform--I always use 2 ambient thermometer probes placed on opposite sides of the barrel, and they can sometimes differ by 40° or more, often switching back and forth between higher/lower readings, depending on what I'm cooking. Taking the average of those probe readings helps me to keep my mitts off the barrel while it's doing its thing.

        Enjoy smoking on your new PBC. It's a sweet cooker, for sure.

        Kathryn

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        • Kascon11
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          Is there a thread on your set up (with part list). I cannot find he PBC adapter on the BBQGuru site.

        • fzxdoc
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          Kascon11, my setup looks the same the first post on this topic: https://pitmaster.amazingribs.com/fo...-barrel-cooker.
          Order the XL Grill Dome adapter from BBQ Guru; email them and they will send you an instruction sheet on how to install it on your PBC. Basically you can slot it into the barrel seam on the inside and use the hole for the vent to secure it into place. That's what I did

        • fzxdoc
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          (continued) Also, order the Pit Viper fan from BBQ Guru. It's cheaper and more than adequate for the PBC. The Pit Bull fan is overkill. I have the Fireboard with the driver cable. Works great.

          Kathryn

        #7
        I use tin foil to create a bridge between the rebar. Then poke a hole in the middle an run the ambient probe through the hole. Definitely check out the above links to the PBC channel. Follow those instructions and you'll be golden. May take a few more attempts but you will definitely get to where you want.

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