I plan on doing a brisket (flat) and 3 slabs of baby back ribs one after the other (with some overlap time). My plan is once the brisket is up to 165F, I'll wrap it and finish it in the oven. Going by PBC videos, I'm figuring this will take about 9 hours from lighting to finish.
My question is: should I add more coals when I put in the ribs, or will the original coals take it all the way? If I add, should I add unlit or burning coals?
I'm planning on putting a 4 oz chunk of oak in with the brisket, and perhaps a similar chunk of apple with the ribs.
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If your 9 hour estimate is about right, why not just put the ribs in with the flat at the appropriate time in hopes of everything being done at roughly the same time?
Last edited by MBMorgan; January 7, 2017, 11:46 AM.
Thanks for the suggestion on the coals - and yes, I plan on having the brisket sit in a faux cambro while the ribs are smoking. I'm convinced the longer they sit in the cambro (within reason!), the better they turn out!
If your 9 hour estimate is about right, why not just put the ribs in with the flat at the appropriate time in hopes of everything being done at roughly the same time?
I want the brisket to sit for a couple hours in a faux cambro - they always seem to get a bit more tender that way!
> Weber Genesis EP-330
> Grilla Grills Original Grilla (OG) pellet smoker with Alpha/Connect
> Grilla Grills Pellet Pizza Oven
> Pit Barrel Cooker (gone to a new home)
> WeberQ 2000 (on "loan" to a relative (I'll never see it again))
> Old Smokey Electric (for chickens mostly - when it's too nasty out
to fiddle with a more capable cooker)
> Luhr Jensen Little Chief Electric - Top Loader circa 1990 (smoked fish & jerky)
> Thermoworks Smoke
> 3 Thermoworks Chef Alarms
> Thermoworks Thermapen One
> Thermoworks Thermapen Classic
> Thermoworks Thermopop
> Thermoworks Square DOT
> Thermoworks IR-GUN-S
> Joule Turbo Sous Vide Circulator
> Searzall torch
> BBQ Guru Rib Ring
> WΓSTHOF, Dalstrong, and Buck knives
> Paprika App on Mac and iOS
I want the brisket to sit for a couple hours in a faux cambro - they always seem to get a bit more tender that way!
That's consistent with what I'm suggesting. I'm just saying that you don't necessarily have to cook them sequentially. Just take into account the brisket holding time that you anticipate and figure out when to start the ribs cooking while the flat is still in the PBC. You might be able to avoid having to fiddle with a potentially messy charcoal reload that way.
Last edited by MBMorgan; January 7, 2017, 12:44 PM.
Ah, I understand. They are going to overlap by at least an hour and a half, more if the brisket hasn't reached 165F by then. That will give the ribs time to cook, and the brisket time to rest in the cambro. Thanks for the explanation!
I have done this several times. Most of the time there is plenty of fire. You can back into the time and add the riibs a couple of hours before you crutch the brisket.
I have just started some coals in a chimney if it does look like I need some. Very easy to add 20 or 30 hot coals and not miss a beat.
Also have you seen the OCDC coal arrangement? It is in one of the post. This is where you carefully place each coal side by side around the basket in 2 layers. This method seems to get a couple more hours of fire.
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Oh you mean this?!?! This is what i do every time. I can get 10 hours out of this, easy. Ni fiddling. IT does take some time to set up but its not that bad, maybe 15 mins. Worth it as far as I am concerned.
Γ’β¬βΉΓ’β¬βΉΓ’β¬βΉΓ’β¬βΉΓ’β¬βΉΓ’β¬βΉΓ’β¬βΉBut if your cooking them in sequence, you should not have to add any fuel to the fire. Just put the ribs on 3 hours before your ready to eat. I would cook the brisket to 180 F on the PBC then wrap and place in the oven to finish. You don't wanna take that brisket off too soon before you have some good bark built up on that sucka.
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I'm not sure what the "DC" is for, but my wife the psychologist would definitely say I was being "OC" if I lined up the briquettes that way! Now I'm gonna have to try it! Thanks!
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If your 9 hour estimate is about right, why not just put the ribs in with the flat at the appropriate time in hopes of everything being done at roughly the same time?
I agree with MBMorgan , since the flat will take longer (including faux cambro time), you should be able to time your ribs accordingly.
Take a look at this post to give you an idea for cook times at the temperature you like to run your PBC:
It might help you zone in on a good time to load those ribs.
Also, for me, it never hurts to add another chimney of lit coals when I'm changing things around in a cook. I never like to add coals that are not lit because of the dreaded dense white/grey smoke that could result in the PBC, hence the chimney full of lit coals.
I usually get 8 to 9 hours of cook time from a full basket when my PBC perks along at 275ish. I can get up to about 12 hours of cook time at this same temp if I overload the basket to start with. Overload=rounded over with coals.
I like it. I usually leave the center open. To fill it with LIT coals. I put some chips on the bottom then load the lit colas into the hoel in the middle of the basket. grampaEdF
@jecucola, grampa, fzxdoc,@Spinaker, MBMorgan, BigBear, Gator Lau, Just when I was thinking a PBC would be added to My Wish List some "Genius" comes up with a Plan for Stacking Charcoal? This means I would have to Buy a Second Coal Basket so I could start Stacking Charcoal as Soon as I lit the Thing in order to be ready for My Next Cook? Ruin My Budget Sure as Hell! π€ππ³ππ€
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Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
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Grill Grate for SnS
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Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
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Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
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You know we'll lure you into the PBC bunch one of these fine days, Danjohnston949 . It's inevitable. Don't fight it. Plus you might like stacking charcoal. Just kidding.
I actually love Spinaker 's and jecucolo 's photos. All those briquets in a row like little soldiers ready to do their job appeals to the perfectionist side of me. One of these days I'm going to give it a try to see whether I notice any difference in how the fire behaves for a long cook. Plus it would be just plain fun to watch it burn.
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