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    Experiment Concluded! PBC/Billows

    Having owned my PBC since 2018, I'd already watched and become familiar with Noah's videos on the story behind how and why he settled on the design he did, why it ran at hotter temperatures, what happened with the fat and juices dripped down onto the lit coals, the whole concept. Since I'd had a weber for years prior, I was already familiar with smoking ribs, pork shoulders, etc... and two-zone setups, and (every once in a while) turning out good food. Plus I made a number of friends who were pretty darn good outdoor cooks. So I knew what good BBQ tasted like when it was done well. The PBC did not disappoint.

    It all started when my Weber kettle bit the dust in the summer of '23. Whenever I needed low & slow, or direct grilling, I'd use the Weber. Knowing it would be awhile before I could replace the weber and eager to see how the PBC would perform (I already had the Signals), and being curious, I decided to try out the Billows.

    So last spring, I purchased a Billow's fan to use with my Signals and the PBC. I wanted to try lower and slower on the PBC, without mangling my PBC so I could easily return it to it's original configuration. The Thermoworks product was ideal for this due to the fact they had an adapter for Billows (it's actually labeled for the Big Green Egg) to the air intake that required no drilling or cutting.

    Other than using some high-heat tape, it was simple to mount the Billows adapter to the PBC. Simply use the same screw the default air intake plate uses, then tape around the adapter to seal it tite for airflow. Just don't skimp on the tape. 3-M makes a good high-heat resistant tape that lasts about a year or so through the seasons in Ohio. Once it starts to loosen up, peel off the old (should be easy at that point), and cut and trim new pieces.

    However, this whole setup does somewhat defeat the designed purpose of the PBC, which is (as all you PBC owners know) is a hotter, faster smoker. And it adds more complexity to heat management. It's fun to play with fire, but not usually when the fire is way down in a barrel and the only way to reach it is top down! Arm hair does grow back, at least mine did (multiple times). I definitely learned quickly through some trial and error, better timing on when to do what.

    So, for those wondering, does it actually work? Well, yes. You can keep the PBC running at a cooler temp, easily holding 225-250 'ish through a long cook. Now all this depended on how you'd start it! A wax starter is about the lowest and slowest way to start. That takes soooo long to get to a reasonable temp for cooking, but it's the easiest way to keep from overshooting your desired temp. Using a handful of briquettes (maybe 10-15) works better, and doesn't seem to overheat the PBC as fast as a half chimney does. Just don't leave the lid off for too long. I usually kept it cracked (per normal PBC instructions) until I was about 20-30 degrees shy of the target temp, added the wood, let it smoke for about 15 minutes, add the food and cover the PBC fully, then let the Billows manage the heat from there. The temps would swing high near the beginning maybe about 50 degrees, but after a short time, would settle down.

    Did the low and slow improve/change/mess up flavor on the PBC? That's a hard call. I would say cooking things like chicken or turkey and expecting crisper skin like what you'd normally get with a PBC, is not going to happen. Several times I tried to amp up the heat near the end for those meats, but didn't notice much difference and usually charred the skin too much. Flavor-wise, once I got better at managing the fire/smoke, anything that was a large cut normally cooked low and slow didn't seem to have much difference. It was still a pretty darned good cook. From pork to beef, whole turkey and chicken (other than the skin) was pretty much the same. As long as I didn't try to rush the wood smoke or the cook. About the only thing it did was prolong the cooking time and maybe save from reloading some charcoal on long cooks. That part was nice if I was doing a lot of chores around the house and still needed to have dinner ready at a certain time.

    So what did I learn? Background: The whole idea of lower and slower appealed to me because, once or twice I ran into a large cut of very fatty pork shoulder, I thought if I'd been able to cook to temp slower, it might be more tender. First, I've learned that prepping/trimming those cuts makes more difference at the end than trying to wrangle the PBC to do something other than what it's designed to do. Secondly, it's a good excuse to have more than one cooker/smoker and set those up accordingly based on your cook! Lastly, if you like to play more with fire, a quality offset stick burner or cabinet smoker may be a better addition to your backyard stable of cookers.

    All in all, I'd still recommend a PBC right out of the box to anyone who wants to dip their feet into smoking food without spending a fortune to find out if you like it or not. And I plan on leaving the factory air flow management damper in place for the foreseeable future.

    For now, I have my replacement Weber 22" kettle with a bunch of accessories (will be adding an SnS soon, last one for sure, I tell my wife!), a gasser I got for free, and the PBC. This setup still gives me plenty of options. I have a few more cookers/smokers I'm eyeing, but at least with this setup I can turn out decent food!​

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    #2
    Excellent, excellent write up. Your thoughts echo many of mine. For me, the PBC was the best cooker for me to go beyond the Kettle, especially as I was -- due to my inexperience -- having trouble with temp control in the Kettle.

    I don't use my PBC as much as I used to, but it certainly very much has its place. It excels at chicken and ribs (with relatively minimal effort).

    On temperature, sometimes I think the quality of BBQ we associate with low-and-slow has more to do with the inherent characteristics of large offsets than the temperature at which they are cooking (within reason). It certainly would explain why many of us are surprised at the relatively minimal difference between low-and-slow and hot-and-fast on our home cookers for many types of meat.

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    • dpearce
      dpearce commented
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      Yeah it took me awhile to figure out temperature control with the Weber, as well. Now I pretty much know what to do. It was a bit of a relief when I got the PBC, and didn't have to monkey around with the intake.

    #3
    Nice job.

    I also am a Weber Kettle and PBC man. You can do just about anything on them.


    PBJ, PBC, PBX!

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    • Alan Brice
      Alan Brice commented
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      Dunno bout The PBJ or The PBX, but I will stand by the PBC, PBC, PBC!!!

    • Duanessmokedmeats
      Duanessmokedmeats commented
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      PBC, PBX, PBX!

    #4
    I found 5 briskets in the PBC will barely hold 200 with the lid cracked. 4 briskets will run a bit higher.

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    • dpearce
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      Definitely depends on how full the PBC is! I noticed with 6-8 racks of ribs (hanging) it will definitely be a bit cooler. Now, I can't afford 5 briskets, so I'll take your word for it!

    • Jerod Broussard
      Jerod Broussard commented
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      If you are ever called upon, 4 can be BIG, but one has to be much shorter to hang in the middle. The other 4 work with the curvature of the barrel to make room for that dude in the middle. dpearce

    #5
    Originally posted by Michael_in_TX View Post

    On temperature, sometimes I think the quality of BBQ we associate with low-and-slow has more to do with the inherent characteristics of large offsets than the temperature at which they are cooking (within reason). It certainly would explain why many of us are surprised at the relatively minimal difference between low-and-slow and hot-and-fast on our home cookers for many types of meat.
    Agreed. In my experience, low and slow cooks in the PBC didn't outrank cooking at normal PBC temps in taste, quality, texture--at least from my family's perspective. But I had to try a few L&S PBC cooks with a few different meats just to see. Not one changed my mind. I like letting the PBC do its thing.

    Plus, why take more time to get to the good stuff, is my thinking.

    Kathryn​

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    • Duanessmokedmeats
      Duanessmokedmeats commented
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      You are absolutely correct.
      My brisket last Sunday on the PBC proved that. My PBC for some reason stayed @230 for the first 4.5hrs.
      Then finished foil boat @270 for 5.5hrs.
      It had a off smoky taste, so back to running @250 to 290 range.

    #6
    I'm thinking the Billows might be the air intake control I'm looking for. All the other drum smokers have some kind of air intake control.

    Did you use the damper with the Billows ?

    Does using the Billows necessarily mean I must cook low and slow ? Why not set the Billows for 325 * ?

    I would like some temp control on my PBX. I'm not a big fan of cooking between 325 and 350 for anything, even chicken. Here's the chart of my chicken cook yesterday. I spent a lot of time at around 340* .

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      #7
      Lynn Dollar You can set the Billows or any other automatic temp control setup to whatever smoker temperature that you desire at the start of the cook, and it maintains that temp throughout the cook. It is linked to one ambient probe that calls the shots.

      I use a Pit Viper Fan, a BBQ Guru adapter no longer available, and the Fireboard Drive setup. Sometimes I smoke using the ATC setup, sometimes not, depending on my mood, the weather, and when people are coming to dinner.

      There are a few more topics here on The Pit that discuss adapting an ATC to the PBC. Here are some to get you started:







      Kathryn
      Last edited by fzxdoc; November 2, 2025, 07:02 AM.

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        #8
        Thanks ! I have a Billows that I use on my gravity feed. Gonna have to try it on the PBX. I was emailing with Thermoworks yesterday about a separate problem with their app, and they suggested I try the Billows. They have an adapter that fits.

        My concern was as hot as these PBC's run, if I could get control if it over shot the set temp.

        On my GF, if it overshoots, I use the damper on the Billows to cut air flow down.

        Other than that, I can't find a reason to NOT use an ATC.

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        • dpearce
          dpearce commented
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          Don’t forget to get the snap on damper for the Billows. Very helpful for dialing in a particular temp.

        • fzxdoc
          fzxdoc commented
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          My ATC handles the overshoots in temp nicely. l let it settle in after I put the lid on and before I add the meat. It doesn't take long, and then of course the set temp is maintained throughout the cook with the ATC.

          FWIW, with my Pit Viper/Fireboard setup, I always leave the damper wide open.

          Kathryn

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