The good news is that I have Franklin's book in which he published the recipe for the stuff. Surprise, surprise, it contains fresh espresso. I wouldn't mind having an espresso maker in the kitchen and this may be my perfect in. But, the only thing I know about espresso makers is that most of them are too expensive for me to ever convince her we should get one. If my budget is $500 and down, can I get a decent espresso maker? What is it? Where is it? Should I just chuck the idea and suggest we occasionally buy a few shots of espresso from the neighborhood, non-Starbucks, coffee place and being that home to make sauce?
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My wife LOVES Aaron Franklin's espresso barbecue sauce. It used to be available at Amazon and/or at the Franklin Barbecue site. No longer. The only place I could find it was ebay for $24.99 a bottle, waaay out of my price range. That's the bad news.
The good news is that I have Franklin's book in which he published the recipe for the stuff. Surprise, surprise, it contains fresh espresso. I wouldn't mind having an espresso maker in the kitchen and this may be my perfect in. But, the only thing I know about espresso makers is that most of them are too expensive for me to ever convince her we should get one. If my budget is $500 and down, can I get a decent espresso maker? What is it? Where is it? Should I just chuck the idea and suggest we occasionally buy a few shots of espresso from the neighborhood, non-Starbucks, coffee place and being that home to make sauce?Tags: None
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https://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/bl...tarted-guides/ might be a place to start reading. SCG has a LOT of gear, much of it high end and they're very into coffee, so things are pitched to other coffee geeks... but yeah, you can get a good espresso machine for under $500.
Would I do that for just that sauce? No. I'd go get some from your closest coffee shop or even just use regular coffee brewed strong.
But if you want a good machine, yeah, you can get one.Last edited by rickgregory; December 6, 2021, 12:12 PM.
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If we get one, it won't be just for the sauce, Rick. I enjoy a good cup of espresso, but have always lost the domestic battle on whether or not to get a machine.
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Cool. Also, you might want to hit up https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/ for machine advice.
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I guess it depends how often you want to make it, but I am certain you can find cold premade expressos in the fridge or coffee section at the grocery store. It’s probably a lot cheaper than the one at the coffee shop.
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You can almost certainly find an espresso machine to meet your needs for under $500. You might start by reviewing what Seattle Coffee Gear and Whole Latte Love have to offer and to say about various options. Another good source of info is Earl of Coffee.
That said, if you are primarily interested in espresso for cooking/sauces, why not have a look at an AeroPress? For about $30, it produces a coffee concentrate that isn't technically espresso ... but is awfully, awfully close and VERY good.
BTW, the secret to good espresso is either having a really good burr grinder (also expensive) or having access to really fresh and high-quality pre-ground ... like from a local coffee shop or even from a company like Illy.Last edited by MBMorgan; December 6, 2021, 12:21 PM.
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Yes, I have an Expobar Brewtus 2 that I upgraded to a rotary pump. It wa sold by Whole Latte Love. Way above OP’s desired price range though. We have a dedicated cabinet for what my wife refers to as my "coffee altar". We even plumbed in a filtered water supply with a quarter turn valve that we can use to fill any of our coffee making devices.
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We have this one and have been very happy with it. Had it for about 8 months i think and havent had any problems. I think you could probably find something cheaper that is just as, or close to, as good but mentioned above, make sure it has a burr grinder if you dont have a separate one.
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When I make that recipe*, I go to Starbucks and ask for a shot of espresso to go. It's a lot less expensive than buying an espresso maker if you're not going to use it very much, and it makes really good sauce. That slightly burnt flavor that Starbucks has with all of its coffees actually works well for the sauce.
I know you're "considering" that, but I get the feeling that MCS is whispering in your ear and you could go for a good cup of espresso now and again.
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*it's a wonderful recipe, BTW.Last edited by fzxdoc; December 6, 2021, 01:05 PM.
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Originally posted by fzxdoc View PostWhen I make that recipe*, I go to Starbucks and ask for a shot of espresso to go. It's a lot less expensive than buying an espresso maker if you're not going to use it very much.
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In our house we had a dual pour espresso maker for a number of years. It worked great, made good coffee. It was however kind of messy from grind to clean-up. When it died we replaced it with a Nespresso brand espresso maker.
https://www.nespresso.com/us/en/orig...offee-machines
At first I thought it would kind of suck always having to buy their pods. But they keep coming out with new coffees all the time and I can’t remember tasting a bad one. No complaints and never looked back.
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There are a few others out there that I liked as well, but this one is perfect for my use. I also have a Cuisinart burr coffee grinder that I use to grind beans every morning. You can get the units that have all of it in one unit, but I didn’t want that. I already had the grinder, so went this way.
Have fun finding one! You will enjoy that fresh espresso!!Last edited by barelfly; December 6, 2021, 01:33 PM.
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This machine is on sale and is a staff pick at Seattle Coffee Gear:
https://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/br...presso-machine
Or a Moka pot. Sometimes (somewhat misleadingly) called stovetop espresso makers, Moka pots are similar to espresso makers in that they rely on pressure and deliver rich, strong coffee minus the ultra-fine foam or crema.
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The Silvia is a great entry level machine. One of my buddies loves his.Last edited by Old Glory; December 6, 2021, 05:18 PM.
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I recently got a Flair lever espresso maker. I haven’t had a chance to try it out yet but it was appealing to me not taking up counter space and the trade off in fussiness in getting it ready to make a shot versus the upkeep on a stand alone espresso machine.
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I know you said $500 ..... BUT here's something to ponder. How much coffee outside the house do you purchase regularly? That is, do you often go to a coffee shop or coffee stand and spend $5 (or more) on an espresso based coffee drink? If the answer is yes, then consider buying a high end coffee maker.
I have a Jura and it has easily paid for itself. My wife and I both have Americano's (and she sometimes has mochas) every single morning. I used to buy mine at a coffee stand for $3-4. Which is $20+ per week. Now, I make it myself. The cost of my coffee maker plus good coffee was paid off in 2 years. I've had this one for 4 years, and another Jura before that for about 10 years.
Just something to consider.
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I use one of these almost daily. It’s probably the closest thing to true espresso without a fancy machine.
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Draznnl I'll second the percolator style espresso maker (technically a "mocha pot") that SierraBBQGuy gave a link to above - you can find them in stores too, with prices ranging from $15 to $30 on average.
If you don't own a coffee grinder and want espresso, get a can of Cafe Bustelo, which is a Cuban espresso ground coffee. I have an espresso machine, but don't drink it much anymore, and keep a can of that in the pantry for my 24 year old daughter, who busts out the Delonghi pump espresso maker every time she is here hanging out.
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I do recommend grinding your beans tho
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Agreed SierraBBQGuy. I normally do, but had quit buying dark roast for making espresso, and didn't want beans sitting around too long when only the daughter was using the machine...
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