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  • Top | #1

    Griddle on the Kettle

    I don't want an additional griddle grill, like Blackstone simply don't have the space, i'm in Switzerland ;-) What i am looking for is an add-on to either my 22" or 26" Weber Kettle and still have a similar cooking experience like with for example the Blackstone.

    i have been using the Drip ‘N Griddle Pan of SnS and the biggest Lodge Logic Iron Griddle, which both are great, but with, for what i am looking for, not enough griddle space.

    I have been looking at the Littlegriddle products https://www.littlegriddle.com and also at the Mojoegriddle http://www.mojoegriddle.com. The Arteflame insert for the Weber https://arteflame.com/collections/gr...-grill-inserts mentioned in others threads, looks great and seems like also a good option. But i don't see me cooking for example fried rice on it, since the griddle space is reduced by the fire hole in the middle. I don't see it as that practical like cooking with a Blackstone?


    Looking forward to suggestions, pointers, experiences.

  • Top | #2
    https://www.stokgrills.com/products/...griddle-insert

    ive read good things about this if you are cool with cast iron. Never used it myself though

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    • grantgallagher
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      You can get through home depot and some other places. Just google it. Not sure about shipping to switzerland

      jfmorris chenrici
      Last edited by grantgallagher; March 14th, 2019, 07:43 AM.

    • jfmorris
      jfmorris commented
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      Yep grantgallagher I just found it for $77 on Home Depot's website. That is not bad at all actually. I may get one of those at some point. That said, I prefer gridding on my gas grill, as it's easier to get setup and at a specific temperature compared to a charcoal kettle for that type cook.

    • chenrici
      chenrici commented
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      It looks like those could do the job, but unfortunately for me , no shipping to switzerland grantgallagher

  • Top | #3
    I also recommend checking out the weber forums because if there are options or solutions then they will probably be posted there.

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    • Top | #4
      The Arteflame has an insert grate for the donut hole in the middle. Granted, that insert is a grate - it has holes - but it does do a good job of preventing odds and ends from falling through. I have the Arteflame for my 26. You can fit a lot of stuff on it.

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      • chenrici
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        How cool is that, really looks great. The Arteflame is high in my list .... Have you ever done something like fried rice? Did that work? I just saw, they have a Foodsaver: https://arteflame.com/collections/ac...ame-food-saver. That should do the Job probably...ahhh just saw that this is not for inserts
        Last edited by chenrici; March 14th, 2019, 07:48 AM.

      • jfmorris
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        How messy does your kettle get when cooking stuff like that on the Arteflame? Does the grease just end up in the ash catch under the kettle?

      • JeffJ
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        jfmorris when I'm done cooking I push the grease onto the fire. Easy peasy.

    • Top | #5
      I like to use my 14" Lodge Baking pan. This is great for anything on a kettle or kamado. It is really heavy and retains heat very well.
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      • Spinaker
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        It most certainly does! castironchris

      • chenrici
        chenrici commented
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        I think , that‘s in the end what i will be going for. Any thoughts this veraus Lodge 15 Inch Carbon Steel Skillet? https://shop.lodgemfg.com/seasoned-s...el-skillet.asp. Seems also quite convinient? Spinaker

      • Spinaker
        Spinaker commented
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        Both of them will work fine but the cast-iron skillet will retain heat better. Carbon steel can also warp fairly easily under high heat. chenrici

    • Top | #6
      I imagine any griddle type insert for the round kettles will either need to have a hole in the center, like the Arteflame inserts, or an opening around the outside perimeter, like that Stok griddle (which is apparently not for sale anywhere). Otherwise, you have no air flow, and the fire will be snuffed out.

      Like you, I've used the Drip 'N Griddle, and you could probably fit 2 of those on a kettle, but the draw back of the Drip 'N Griddle is that it has no grease management, or even a way for the grease to drip off into the kettle and drain to the ash catch, and like a frying pan, grease keeps getting deeper and deeper in the Drip 'N Griddle. I did smash burgers on it once, and only the first batch came out properly, as there was too much pooled grease on the second round of burgers.

      What I have used on my gas grill and my kettle for griddling stuff like burgers and bacon is a set of Grillgrates, with the flat side up. It works great. That said, it would not work for things like eggs or pancakes, or anything runny, due to the holes. It would work for about anything else though, and the grill grates for the 22.5" kettle give you full useable space for grilling things like chicken, burgers and chops, without losing space to a 2 zone setup.

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      • gcdmd
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        Maybe a combination of the flipped grill grates and a grill mat would work.

      • chenrici
        chenrici commented
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        Exactly my experience with Drip 'N Griddle too. Grillgates, yes, but exactly, i would love do eggs , rice etc on the Griddle.. jfmorris
        Last edited by chenrici; March 14th, 2019, 07:58 AM.

    • Top | #7
      What about a couple of these? They could be tossed down on a set of Grillgrates, or on the original grate. Granted, it is not round, but rectangular, so you would have to measure to see what would fit the diameter of the kettle.

      https://www.grillgrate.com/the-griddle/

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      • chenrici
        chenrici commented
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        Cool, that seems also like a very good option, even more cost effective then the Lodge Baking Pan. On a 26" Kettle there should be plenty room. I wonder though how the grease management would be with those?

      • jfmorris
        jfmorris commented
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        chenrici there would be no grease management using the griddle plates - it would run off the edges, and ultimately, end up in the ash pan at the bottom of the kettle. If cooking food like chicken or pork, with lots of fat, that is where it ends up anyway, unless you have it all over a drip pan. I use the Grillgrates on my kettle all the time, and what grease does not vaporize drips through the holes, and it doesn't seem to be a big problem for me.

      • jfmorris
        jfmorris commented
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        Drum cookers hang the food over the charcoal basket and it drips down and vaporizes on the coals. So I don't think grease would be a huge issue, but cannot confirm that.

    • Top | #8
      I wonder if there are any experiences / thoughts on Littlegriddle https://www.littlegriddle.com and also at the Mojoegriddle http://www.mojoegriddle.com?

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      • Top | #9
        Originally posted by chenrici View Post
        I wonder if there are any experiences / thoughts on Littlegriddle https://www.littlegriddle.com and also at the Mojoegriddle http://www.mojoegriddle.com?
        I am pretty sure I've seen the Littlegriddle discussed here before. I like it for gas grills at least, as it does add a grease catch. Once it fills up though, you need to soak it up with some paper towels or something to empty it during use I imagine.

        This model looks great for use on a kettle:

        https://www.littlegriddle.com/collec...el-bbq-griddle

        The Mojoe looks intriguing, but I could not use it on my Weber Performer, as it has no grease management. All the grease from cooking would be running off the edges, onto your cart, or onto the ground. It would be fine on a standalone kettle out in the yard, but I would not want grease spilling over the edges onto a deck or patio, staining everything.
        Last edited by jfmorris; March 14th, 2019, 10:49 AM.

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        • jfmorris
          jfmorris commented
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          Argh. chenrici why did you ask about Little Griddle! Now I see that the Professional Full Size model would fit my gas grill, and it is added to the list of things I want...

        • chenrici
          chenrici commented
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          Great input! the point with the grease management of the Mojoe is a good one. Yep mine are a standalone Weber Kettles standing on a gravel soil, so that could work. And the Little Griddle Full Size maybe could even fit on my 26" Really helpful, jfmorris.... when albeit with remorse, haha ;-) ....
          Last edited by chenrici; March 14th, 2019, 11:05 AM.

      • Top | #10
        If you have a picnic table outside, you could get the table top black stone and use it when you do fried rice or eggs. Does mean you need a bit more storage space though.

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        • chenrici
          chenrici commented
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          Yep, bringing the Blackstone back into the game. Must be a great griddle in which variant whatever... hmmm got me thinking, maybe there is still some room in the garden. Initially i wanted to stick with what i am using in terms of fuel: charcoal and wood. jgreen

      • Top | #11
        I've seen these on YouTube videos, stainless steel and won't warp. Don't know about shipping to Switzerland.
        https://www.cast-iron-grate.com/ballisticgriddle.html

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        • Top | #12
          You could do fried rice on the Arteflame insert.

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          I might opt for a cast iron wok instead.

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          • Attjack
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            I always go for both!

          • chenrici
            chenrici commented
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            I could be even running both , the iron cast wok , could be used on top of the grate of the arteflame

          • Attjack
            Attjack commented
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            I like your plan.

        • Top | #13
          https://shop.bakingsteel.com/collections/griddles

          another option.

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          • Top | #14
            Just saw in an other thread and adding here for completeness. Could this be a good griddle: https://www.amazon.com/Skyflame-Stai...Kettle-Cooktop. Although looks very similar to the Arteflame griddle, cheaper and probably less quality

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            • Top | #15
              Huh. I use the DNG. I put on some gloves and drain the grease into a can. Two of them should fit.

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