de Buyer handle question

[Richard Chrz]

I’m specifically looking at the Country fry pan with 2 stainless handles, and the Oval roaster again with 2 stainless handles. (Future purchases)

Their website says oven safe, but can not find anything on temp. A quick ask the internet said very limited, and possibly there may be epoxy over the handles, yet, says pans with stainless steel handles can be in. I don’t know what that means, like can it really be in the oven at 500, or no? Not that I plan on keeping it there at 500. But I generally like to have the option if wanting… is only the stainless on the pro pans truly oven safe?

I would want at least 500.

Thank you in advance.

[ecowper]

Are you buying the Mineral B Pro line? If so, then the answer is that the handles are oven safe stainless steel. The internet claims 500F because Williams Sonoma said that number. The real number? Well … Carbon Steel itself is safe to 1200F. And good stainless steel, like 304 (which is common for cookware) can get to 1700F before you start to have problems.

Edit: The Mineral B Country Fry Pan with two handles has stainless steel handles. Same for the Oval Roasting Pan. At least, as far as I can find out. Maybe ask De Buyer directly on those two items.

SOOOOO …. The truth is that De Buyer’s Mineral B Pro line can get to 1200F before you start to see any issues …. Since the typical oven can’t do over 500F and the typical backyard grill can’t get over 900F with grill grates, you are completely safe.

[Richard Chrz]

Here is the pan specifically https://www.debuyer-usa.com/products...32311104241796

[ecowper]

It says in the “About this product” section that the handles are stainless steel

[Richard Chrz]

That’s what I read too, just the internet search said only the Pro line, that is why I was confused, because to me this looks completely like just stainless handles no coating.

Thank you for confirming what I thought I understood.

I think the 12.5 country skillet with handles will be arriving in the new year.

[texastweeter]

here is what I found for you brother:

The de Buyer Mineral B Carbon Steel Country Fry Pan is oven safe for up to 10 minutes at a temperature of 400°F (200°C). Prolonged exposure to higher temperatures may damage the epoxy coating on the handle.

[Michael_in_TX]

What would an epoxy coating even do? Ease of cleaning? Scratch-resistance? Smoothness? None of those make sense.

[surfdog]

Michael_in_TX It looks pretty. Yeah, beyond that I’ve got nothing. Seems a silly idea to me.

De Buyer compound the confusion with almost identical names: Mineral B & Mineral B Pro. Maybe they should simply drop the “Mineral B” on one line and just call it the Pro Line.

IDK but it burned me on my first De Buyer purchase. At the time, I had NO idea that there were two similarly named product lines. It cooks great but is a little more limited. Added the Pro to have more versatility.

[ecowper]

Michael_in_TX I believe the epoxy handle is intended to be more comfortable in the frying pans. Notice that other pans in that Mineral B line don’t have the epoxy handle, only the frying pans.

[Donw]

I went to the site and searched for oven safe cookware and it listed this one as oven safe:

https://www.debuyer-usa.com/products/mineral-b-oval-roasting-pan?variant=32311104241796

[Richard Chrz]

I had seen the oven safe part, but oven safe to 400 or 500?

I sent them a message on their website, I look forward to their reply Monday, they really do not do a good job of identifying this anywhere. As some absolutely have a temp on them, I’ll definitely share their response. I’m feeling like it will be the 500 plus, but not willing to take a chance on a purchase like this.

[Carolyn]

The long handled fry pans that don't have stainless steel are not oven safe for very long.

In the FAQ section: Only the Mineral B pans that feature a cast stainless steel handle are considered oven-safe: Mineral B PRO Fry Pan, Mineral B PRO Country Fry Pan, Mineral B Country Fry Pan with 2 handles, Mineral B Paella Pan, Mineral B Griddle, Mineral B Oval Roasting Pan. All our Mineral B fry pans can resist up to 10 minutes at 400F.

I was curious too because I have been looking at these pans, and I don't like websites that don't have specifics like temperature, so I sent them an e-mail asking what the temperature limit is on the carbon steel with stainless handles.

[texastweeter]

Are you going with carbon steel over black iron due to weight?.

[texastweeter]

Have you looked into the lodge carbon steel pans?

[texastweeter]

https://www.lodgecastiron.com/products/carbon-steel-pan

[Richard Chrz]

texastweeter I have the lodge 15 inch paella, I use the hell out of that thing.

I love my 15, and use it on the weber with both wood and coal fires, like right on it, also oven, stove top, but it is too big for my indoor electric stove top, and I’m really not in love with a carbon steel wok on electric stove top, and the 14.2 pan in carbon by Mauviel is like 26 inches long with handle, that’s too big,

I’m starting to move back to cast iron for this purchase.

[Richard Chrz]

Answer directly from de-Buyer…



This specific model has an epoxy-coated steel handle, which is why the product page lists:
“Oven Flash Use Only – Maximum 400°F for less than 10 minutes.”

….

[Richard Chrz]

Only the Pro pans with a single stainless handle on fry pans are actually oven safe beyond 400, their oval roasters etc, do have an epoxy over top the stainless handles.

[texastweeter]

What's the name of this game again... OH YEAH I was right, lol.

[Richard Chrz]

texastweeter that is all I could find as well. I’m glad I questioned if,

[Carolyn]

Richard Chrz de Buyer wrote back.

Thank you for reaching out! Our carbon steel pans with stainless steel handles (such as the Mineral B Pro model) are oven-safe up to about 500 °F (260 °C). This makes them great for searing on the stovetop and finishing in the oven. Let me know if you need guidance on a specific size or use case!

So, I am guessing as long as you keep it in the oven at 500 or less and not on a grill at higher temps, your warranty won't be voided.
It would be nice if they had put that in the 'about this product' subsection like they do with the epoxy handles where it states for 'oven flash use only - 400 degrees.'

[Michael_in_TX]

(Is it just me or does that sound like that reply came from an AI/LLM engine? That last sentence, especially.)

[Carolyn]

You know what. Looking at the description more closely. It doesn't state that the roasting pan has stainless handles. I was looking at the shiny handles and made that assumption.
I wonder why it doesn't state for flash use only like the frying pans do.

I wrote back and pointed out that it doesn't state for flash use on the site. Maybe they will correct that.

[Richard Chrz]

The Mauviel carbon steel pans I;ve purchased by the way, 680 degrees.

[Richard Chrz]

For transparency, here is their entire response, by the way, I asked Friday, they did not answer until they opened back up on Monday, which tells me at minimum, they waited for a human to respond.

note the, including the 0val roaster… I mean this is their own words on their roaster.. “• Not recommended: Long roasting or baking sessions” - literally why call it a roaster?

p.s. the 2 pans I questioned, both listed stainless handles on the website, but 500 in an oven truly only represents the pro series with a single stainless handle. I’m so glad I did not order. I would have likely loved the pans, I would been so disappointed in myself, having to still purchase the pan I was looking for , I’m sure they have their reasons, but a roaster that can not go beyond 400 seems pointless to how I cook at least, I’m just hard on things.

“Hi Richard,

Great question — I’m happy to clarify the oven capabilities of this pan for you.
This specific model has an epoxy-coated steel handle, which is why the product page lists:
“Oven Flash Use Only – Maximum 400°F for less than 10 minutes.”

Here’s what that means:
• The pan body (99% iron, 1% carbon) is fully oven-safe and extremely heat tolerant.
• The handle, however, has an epoxy coating, and that is what limits oven use.
• High oven heat for long periods can cause the epoxy coating to discolor or degrade.

So practical use looks like this:
• Safe: Searing on the stovetop and finishing in the oven for a few minutes
• Safe: Brief flash cooking at ≤ 400°F (under 10 minutes)
• Not recommended: Long roasting or baking sessions
• Not recommended: Temperatures above 400°F

This guidance is the same for all de Buyer pans and roasters using the same epoxy-coated handle construction(including the oval roaster you mentioned).

Please let me know if you have any additional questions or if there is anything else we can assist you with.


Best regards,

Marisa
The Customer Service Team
La Brigade de Buyer, Inc.“

[Richard Chrz]

I’d like to add, I’m not speaking bad about de Buyer, I’m just looking for certain things with this purchase, and the pan I’m looking for will have to be able to stand up to maybe 15 - 20 minutes under high broil,

I’m truly probably moving back to cast iron for this particular pan purchase, buy the right tool, right?

[Carolyn]

Marisa was also my chat-bot.
I am not functioning at 100% thanks to lack of sleep. I had asked for clarification because I was confused about a stainless handles. The country fry pan and the roaster both have stainless handles, and there is nothing in the description that states flash only for those two products.
I am so tired, I wrote several e-mails in a row. I probably apologized to a software program. 🙄😆

[Richard Chrz]

I’d like to point out the obvious. If a company cares so very little about your questions, ……

[yakima]

The obvious solution is to get the pan you want, cut off the handle, and use vice grips to move it around.

[Richard Chrz]

How about I just buy a pan I want from a company that does offer it? Seems a bit more practical…

[yakima]

This is the wrong group if you want practical.