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    #16
    @RAYMBO I read your post and haven't a clue. However, thank you for your efforts on all fronts. As a proud muggle I appreciate your expertise and care.

    Thank you!

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      #17
      Originally posted by Donw View Post
      raywjohnson Boy do I identify with your last post.....
      Learned Apple basic on Apple IIe in high school. Never learn Assembly. Never had time. First computer was a VIC20. Yep. Spend the day manually entering (and debugging) 5000 lines of basic to play a simple game, power off. Code gone. Until I got my first tape drive (for those not in the know, it was an actual magnetic music cassette tap reader/writer).

      I dabbled in C, C++, PASCAL, Objective C, and so many others (ever here of REBOL?). Also MS Visual Basic (my shame). But Delphi... oh the sweet joy. I waded through the books and, at some point, coding clicked on. I understood it so well now. I was very sad when they stopped developing it.

      Yes, documentation always seems to be a problem. Linux (and all unix based os') have man pages (manual pages). You type "man + command" so man ls (ls = list directory contents), and you get the manual. See the web based version: https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/ls.1.html -- this is what you see on the terminal. Most of them never even have example usage.

      AI... that is a whole other chapter..

      VIC20 Cassette tape for saving programs. Pre-floppy disk. You hit record, then typed the save command, then waited for the system to report the save was complete, then you hit stop. To load was the reverse, type load command, hit play, wait for load to complete, hit stop. You had to keep track of the counter to know where on the tape your program was stored. Fun times...

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      • Sweaty Paul
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        The VIC20 was my first computer too with the tape drive. At school we had the Apple IIe as well.

      #18
      Uhhhh, gee, Tennessee. Computers confound me.
      Thank you for your hard work.

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      • CaptainMike
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        That's right, Chumley!

      #19
      heh-heh. Your avatar reminds of the gif "the kids" back in the early internet days made for me, battling Freeloaders who tried to use our web service to hide hacked music files.

      You do awesome work Ray!

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