AmazingRibs could become even more valuable that it already is (the AI slop is getting worse....)

[Michael_in_TX]

I think it is getting worse out there. Maybe it was just the type of recipe for which I was searching (Creamy Italian Wedding Soup, of all things), but the number of AI-generated recipes was just unnerving.

Now, I'm not anti-Large Language Models (what they really should be called) and I use them myself, but I know or at least try to know their limitations.

Here's some of the tells that I ran across today:

• Strange repetition of things, especially in descriptions or history of a recipe.
• The "backstory" goes on way too long and is overly "conversational" in tone. Yes, I know the joke about recipe authors wanting to give their entire grandmother's backstory, but some of these AI-written things get ridiculous.
• The picture does not match the recipe. It's usually not overt, but if the photo has potatoes and potatoes aren't mentioned in the text, be wary.
• And here is a key tell: ingredients are abandoned midway through. You're told to prep them, perhaps even cook them, but they never find their way back into the finished dish. Or, conversely, a new ingredient appears out of no where.

Now, some of these things could just be (really) lazy editing or bad copy and pasting from another site, but holistically you get this nagging feeling of that this recipe was not written by a human.

It is infuriating that (perhaps well-intentioned?) people can have a LLM engine put together a fairly extensive and attractive recipe website that is nothing but AI slop. It makes me think that curated sites, such as AmazingRibs, really might become more valuable than they already are to us home cooks.

To be sure, with thousands of recipes here on this site there certainly are errors, most minor to insignificant, of course With so many there just have to be, but at least I know they weren't cobbled together by an unthinking stochastic parrot!

[yakima]

UTP. Unthinking stochastic parrot. Almost qualifies as a new cuss word.

Was just complaining today to a retired newspaper editor that editing is really slipping. Was reading a news article; the word should have been flagrant but was printed fragrant. He said papers used to have proofreaders. Not anymore.

Spatchcock all stochastic parrots!

[DaveD]

Now that is a band name waiting to happen: The Stochastic Parrots.

[Mosca]

I was looking for something with chicken soup in it yesterday, and I found a recipe that had left chicken out of the list of ingredients… but it wasn’t an AI recipe! I added a comment, and today the author corrected me an added a thanks!

[Carolyn]

Sometimes I find an article that is nothing but a word salad.

[Jerod Broussard]

On making salad?

[Potkettleblack]

I always think back to that old PSA where the dad catches his son doing drugs, and the kid yells back, “I learned it from watching you, Dad!”

All the things you mentioned were common on recipe blogs back when ChatGPT was an itch on some grad student’s pocket protector. Worse that regular recipe bloggers were diet recipe bloggers. Combining the evils of recipe blogging with the evils of disability blogging, diet blogging, political blogging and religious blogging.

The Large Learning Language models had such shining examples to learn from, Vegan bloggers, Keto bloggers, Paleo, Mommy recipes, low fat, whole30, air fryer, sous vide, Instapot, and so on. And just regular bad writers who thought they should chronicle their kitchen creations.

garbage in, garbage out.

no wonder Ultron spent five minutes on the internet and decided humanity needed an extinction level event.

[Michael_in_TX]

You are right......in the early 2000s, we had the explosion of those fad diets, starting with South Beach that leapt out of the shadow of Atkins. There were a lot of terrible recipes back then.

I remember one of our nutrition grad students basically concluded is that some of the recipes were actual recipes, just with the "offending" ingredient curtailed or removed entirely.

[smokenoob]

no surprise, artificial intelligence and artificial ingredients are derived from the same acronym 🥴 …both leave a bad taste

[yakima]

Don't forget artificial insemination!

[Meathead]

I can state definitively that not one recipe on the free part of AmazingRibs.com or anything else has been written by AI. Zero, zilch, nada. Perhaps some members use it, but nobody on our team does.

[HouseHomey]

Not a chance AI wrote that Alabama White Sauce!!

[Michael_in_TX]

A few days ago when I was experimenting with pizza dough, I asked ChatGPT to give me several recipes for several variates of dough. I think it gave me four, but the third one was......python code, like what you'd write a computer script with. Oddest thing ever.

[bbqLuv]

AI may not be so bad.


how many ways are there to cook Pork Ribs

Pork ribs can be cooked in a variety of delicious ways! Here are some popular methods:

1. Grilling: Ideal for that smoky flavor. Cook over indirect heat for 1.5-2 hours, then finish over direct heat for a crispy exterior.
2. Smoking: The classic low-and-slow method. Smoke at 225°F (107°C) for 4-6 hours with wood chips.
3. Oven-Baking: Wrap ribs in foil and bake at 300°F (150°C) for 2.5-3 hours, then uncover for the last 30 minutes to get a nice crust.
4. Slow-Cooking: Place ribs in a slow cooker with sauce and cook on low for 6-8 hours.
5. Pressure Cooking: For quick and tender ribs. Cook under high pressure for about 25 minutes.
6. Broiling: A quick method for a charred finish. Broil on high for 10-15 minutes, flipping halfway through.
7. Sous Vide: For precise, even cooking. Cook in a water bath at 165°F (74°C) for 12-24 hours, then sear or broil to finish.
8. Steaming: A less common method that keeps the ribs moist. Steam for about 1.5-2 hours.
9. Pan-Frying: For a crispy exterior. Sear ribs in a hot pan for about 5-7 minutes on each side.
10. Braised: Slow cook in a flavorful liquid in the oven or stovetop for 2-3 hours until tender.

Each method offers a unique texture and flavor profile, so you can experiment to find your favorite! 🍖

Which method sounds the most appealing to you?

[bbqLuv]

HouseHomey I used to bring ribs to a slow boil in beer, then to a gasser. lol
Amazing ribs and Traeger broke me of that process.

[Potkettleblack]

Cooking to time. Classic AI mistake. /sarc

[bbqLuv]

Potkettleblack
Cooking to time because people ask, "How long will it take?", or "When will it be done?".

It is best to ask: how long to temperature, or when will it be at temperature?