1ST Brisket- Green Mountain Grills David Bowie

[Ricorocks]

Did my first little brisket today on GMG DB. More on 1st brisket, after dinner.

The GMG DB blows IMO long periods of "NO Smoke" temps 185 - 225 best smoke temps! Also, controller temp, find the inside grill 20 - 30 degrees less than controller set point.

No smoke & terrible temp control.
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What pellet smoker has the most smoke, or best smoke profile.

I'm having choice problems (decisions) replacing

MAK 1
P&S Maverick 850
Rec-Tec 700 Bull
Grilla Silverback with max smoke option
Yoder

Memphis is to much $$$$
Camp Chef, research

[Mr. Bones]

Sorry fer yer difficulties, amigo!
I'l leave th pellet cooker choice options to them, what's qualified to answer ya...

We gotta whole lotta talented, experienced pellet cooks, hereabouts...

[MBMorgan]

No pellet smoker is going to give you really good smoke above about 275F. The original Grilla (the round one that looks like R2D2 wearing a Darth Vader disguise) is reputed to have one of the better smoke profiles among pellet poopers. I’ve had one for six months or so and am very satisfied with the results.

[lostclusters]

What MBMorgan said IS true, even on a Mak. The mak's set point for the "smoke" setting is 175 - 190.

[DogFaced PonySoldier]

The thing is... everyone's idea of "perfect" smoke profile is different. So, it's difficult to state any kind of absolutes with this stuff.

[ItsAllGoneToTheDogs]

MBMorgan I'm not calling you a liar, no one has used everything out there though. I think what tRidiot said is better than how I presented it... I get very good smoke production above 275, that's a fact. Is it quality smoke? I dunno, to me it is. From what I researched prior to my purchase there are a small handful of pellet smokers that produce good smoke up to and over 300. Yes, the best smoke production is below 250 on all the brands.

[jacmac422]

The GMG (I own one) give you the ability to change the set temp to match your thermometer. As far as smoke output, I would say that is true of most all pellet smoker. Try a smoke tube.

[Ricorocks]

I guys, I'm aware 225 & below better smoking. GMG DB at say 200F produce zero smoke for 50 min & 10 min of smoke, in an hour. Under warranty changed out many parts, per support.

I have two smoke tubes awesome, & great for smoking cheese

MBMorgan the Grilla silverback has an optional xtra price, more smoke feature. Intriguing!

[MBMorgan]

MBMorgan the Grilla silverback has an optional xtra price, more smoke feature. Intriguing!

Actually, they just released their new control panel. It has two modes of operation: "Pro" is their original mode. It allows the temperature to fluctuate a bit in order to generate more smoke. "Alpha" is the new PID mode that holds temperature very steady. The higher priced SilverBac has the dual mode panel. The lower priced one has the original "Pro" only panel.

Remember, "Pro" mode is the smokier of the two.

[treesmacker]

Hmmm... I wonder if I manually fluctuate the temperature, via wifi while sitting in my recliner, will have the "pro" mode effect?

[MBMorgan]

treesmacker - Can’t hurt to try. In the Grilla the temp swing is about +- 10 deg.

[Johnny Big Time]

I have a Camp Chef smoke pro DLX and it was a waste of $560. That's what I get for being a noob and not doing enough research. If I try to sell it, I'll lose my shirt, so gonna keep it and order a set of grillgrates and see what it'll do with hot n fast stuff.

[Johnny Big Time]

I used a smoke tube and put wood chips in it and still no joy. If you're saying the grillgrates are no help, then maybe I'll start saving for a PK 360.

[ItsAllGoneToTheDogs]

Grill grates are good, but if the grill doesn't get hot well you're probably better off using another heat source and say the pellet cost savings paid for it lol.

[Johnny Big Time]

At full throttle, the grates hit 440 degrees. Grillgrates on top of that should then get up to 540 or so is how I understand it. I think I'll order them and see. Worse case is I'll get a charcoal grill and just use the Grillgrates on it.

[Sweaty Paul]

Having had a GMG I switched to a Yoder and have no regrets. I love my Yoder. It’s a fabulous smoker with tight temp controls. It gives off more than enough smoke in my opinion and f you want more smoke you could use an Amaz-N Smoke Tube. I think the Hickory pellets from BBQ Delight give enough smoke though.

[Cheef]

Still trying to feel the pellet love after 4 years with my Memphis Pro. Nope--not there and I doubt it ever will be. It is a nice oven though.

[rwalters]

Well, I can tell you this... several years ago I had a back patio full of kamados, a stick burner and a Weber gasser. A buddy of mine decided to sell his first generation MAK 1 Star. I decided to buy it and give it a whirl. I had heard so much positive talk about the MAK lineup, but honestly, I didn’t have high expectations. Boy was I wrong. That ole MAK won me over big time! I now have a MAK 2 Star and it is by far and away my favorite cooker... probably the overall favorite cooker that I have ever owned in fact

[rwalters]

Great question! Based on my experience and the opinions of family and those we have over when entertaining, I wouldn't say that the MAK produces a "better" end product than a stick burner, but I would say that I am equally as satisfied with the end product...

[rwalters]

I would say that in a blind taste test, if I were to run a stick burner with an extremely clean fire from start to finish, and run my MAK with a quality pellet, that the majority of taste testers would have a hard time discerning a difference. Both cookers are very capable of laying down a very clean and pleasant smoke profile...

[rwalters]

I will add, since acquiring my first MAK a few years ago, I have received more compliments from the food that I produce on the MAK's than any other cooker I have ever owned... and I have a few brutally honest people that I cook for

[Ricorocks]

Johnny Big Time - Sorry to hear that, about Camp Chef, "platinum" pellet pooper here.
@ Sweaty Paul What's that big elevated, length run of Yoder, behind lid?

@ MBMorgan - so at smoking temps, it used Pro mode, the higher temp, it auto changes to PID mode. Would that varying temp at smoking temps, cause huffing & puffing, & smoke no smoke, like sending smoke signals?

rwalters - Seems allot of vendors, are out of stock MAK 1 & 2. Perhaps the 2019 model is on it's way.

RecTec & P&S Fans?

[rwalters]

The 2019 MAK's will be rolling off the production line and available as soon as this week, but no later than 4/15. I asked MAK last week and that was the official word.

[Potkettleblack]

The "Pro" mode (aka Original mode) varies the temp +/- 10* (or more) to go smoke signals. I have the poor luck of always checking during a smoke puff.

[MBMorgan]

@ MBMorgan - so at smoking temps, it used Pro mode, the higher temp, it auto changes to PID mode. Would that varying temp at smoking temps, cause huffing & puffing, & smoke no smoke, like sending smoke signals?

To my knowledge, the new controller does not "auto switch". You have to press a button on the panel to toggle between Pro and Alpha (PID) modes. There is no huffing & puffing in "Pro" mode (no smoke signals). It's more subtle than that.

If you go to the Grilla Grills website, there are a bunch of videos that do a good job of explaining how their smokers work. You can also just give them a call. They seem to welcome opportunities to chat about their products.

[Potkettleblack]

I get what he's talking about. There is definitely a Smoke is Generated and a Smoke is Sitting there cycle to the OG.

[Ricorocks]

Will call today!

[Troutman]

I'm so tired of pellet smoker smoke arguments. Once and for all will someone just buy every brand, fire them all up at once with the same pellets, no meat in the cooker to cause grease dipping smoke, and let's just see who has the biggest pellet in their jeans

[bten]

It would be fun to do this with a group of different owners with different grills. Moving my Yoder would be a PIA, so would moving many other brands. If we could get all the vendors together to deliver to the same place for a test run, that would be fun!

[Potkettleblack]

Since taste preference and perception is highly individual, even then, you'd have disagreement.

[bten]

True, and each cut of meat is just a little different.

[Ricorocks]

Hi PKB,

I'm really liking the "Grill Alpha"

[Potkettleblack]

As I understand it, it's very good for holding a steady temp. this seems like it would have advantage at the very low end, like <200, where a swing might get you into burnout territory. The argument for PID at high temps is, for me, silly.

Pellet cookers don't produce smoke much above 350, and it burns pellets a lot faster at higher temps. Plus, my home oven swings more than the Grilla (and yours too), so even for baking... I don't get it.