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    #16
    Got this too! So, it has a lifetime warranty 🤔, so is that like if it kills me before the nonstick wears out it’s then out of warranty? 😂😀😎
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    • Purc
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      Should I even ask about the non stick coating made from PFAS, PFOA or PTFE chemicals or do you just want to enjoy another cocktail ?

    #17
    Purc But it says for “Healthier” cooking!!!
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    • Purc
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      "...Better Things for Better Living..... Through Chemistry..." so the slogan goes.

      I spent almost 30 years working with T-6 and T-66 nylon and other manmade fibers.
      Last edited by Purc; December 6, 2024, 06:41 PM.

    #18
    When we were kids didn't our toothpaste come in lead tubes? What about mercury in our tooth fillings, and I had many. As a. Kid, who didn't play with mercury, it was fascinating. And worst of all the metal jungle gyms 10 feet tall with a cement landing pad after your chin bit every crossbar on the way down. It's 3:30am, where's my drink.

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      #19
      This is a great thread. Bottom line is we cannot do enough to take care of our health. The problem is who can we believe? So at the end of the day if we do something to try and take care of ourselves then that is probably better than nothing.

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        #20
        I am all for studying the issue and finding out if there IS a real problem here. Sounds like that is a possibility (thanks Purc for posting that NEJM article, I wasn't aware of that one), and it is worth investigating, but we need a lot more data.

        Of course, data is only valuable these days when it supports the position one wants to take. I can't tell you how many times I've had people scoff at the decades and decades and decades of real, good, solid data we DO have on some things because they don't WANT to believe it, but that's another topic.

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          #21
          I remember playing with my painted lead soldiers and chewing the paint off of them. Now, outside of weight gain, hair and hearing loss and poor eyesight, those lead based toys didn't affect me at all.

          Mercury was so cool to roll around in my hand while playing with my chemistry set mixing up all types of chemicals during my unsupervised experiments down in the basement of my parent's house. I also drank water from the outside garden hose all summer long. Ah, the good ole days.

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          • Donw
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            And all our cuts and bruises were always treated with Mercurochrome or Merthiolate by our Mom.

          • klflowers
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            And I was scared to get sick cause my mom would give me castor oil

          • captainlee
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            Never had the oil but I knew about it.

          #22
          In the end, for all of us here, do we really need to be worried about any of this stuff?
          Isn’t too much grilled / smoked meat going to be what does us all in?

          Here for a good time, not a long time!! 🍻🔥🥩🥓🎉

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            #23
            Had my coffee and leftover Moo Goo Gai Pan breakfast, so here goes.
            Just because we did something fifty years ago, as kids, and lived to tell, does not mean we should keep doing it. The only thing that happened when I was playing Olga Korbut, and tried leaping from the tree to the swingset, was I got a broken leg, Could have been a broken neck, could have been thrilled it wasn't, but my dad didn't think of it that way. He moved the swingset before we were home from the ER. Maybe a bad example, but one of the great things about making mistakes is the opportunity to learn from them. I'd hate to tell you guys the really awful medical mistakes I've made in my life, but every one taught me a very valuable thing, and many also predicted that standards would be changing (and did) after we all learned.
            So, when I was old enough to see it, I learned how much the environment depended on us. At first, it was just ugly (like teenagers throwing empty beer cans out the car window....) and a pain to clean up, but then I started noticing the disposables, the amount of trash, and tried to cut that back. I admit, I cringe when I see how many people use paper plates at home (no offense) because I rarely use paper towels, even. Only to drain bacon, really.
            I am the only real cook in my generation of my family, so I inherited all that Tupperware from my mom, my aunt, my grandmother. Also the Pyrex, which balances it out! I noticed, esp after the advent of home dishwashers that everything goes into, how sticky the surfaces of said T-ware and other plastics quickly became. I started recycling as they got sticky, and have literally none left, except some canisters that are rarely washed and never heated.
            The plastics exposure issues are a lot harder to prove, scientifically, because there is no backward/retrospective data (IMHO). If you are researching whether, say, a vaccine causes a high level of adverse effects, you can go back in the documentation of people receiving said vax, and see how many developed that effect. It's one of the ways (former)Dr. Wakefield was debunked with his autism from MMR vax link, although it is admittedly harder (even though he lost his license and was run out of traditional medicine) because the internet lives forever, and it doesn't always tell you this has been debunked. In ingesting/cooking in/heating/washing/storing in these plastics, there is no retrospective data. Nobody documented how their entire family got sick months after they reheated the Thanksgiving meal in sticky degrading plastic. Studies like the one in the aforementioned NEJM article are few, thus far, because the data collection takes so long. When we are all dodgy 90yos, or more, or gone, it will likely fall into place, one way or the other. To me, doesn't mean I don't plan ahead, and try to do what I can to usurp any effects it might cause me, in the meantime. I have had enough weird health issues that it is worth it to me to avoid those potentially harmful things if I can. I don't drink raw milk, another soapbox of mine.., I don't eat anything from the fridge that looks, smells or acts funny, and I don't "just try" things I think are suspect. When I was going to work every day, with lunch bag in tow, it was easier to take my lunch in plastic containers just because they were lighter. I gradually changed over to glass/Pyrex, and often various sizes of Mason jars (you can take salad dressing in a little half pint Mason jar pretty easily) and I adapted to the extra pound or so my lunch bag weighed.
            It isn't for everyone. Many don't have the interest or means to make changes (btw, my favorite set of SS spatulas came from the Habitat for Humanity store for about $2 total), but for me, I'm trying.
            Last edited by acorgihouse; December 7, 2024, 08:56 AM.

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              #24
              I use what I got, mainly silicon, wood, or stainless. That said I have 2 of the cheap plastic spatulas. I'm not gonna worry about it too much. I mean I am a model of human health. Built like a Greek god. I think it has something to do with my strict diet of red meat, bourbon, and cigars. What could go wrong?

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              • klflowers
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                I have to stop you there bro. I'll admit that you are impressive, but you take a backseat to my finely honed, years in the making beer belly. Jus saying

              • texastweeter
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                klflowers we're like Apollo and Rocky!

              #25
              Plastic = poison

              Plastic manufacturers, switch back to glass to save our a$$

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