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    Sooooo I bought a used Engelbrecht 1000 http://amazingribs.com/bbq_equipment...eries-original and had it shipped to me (live in Los Angeles) from Arizona.. Excited to have the grill

    However, the previous owner didn't really keep it cleaned and I'm a nerd for a clean grill.. MOST of mine look like they are fresh from the factory..

    Now that's out the way... I wanted to do some deep cleaning and bringing this baby back to good looking.. A friend suggested sandblasting the grate and other inside parts because it was really "gunky". I had the main grate sandblasted and it came back looking pretty grey and I was told all I had to do was season it and start cooking on it again..

    Check out the pics (the gunky inside and the sandblasted grate) ... Should I do the rest inside? Is it ok to cook on once seasoned? I'll take all suggestions on how to bring this thing back up to speed.. I figure sanding down and repainting handles etc. But the wheels and other parts? Where can I find high temp powder coating?

    Sorry for the long thesis but wanted to leave no stone unturned.. Oh and btw... My wife has decided the house will be vegetarian now so... I'm not sure what I'm doing fixing it up.. I thought if I keep one grill, this will be it and the other 9 can go...
    Last edited by Timcee; September 18, 2017, 06:22 PM.

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    for starters I would get rid of the wife!!!. I am not sure what the best way to go would be as I dont know what those are made out of. Can you try seasoning the grate on another grill to see what you think?

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    • Timcee
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      LOL... Man now you're talking my language!! I just have to find the legal way to do it.. Maybe sell a few grills to foot the bill..LOL... Did you see what sandblasting did to the grates and the grillgrates? Turned them super grey.. They feel kinda rough.. I thought about buying another grate from the co but b4 I spend $300 I wanted to try all options..

    #3
    FWIW I use a soda blaster for restores then paint with multiple coats of high temp rustiolium with a HVLP spray gun with great results.

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    • Jon Solberg
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      Nice cooker BTW

    • Timcee
      Timcee commented
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      You're really talking to a serious novice here.. So where can I get that high temp from? I'll look up soda blaster... Is it safer/better than sandblasting? Thanks

    #4
    High temp rustolium is avalible at all big box lumber yards. Home Depot. Lowes. Menards. Find a Harbor Frieght for the soda blaster and HVLP stuff. Yeah soda is much cleaner and easier to deal with than sand.

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    • Histrix
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      For even cleaner use and even easier cleanup use dry ice blasting!

    • Jon Solberg
      Jon Solberg commented
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      Very true but pricey where I live Not something I can do at home compared to soda. Do you do that work Histrix
      Last edited by Jon Solberg; September 18, 2017, 08:17 PM.

    • Timcee
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      Who knew so many ways to blast.. Which will be the most minimal that I can do? Still wondering if the sandblasted grate is fine to season and cook on..

    #5
    Damn that sand. And watch the overspray. Oops.

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    • Jon Solberg
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      Dude it's really hard to take you seriously wearing that hat. ROFLOL. : )

    • Timcee
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      Oversprays? Lost

    #6
    I am not an expert and I have never used a sand blaster. I would pressure wash the inside and the grates. I would then spray the heck with it with cooking oil. For the outside I would pressure wash two to three times and would then put high temp pain on it. I would buy replacements for the casters and wheels. It actually looks like it is in pretty good shape.

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    • Timcee
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      Definitely a project...Pressure wash sounds simple enough... Thanks for the tip

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    Jon Solberg

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    • tbob4
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      You admitted you had six fingers so what are you telling me?! Hahahahaha

    • HouseHomey
      HouseHomey commented
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      Mr. Bones and tbob4

      Bonsey I'm dying in the window!! Feeling good tonight as I have tomorrow off and a spigot on the wine box.

      Beware of the 6th! Ha! You guys rock.
      Above ground pool Jon Solberg lmao!!

    • EdF
      EdF commented
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      Isn't that a Grateful Dead hat?

    #8
    Timcee I apologize for hacking your post. That's a great find! As everyone knows I have zero skills in building repairing or fixing anything. That is a sweet score though. I can't see the issue with the grate although I understand your explanation. Perhaps there are old timers who can help with the wheels. On ranches perhaps doing horse work.? Metal and steel is a "thing" not just a trade.

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    • Timcee
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      Dude.. Don't ever apologize.. It's all fun and love here.. As long as ya drop a tip or 2 fer meh! I love the hat.. Gonna make me find a pic of me in my Dr. Seuss hat behind the grill! Lol

    • HouseHomey
      HouseHomey commented
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      Timcee YES!!!

    #9
    I spent so much time on the cleaning issue I didn't catch the last part. OK - I could share some really funny texts between me and my daughter about her vegetarian decision. My wife thinks we are both nuts. She (wife) says my daughter should be allowed to make up her own mind because every time she comes home she eats all of the meat I cook. She then leaves and decides to change her diet. Keep all of the BBQ's for perfecting vegetables. They may come in handy for turkey in November.

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    • HouseHomey
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      I like my tofu Mid rare pease. And........ never burn my kale! We should smoke it. 😎 Darn those SoCal natives. Do we have a cooker for that? I do not. Buddy,something tells me your turkey is first rate.

    • Timcee
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      Yea.. Did you read that I have 9 other grills? I sold 2, gave away 2 and still left with 10 so um yea as I decide what to do with this decision... Yes HH.. med rare tofu! LOL.. Last year my wife went to a friend's and they had TOFURKEY for their turkey.. Don't even ask... I was hoping this position would never cross my door.. Oh well. She gotta go..lol

    #10
    a lot of times when you sandblast something you will bring it down to it's true color, and that is a dull gray. in addition, sandblasting is a messy messy job and sand comes in all shapes and sizes. you might have a bit of very small sand in the pits of the metal. what i would do is get an air compressor and blast your grates with compressed air to blow away any sand dust that is willing to come out, then season the metal with some good oil. i'm not an expert but i doubt there are a lot of health issues here. someone please correct me if i'm wrong

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    • Timcee
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      Hey DD, yes that's what I was speaking of on the color (see pics above from the grate and grillgrates I had them sandblasted by a pro) but I wanted to know about the rest of the inside of the grill and if all that was left was to season the already sandblasted grate with oil and I'm ready to go...

    #11
    It doesn't look that bad. I think sandblasting is a bit overkill. I'd scrub it down instead. Use a scotch brite type tool, only made for scrubbing metal.

    If you're gonna the sandblast, then a few things may be worth considering:

    1. You need somewhere to be when sandblasting. Either outdoors or a separate room. You're gonna have sand EVERYWHERE (including underwear et.c.)
    2. Using an air compressor is good for getting rid of the last sand, but make sure you use a moisture trap/filter on it. There is always a bit of moisture in the air in the compressor, and you don't want to spray the squeaky clean and completely untreated metal with moist air. It will start to rust before you have the chance to spray a primer on it.
    3. As soon as the metal is clean, start applying a primer to avoid rusting. This is crucial, waiting overnight won't cut it.

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    • Timcee
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      Thanks a lot.. I had the grate sandblasted already from a local (see pic above) so you're saying to that apply primer on it next? Then oil to season it? I had some grill grates sandblasted to see how it would turn out (see pics above again) should I do the same to them?

    • Henrik
      Henrik commented
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      No, I would use oil only on the grates, don't need/want paint on them. Since you let someone else do the sandblasting then things are a lot easier :-)
      I would paint the 'rest', just in case you sandblast them. But make sure you use heat resistant paint, or a two component paint (both can take the heat)

    #12
    For the wheels Spinaker might think this trick would work: https://pitmaster.amazingribs.com/fo...age5?pp=315605 I would be interested in reading what he thinks.

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    • Timcee
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      I wonder if there's an easier way to do the wheels being as though the machine weighs a ton.. I'm thinking as previously stated pressure washing?

    #13
    Originally posted by Timcee View Post
    Sorry for the long thesis but wanted to leave no stone unturned.. Oh and btw... My wife has decided the house will be vegetarian now so... I'm not sure what I'm doing fixing it up.. I thought if I keep one grill, this will be it and the other 9 can go...
    Be happy you are not the house!

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    • Timcee
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      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That's what I'll say.!!

    #14
    Ok, here is my 2 cents, IMO the Grillgrates are ruined as they were hardcoat anodized at the factory and if that coating was blasted off you are now at bare aluminium. The metal bar type grate should be fine and I would get some 3M scoth brite pads from an automotive paint shop to smooth out the rough surface from the course sand that was used to blast and then season with oil. for the inside A good power washer like 2500psi with a rotory turbo tip like this https://www.lowes.com/pd/Blue-Hawk-3...zle/1000065187 works great for stripping gunk off. Sand blasting the grill itself is fine and paint with Rustoleum bbq paint. ps you can check if the finish is stripped off the grillgrates by using an ohm meter on the suface because anodize is non conductive. hope this helps, Dean

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    • tbob4
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      Timcee - I pressure wash the inside of my grills twice a year. The rest of the time I just clean them normally. Right after I wash them I spray/wipe with veggie oil and then light it up. It will not rust. I also actually oil the outside of the BBQ's twice a year and fire them up. No rust. Think about boiling water in a cast iron pan.

    • Timcee
      Timcee commented
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      tbob4 Got it and thanks for that.. Pressure wash tomorrow! Cast iron example made plenty sense

    • Timcee
      Timcee commented
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      Thanks Powersmoke_80 and Spinaker ...I have some extra ones so if GG say I've ruined them or not.. I'll still keep em for extra heat..

    #15
    Timcee - many (if not most) commercial kitchens use bare aluminum skillets/frying pans. They are cheap, lightweight, heat up and cool down quickly, etc., etc.

    An aluminum pan will season just like a cast iron pan simply by using it. Sure, things may stick a bit at first but that will lessen the more you use them.

    If you wanted to start seasoning them you could just heat up your grill to a few hundred degrees, spray the grates with a light coat of Pam or the like, and put them in the grill and let them bake for awhile and then turn the heat off. Give that a go for a few cycles.

    It's a moot point now obviously, but in the future if you ever want to clean something smooth and shiny like stainless steel grates have your sand blasting company use walnut shell blasting media. The walnut shell media won't pit/scratch the stainless and it will stay nice and smooth and shiny.

    If you do contact GrillGrates about your grates please let us know what they say. I'm interested in seeing if they just try to sell you some new grates.
    Last edited by Histrix; September 19, 2017, 09:11 PM.

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    • tbob4
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      I would be interested, too. Powersmoke_80 brought up a great point and one that I would have never thought of.

    • Timcee
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      Thanks so much Histrix .. Is walnut shell like turning a knob for sandblasters? Meaning most would have that as an option? I am definitely contacting GG and will return with a full report.. I guess I should've checked in here first before doing it.. I'll ask and see if he can do the inside of the grill with the walnut.. Thanks for this!!

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