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    Intro and a Question From Georgia

    I am posting this as my introduction. It, however, has a technique question. And I'm wondering if this should be cross posted or posted in another forum.

    My questions revolve around a first timer venturing into Sous Vide and smoking meat.

    In the early 70s, I grew up in southwest Mississippi And Northeast Louisiana. And the old farmer that I work for and help raise me as a young man taught me how to run a clay floor cold smoke house, And since that time I have become a somewhat anal-perfectionist on how I smoke my meat.

    I was lucky when I stumbled into Meathead a couple of years ago. And he ranks very high in my list, Even higher than the two boys here in Georgia, where I now live. That being said, His style and mine vary slightly, As everybody has different taste.

    I am a recently retired airline pilot. And I chose my career because I am a student and a tourist. This has given me the opportunity to taste foods from around the world. And one of my favorites is BBQ. This is one of the areas where Meathead and I disagree. While I believe that coal can be any wood to provide the heat and energy, I use small pieces of a certain type of fresh unburnt wood on top of the coals. When it comes to smoking. I know that pig loves fruit woods such as cherry, peach, pecan, hickory. And a cow is best done over Mesquite.

    Alright, I almost have a complete outdoor kitchen with a Weber Charcoal Kettle Grill, A Blackstone 4 Burner Griddle, A Weber gas grill, And the granddaddy of them all is a 750-gallon Offset smoker that I built out of a thick-walled pressure tank.

    That being said, I am beginning my venture into Sous Vide for the first time. I am planning to try a brisket, ribs, and chicken. Now here is where the anal part kicks in. I have spent the last two to three weeks reading and studying everything I can find about how to Sous Vide and BBQ. And I feel confident at kicking off this venture. My plans are to cook the brisket and other meats in hot water first and then place them on the smoker for a couple of hours.

    I am looking for any tips, advice, or experiences from you professionals. I have read meatheads deep dive into Sous Vide and lots of comments on the forums however I have may have missed something and would certainly appreciate your input.

    Most of all, DO YOU LIKE THIS METHOD as compared to the traditional method of slow smoking?


    Thanks,
    Greg
    Never wrong, but not quite right!

    #2
    Welcome to the Pit from Dallas! I can't help you as i don't do SV, but you will definitely get plenty of answers.

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      #3
      Hello!

      Somewhere around here, if we recall correctly, there is a Pit-exclusive guide to Sous-Vide-Que that may answer some of your questions.

      Someone will likely post a link if so.

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      • ProPilot
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        Thank you, I did read that one "Meatheads deep dive into Sous Vide"

      #4
      Originally posted by WillTravelForFood View Post
      Hello!

      Somewhere around here, if we recall correctly, there is a Pit-exclusive guide to Sous-Vide-Que that may answer some of your questions.

      Someone will likely post a link if so.
      Bah, why wait for others do chime in. Here's the link:

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      • WillTravelForFood
        WillTravelForFood commented
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        ya know, totally missed the "already read Meathead's deep dive" line. No gold star award for this post.

      #5
      Welcome from central Texas! We’re going to have to agree to disagree on mesquite. We are literally covered up with the stuff here. I was raised on a ranch-farm where we raised a lot of beef. We cooked over mesquite because it was what we had and no one had tried anything different. Once mesquite has burned down to coals it is fine for cooking over, but as a wood for smoke flavor it is falling out of favor even in Texas. It is so easy to get a bitter note in your food using mesquite. Pecan and oak are the go to woods for smoke flavor in our area now. As with most things this is just my opinion not chiseled in stone.

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      • ProPilot
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        Disagreement is what discussion is all about... Well I was based in Dallas for along time and been all over the state. My taste buds still love maquite for Beef. I like the hot woodsie taste it brings... I guess cause usns easterners are eat up with hickory and fruit woods, I tend to like mesquite... Funny we like what we cant get!

      #6
      Welcome from the Land of Enchantment! And SVQ has a place. I usually SV from frozen, as it’s a method that allows me to get food on the table while finishing up work or getting out on the bike for a few hours to finish my day and then come home and finish up dinner. after the SV, I sear some way, either grill or cast iron. Others will go for the charcoal finish to get some additional flavor.

      the longest SV cook I’ve done is three days for a chuck roast. It was super tender. Chicken breast, pork chops, salmon are some other items as well as good ol thick cut ribeyes. Carrots are also amazing in a water bath!

      enjoy your journey with the SV method!

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      • ProPilot
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        Cant wait for the Hatch Chile Festival... See Ya Soon!

      • barelfly
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        ProPilot - ooooh another chile head!!!

      #7
      Welcome from the California Delta. No help with SV.

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        #8
        Welcome to the Pit from Buffalo!

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        • ProPilot
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          Buffalo is great, scpt it gets a bit touchy landing there during the winter! Question for ya, Do you have to insulate your pit during the winter, what with the wind off the lake and all??? HeHe

        • rlozinak
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          No, I have an LSG and it works fine in the winter. Might take a bit longer to cook, but not much

        #9
        Welcome to The Pit from Texas.

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        • ProPilot
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          Franklins in Austin,Hard Eight and Rudys Veteran , Went to Meat U Anywhere in Grapevine... Not a fan... cooked over Hickory

        #10
        Welcome from Nebraska!

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          #11
          Welcome! With yer array of cookers it will be cool to see what you come up with. Ioght step on some toes here, but not a big fan of SV. And I would say, with a 750 Gallon Mamoo of a cooker why fix whut ain’t broken. Also to git a title unscientific, I have begun to question the food safety of heatin/cookin in plastic. I know it has been declared safe by some important sounding Associations, but there is evidence that we shouldn’t even use lastic containers for water. Does SV make cookin better? I am not the guy to answer that at all.
          Again with yer knowledge &’experience I look forward to yer cooks & input. Eat good & have fun!

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          • ProPilot
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            Hey FM... I tend to like Caveman style also... Nuthing beat fire and smoke, sept the SO's anger when I climb into the bed with out showerin after smoking...
            Last edited by ProPilot; July 13, 2023, 02:24 PM.

          • jfmorris
            jfmorris commented
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            You bring up a valid point! I just saw something on the TV recently about NOT drinking water bottles that got left in a hot car. Do they think the warehouse that stored it and the truck that hauled those pallets of water bottles weren't hot too? Are we sure zip lock bags or even Food-Savr bags that I use are not leaching BPA's or whatever when we heat meat in them?

            I have an Anova, and use it once or twice a year, mostly in the winter to cook a steak to 130F when I am going to sear it inside.

          #12
          Welcome to The Pit from SoCal.

          As a Disclaimer, I am no expert or nor the most prodigious outdoor cooker guy. I have done a number of SVQ cooks of both brisket (almost always just the flats), Tri-Tips and thick pork chops. The briskets are the longest done in the SV bath before finishing on my pellet smoker - about 30 hours. SV both tenderizes and reduces potential "overcooking" as its main benefits. Can you get 'er done without it? Obviously yes, and with great results. It is just another tool in the arsenal. Enjoy the adventure!

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            #13
            Welcome to the Pit, from Yadkin Valley, NC.

            I’ve been using SV as a primary cooking method for 18 months now and love how much flexibility it provides in how to ‘finish’ the food. I’ve done SV followed by a quick sear for chops and steaks, SV followed by flash chill, refrigerate, smoke, for chops, steaks, brisket and pastrami. I’ve also used the SV to cook foods then freeze them for later finishing. With all your cookers and smoking experience, I think you’ll find the SV cooker a welcome addition to your arsenal.

            I assume you’re looking at either the Joule or Anova, both of which I own and are very good. I use my Joule mostly for large pieces of meat, long cooks or high temp cooks because it is a higher wattage than my Anova. The Joule is controlled only by an app while the Anova has a control on the immersion unit and an app.

            Best of luck in your search and SV experience.

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            • mrichie1229
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              I have an Anova and love it. I use it mainly for rib roasts, but should start exploring more uses for it.

            • ProPilot
              ProPilot commented
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              Wayne... Got and starter SV comming, But A Joule Turbo is next after a few weeks experimenting wit SV. I am thinking that SV cooks the meat in its own juice and doesn't dry it out. Thinking six hours on the smoker will finnish it... Cold Smoke??? since its alredy done ant this will hold or let the brisket slowly decelerate... Thoughts?
              Last edited by ProPilot; July 13, 2023, 02:29 PM. Reason: Spellin Failuer... What good is a spell checker... hehe

            • WayneT
              WayneT commented
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              ProPilot The SV process will extract quite a bit of liquid from meats however, I’ve never had a piece of dry meat from a SV cook when following recommendations for time and temp. I’ll tag Troutman here since he’s come up with some pretty spectacular QVQ & SVQ procedures for pastrami and other larger cuts.

            #14
            Welcome to the Pit from the Florida Suncoast. I can’t really expand on the information provided by others above. Enjoy your cooking and experimenting.

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              #15
              Welcome to the Pit ProPilot, from Minnesota!

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