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Finally Decided - The Gozney Arc XL

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    Finally Decided - The Gozney Arc XL

    After watching a bunch of YouTube videos, and following up on input from you folks on The Pit, I finally selected the Gozney Arc XL and its custom stand. It was delivered yesterday - took me under 20 minutes to un-box and setup the oven. Then it took me almost 1.5 hours to assemble the stand. These things get tougher and tougher for this old body. My beautiful bride helped, mostly with moral support, but also helped lift the oven a couple of times - the dang thing is heavy and awkward in shape. I'll insert some pics at the bottom, but why the Gozney?

    The first significant thing I eliminated was the idea of a multi-fuel oven. It became clear that fire management of the non-gas fuels requires serious attention, and it seemed that many who do have multi-fuel ovens did not see any significant benefit to either the flavor or cooking result over using purely gas as the source. Knowing me, and how I struggle with even using charcoal in my SnS (I am getting better at that!), going with a pure gas fired oven helped narrow the field. That basically eliminated the Gozney Dome and the Ooni Karu. Well, the price of the Gozney Dome multi also helped eliminate it from my selection. That led me to focus on the Everdure R Kiln (thank Uncle Bob ) and the Gozney Arc or Arc XL.

    My patio space also played a major role in deciding which way to go. I do not have much room for another table/cart of any size larger than just enough to hold the oven, let alone accessories, prep area, etc. The Gozney has a custom stand for their ovens. Everdure has a selection of outdoor kitchen stations that could be used, but those are not an option for my yard. I could have purchased a number of rolling cart options. The custom Gozney stand has the smallest footprint, rolls easily so I can move it to some of my existing tables for holding necessary cooking stuff, has side shelves that fold down and a full-length cover that goes over the oven and stand - and the cover is waterproof and fairly heavy.

    The price of the Gozney Arc XL and the Everdure are the same, so that was not a decision factor for me. They also are the same size cooking area. The Everdure has a great feature of a motorized rotating pizza stone. My concern with that is that I know that I will be one of those folks who slop a pie in such a way as to dump food into the area underneath the rotating cooking stone. The vision of that helped guide me away from the Everdure. I was also very concerned about the amount of wind we get in the afternoons. There is not door on either the Gozney or Everdure, but there is a company that makes a partial "door" for the Gozney, although it can only be used to pre-heat the oven, not during the cooking process. The Ooni Karu does have a door, but that did not override some features I did not like (folding legs, big, high chimney).

    I know any of the ovens I named and a few others here on The Pit suggested (Solo, Ooni Koda - not the one Panhead John recommended!) would do the job. Well, the deed is done and now it's time to focus on learning how to make some pies! I know my greatest challenge will be making the dough and then launching the pie into the oven without it sticking to the peel.

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    #2
    She’s a beauty, GG. I love my Roccbox, but I’d have bought this if it was available two years ago. Enjoy!
    Last edited by Sid P; June 19, 2024, 01:23 PM.

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      #3
      Excellent choice! That's a great piece of equipment.

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        #4
        Looks great!

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          #5
          Congrats! As far as launching the pizza goes - use parchment paper.That should make it easy to launch.

          Just place the stretched dough on the parchment, (you can trim excess if ya want), assemble and launch. The paper may char or burn, but that should not affect the 'za.

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          • GolfGeezer
            GolfGeezer commented
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            RonB yup, I’ve used that method on my baking steel in my home oven. I’d still like to master the technique, but not that “proud” if that is what gets the job done.

          • RonB
            RonB commented
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            OK - a wood peel will stick less than a metal peel. Use flour or cornmeal to help prevent sticking. Once the dough is on the peel, shake gently and often. You should see the whole dough move each time you shake. If the dough sticks, lift the dough where it is sticking and put some flour or cornmeal in that area and shake again to make sure it is no longer sticking. Have all the toppings close to the peel and ready so no time is wasted. Give it one final shake just before launching.

          #6
          Pizza every Friday night I presume!

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          • Jerod Broussard
            Jerod Broussard commented
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            I gave up frozen pizzas and it dropped my LDL 14.6%. But man them things are soooooooo gooooood! Hence the necessity for a pizza oven and trans-fat free dough.

          #7
          My next cooking device will be a propane pizza oven and it appears building one is not in the cards.

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          • Oak Smoke
            Oak Smoke commented
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            Why not build one?

          • Jerod Broussard
            Jerod Broussard commented
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            Oak Smoke too hot too lazy. I did finally find full size oxy-acetylene tanks. I'll get them Sat or Sun.

          #8
          How solid is the Dome on the cart? I've toyed with the idea of getting a pizza oven, and that one is on the short list. But we get some pretty nasty winds over here, and the cart+oven looks to be a bit top heavy to me.

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          • GolfGeezer
            GolfGeezer commented
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            Grillin Dad This is the Arc XL. The stand for the Dome is larger, with an added shelf just below the top of the stand that holds the Dome. So, the stand I have, if you look at the pictures above, has the propane tank on a shelf sitting very low, just above the wheels. The tank makes it very stable versus being top-heavy. The same for the Dome’s stand, it is just bigger. Wind is one of my major concerns as well, and I think this setup will work well to mitigate that issue.

          #9
          Congrats! Looks beautiful!

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            #10
            Looks awesome. I have an Ooni and my only regret is getting the 12 inch and not waiting for a bigger one. Not necessarily to make bigger pizzas but more margin for error launching and turning. So I think you’ll be very happy with your purchase.

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            • GolfGeezer
              GolfGeezer commented
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              Yup, that was a significant decision point for me - more room for “ooops!”

            #11
            I'll support the comments that RonB made above to dealing with the peel sticking issue, but differ on material. Flour often won't remain "slippery" with a very wet (high hydration) dough, and I don't care for the mouth feel of most cornmeal. I've found that semolina works best for me, especially Bob's Red Mill which is ground slightly larger particles.

            I have a wooden, a metal, and a phenolic like peel, all three work equally well with the semolina, so I'm not married to any one material. Given your choice of a fixed stone you'll want to also get a turning peel (generally a smaller, round head, roughly 8-9" diameter) to manage the cook of the dough since the heat will be primarily on one side. Their use is not difficult, but not instinctive for most people. It's a lift one side, pull and slide motion to get the pizza to rotate while staying roughly in the same zone on the stone.
            Last edited by Uncle Bob; June 20, 2024, 06:59 AM.

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              #12
              Some additional thoughts on the turning; at first I resisted getting a turning peel because I didn't want to "clutter up" the working area. I got reasonably adept at turning with the launch peel, but my launch peels are 13-14" wide so were somewhat limited by the clearance within the cook chamber. The smaller turning peel is quicker responding, and with short cook times that matters.

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              • GolfGeezer
                GolfGeezer commented
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                heh-heh - I now have a 14" wooden peel, a 12" flat metal peel, a 14" Everdure metal peel , 14" composite one I've had for years and a 6" turning peel. Tools I have - skill, meh.

              #13
              Make sure you check out Gozney’s website and YouTube channel. Lots of great recipe and technique videos.

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              • GolfGeezer
                GolfGeezer commented
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                Oh, that's all I did for a couple of weeks in researching all these wonderful ovens, and then techniques galore. Still watching more, but I realize it is like when I was learning to smoke - you just gotta do it, track the results and adjust as the lessons sink in.

              #14
              GolfGeezer, I appreciate your thoughtful explanation of your decision-making process and the input everyone else from the pit. I have regularly used a propane fueled PizzaQue For years and it is a low frills but consistent oven that I’ve used throughout the year even in cold Wisconsin winters. Use a disposable aluminum dish as a makeshift lid in the winter to protect against heat loss from the opening as it does not have a door. This Gosney looks like a higher quality upgrade from what I am used to. I’ve been intrigued by their products. I do notice that the opening to the oven is larger than I’m used to which will cause some heat loss. May you have wonderful cooking and eating experiences with it.

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                #15
                Awesome! I look forward to following. My wife and I spoke last night, and one of these will likely be hitting my patio this summer - fall.

                I launch a lot of pizzas and bread on a peel, the trick is practice. Semolina flour (more than you think), understanding how your dough feels when it is ready to launch, or build a dough you can easily launch, parchment can help as you learn, Practice is the best advice I can offer, even if you don’t feel comfortable launching, put the dough on a peel and see what it takes with flour to move it around every now and then.
                Last edited by Richard Chrz; June 29, 2024, 08:18 AM.

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