I found a never used Weber Genesis ii e610 on craigslist for $395 that is missing grates and a knob. I figure it costs another $100 in replacement parts which is still a good deal. But I also don't have a natural gas hookup. Running a natural gas line outside might be a bit tricky as I have stone garden boxes on the backside of my house. Any advice?
If not cooking outdoors, I am cooking on the stovetop with my 14" carbon steel wok, 12" CI skillet, or in the oven with my two Lodge CI pizza pans, or two dutch ovens. I've also got a nifty Lodge carbon steel grill pan that rocks for veggies outdoors.
Are you certain it’s the NG version? Only the LP model comes with that shield on the side to cover a LP tank. You sure it’s not just missing the regulator?
That said the only difference aside from the tank hanger and shield between the NG and LP version other than the regulator is the orifice hole size. Weber can probably send replacement LP orifices if it has been drilled out for NG.
If you want NG outside and don’t have experience, you really need to pay a plumber to run it right and to code. I did it myself many years ago, but I had all the tools to work with iron pipe (putting threads on the end when cutting to length, etc), and had prior experience working with gas.
Last edited by jfmorris; October 10, 2018, 08:36 PM.
Well. I talked the guy down to $300. Who knows how much repairs will actually cost once I get my hands on it. But I figure it's a steal even if i throw another $300 at it. I would like to figure out if it is actually natural gas based on that side compartment and the comments above. But the guy insists it is NG. Since I don't have a NG line running, I can't do a quick check. I would like to figure this out before running new lines. Anybody know a way to tell?
If not cooking outdoors, I am cooking on the stovetop with my 14" carbon steel wok, 12" CI skillet, or in the oven with my two Lodge CI pizza pans, or two dutch ovens. I've also got a nifty Lodge carbon steel grill pan that rocks for veggies outdoors.
Ok, looking at the photos on the Weber website, it does in fact appear that the sheet metal shroud that covers the LP tank is present on the Genesis II E-610 natural gas model and that the hanger is there too most likely.
The only difference between a NG grill a LP grill is the presence of a straight hose (NG) or a regulator and hose (LP), and second the diameter of the opening in the orifice in each burner. You don't even need the regulator if you are on a house plumbed for LP like my dad's old house. The LP running in the house pipes to the stove, fireplace, water and grill was all regulated by a regulator at the end of the house, where his 500 gallon buried tank lived.
If you want to run the NG line, I will say having had a NG powered grill in the past, it is sure nice to know you have an infinite gas supply, and won't run out in the middle of a cook.
If you wanted to convert this to LP, you would need to buy a regulator and hose ($25-ish), and get replacement orifices for the burners, as NG uses a larger hole in the orifice than LP uses. The orifices are small brass nozzles that thread into each burner. Looks like Weber will not support grill conversion, based on this:
Due to safety considerations, technological complexity and gas train components, as well as disassembly, Weber doesn’t allow conversions or provide conversion kits.
So you would need to chase down the LP orifices from someone else.
Personally.... with 6 burners, I am betting you will go through the gas with that Genesis II, and if you are not averse to paying a plumber to run the pipe, I would get a gas line run for it.
If not cooking outdoors, I am cooking on the stovetop with my 14" carbon steel wok, 12" CI skillet, or in the oven with my two Lodge CI pizza pans, or two dutch ovens. I've also got a nifty Lodge carbon steel grill pan that rocks for veggies outdoors.
jfmorris thanks for all the info. From the research I've done the Weber site showed a NG with a shroud as well. But other sites home depot etc., show the NG without and LP with. I'm going to trust the manufacturer site in this case. Im going to keep it NG, butI would still like to test the grill out and make sure it works ok before I invest in running lines. Anybody have any ideas? I plan to ask a few neighbors if they have NG grills but I'm not hopeful.
If not cooking outdoors, I am cooking on the stovetop with my 14" carbon steel wok, 12" CI skillet, or in the oven with my two Lodge CI pizza pans, or two dutch ovens. I've also got a nifty Lodge carbon steel grill pan that rocks for veggies outdoors.
Can the seller not show it to you hooked up, or do they not have gas either?
I can’t think of a good way to test without a natural gas hookup. My fireplace has gas logs and the pipe is outside and comes through the brick. When I ran the line for the stove and gas logs 20 years ago that is where I put a connect and shutoff for a grill. If you have the gas pipe on the otuside of your house and there is a ‘drip nipple’ hanging down that would be a good place to add a valve and hookup. Is a sediment trap, required on gas lines any time you change direction you see these:
The orifices should have a number on them. If you can find out what size orifices Weber uses for NG and LP, that would tell you for sure what it’s set up for.
I’ve got my Genesis on natural gas and love it. Never have to worry about running out and so much cheaper. I ran the gas line myself, but I’m an HVAC guy so I know how to run gas pipe.
If not cooking outdoors, I am cooking on the stovetop with my 14" carbon steel wok, 12" CI skillet, or in the oven with my two Lodge CI pizza pans, or two dutch ovens. I've also got a nifty Lodge carbon steel grill pan that rocks for veggies outdoors.
Red Man has the best idea i’ve seen but I will take it one step easier. Call Weber with the serial number and they will tell you if it was sold as LP or Natural gas.
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