Thank you so much everyone -- I appreciate it! It sounds like most are converging on the weber. We can go a little upward from 900 if needed the durability and searing front. On the celiac, I appreciate the kind words. It has def. been an adjustment.
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> Weber Genesis EP-330
> Grilla Grills Original Grilla (OG) pellet smoker with Alpha/Connect
> Grilla Grills Pellet Pizza Oven
> Pit Barrel Cooker (gone to a new home)
> WeberQ 2000 (on "loan" to a relative (I'll never see it again))
> Old Smokey Electric (for chickens mostly - when it's too nasty out
to fiddle with a more capable cooker)
> Luhr Jensen Little Chief Electric - Top Loader circa 1990 (smoked fish & jerky)
> Thermoworks Smoke
> 3 Thermoworks Chef Alarms
> Thermoworks Thermapen One
> Thermoworks Thermapen Classic
> Thermoworks Thermopop
> Thermoworks Square DOT
> Thermoworks IR-GUN-S
> Joule Turbo Sous Vide Circulator
> Searzall torch
> BBQ Guru Rib Ring
> WÜSTHOF, Dalstrong, and Buck knives
> Paprika App on Mac and iOS
Have a look at the Weber Genesis II E-335. It's priced just $49 north of $900 and it has every feature you need.
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Weber Kettle 22; Broil King Signet; OKJ Bronco
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I like Broil King a lot, just wish you could find them more places. The local Lowe's here is the only place that carries them, and they have at most one or two models in the store. They have a lot of bang for the buck, and are 100% made in North America (US and Canada), and have a good warranty. The only complaint I've heard from my friend with a Signet 320 3 burner is that it gets TOO hot, and that his cast iron grates did not have a porcelain coating like Weber uses, so they rusted up.
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I think that's pretty much the same grill I have, except it says Huntington on it. Same problem with the grates, I eventually ordered stainless grates direct from Broil King, and never looked back. It is capable of really heating up, and the cast aluminum box holds heat well.
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So I am looking at used too now thanks to great advice here! But do "grill grates" fit on all weber or Napoleon grills? It sounds crazy but with celiac I can't use a cooking surface that may have had gluten (wheat barley/malt rye) on it. Gluten is freakishly hardy and doesn't burn off so I would need new grates . . .
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Never mind I just realized you mean if you buy a USED grill you will replace the grates. In that event, yes, I would just get a brand new set of Grillgrates sized to your grill for the folks at grillgrate.com, and never cook gluten based stuff on it.
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Yes thanks it is the used issue. If someone put buns on the grill to toast for example celiacs are advised not to eat off of it and to cook their stuff on top of foil. So I think just getting new grates would give me peace of mind if it was a used grill. That was part of the reason I was initially leaning new grill but maybe it makes sense to try out something cheaply for a summer . . .
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22" Weber Kettle w/SNS, 18" WSM, Bronco, Grilla Chimp, Traeger Tailgater, UDS, Camp Chef Tahoe Stove.
Sorry I can't help with the gasser - I keep saying I am going to get one but never get around to it - but I wanted to chime in and say welcome to the pit. As you can see, there are some really helpful, really good folks on this forum.
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Napoleons are very good, in fact I have a 1 year old prestige 500 but that is out of the price range. Personally, think the quality drops on the lower end models and suggest you consider Weber. also to get good BBQ smoking results I would recommend the PBC over the SNS/kettle. And I have a sNS/kettle- but for long smokes its a bit to finicky and from what I've seen here PBC can go longer and more stable
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my ceramic sear burner is fantastic on the napoleon prestige pro 500 . I could be wrong but I remember when I was researching that the Prestige Pro and Rogue have differences other than size, like the amount and quality of stainless steel used. Also I think the Rogue is made in Asia and Prestige in Canada?
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Cooking gadgets
Weber Summit Charcoal Grill Center
Weber Summit Platinum D6
Blue Rhino Razor
Dyna-Glo XL Premium Dual Chamber
Camp Chef Somerset IV along with their Artisan Pizza Oven 90
Anova WiFi
Thermometers
Thermapen Mk4 - ThermaQ High Temp Kit - ThermaQ Meathead Kit - ThermaQ WiFi - ThermoWorks IR-GUN-S - ThermoWorks Signals & Billows - ThermoPop -ThermoWorks ProNeedle - ThermoWorks TimeStick Trio x2 - and a Christopher Kimball timer - NO, I do not work for ThermoWorks...I just like their products.
Other useful bits...
KitchenAid 7-qt Pro Line stand mixer
A Black & Decker food processor that I can't seem to murder
A couple of immersion blenders, one a "consumer" model & the other a "high end" Italian thing. Yes, the Italian one is a bit better, but only marginally
Instant Pot Duo Evo Plus 8-qt + accessories like egg-bite & egg holders
All-Clad pots & pans, along with some cast iron...everything from 7" Skookie pans to 8.5qt Dutch ovens
Weber GBS griddle, pizza stone, and wok
Knives range from Mercer to F. Dick to "You spent how much for one knife? One knife?!" LOL
Welcome aboard...
I have no experience with the Spirit or Genesis lines, but my Summit Platinum is going on 14 years now...and still going strong.
After using my parent's, and friends, gassers of various makes...I wouldn't hesitate at all to purchase another Weber. They're a bit more spendy than some other brands...but they know they're not going to be selling you another grill every other year.
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So I have been thinking about all the helpful comments here and also striking out in the used grill department. Any thoughts on the char-griller grillin' pro? Max Good reviewed it quite positively. The main advantage is its cheap at 170 bucks and it sears. Also all the negatives of hard to reach the tank turn on and having to light burners individually are possibly advantages for me since I worry about my kids trying to flip it on, especially the four year old. I know I am sacrificing durability! It is just that we have always used charcoal and I am concerned I might not like gas as much. I saw the Weber Genesis and it is beautiful but it was actually a little big for us -- we have a small yard and tiny deck and it is just the three kids who eat meat, I don't usually and my husband only a small amount. Napoleon rogue is a perfect size, loved it, but a little expensive given our uncertainty about gas versus charcoal. The weber spirit was the right size but lacks a sear burner I think. Thoughts??
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Cookers- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (2021)
- Camp Chef FTG900 Flat Top Grill (2020)
- Weber Genesis II E-410 w/ GrillGrates (2019)
- Weber Performer Deluxe 22.5" w/ GrillGrates & Slow 'N Sear & Drip N Griddle & Vortex & Party Q & Rotisserie (2007)
- Weber Genesis Silver A (2002)
- Thermoworks RFX System w/ 2 probes + Billows
- Thermoworks Smoke w/ Wifi Gateway
- Thermoworks Dot
- Thermoworks Thermapen ONE & Classic
- Thermoworks RT600C
- Weber Connect
- Whatever I brewed and have on tap! See it here: https://taplist.io/taplist-57685
- If not cooking outdoors, I am cooking on the stovetop with my 14" carbon steel wok, 12" CI skillet, or in the oven with my two Lodge CI pizza pans, or two dutch ovens. I've also got a nifty Lodge carbon steel grill pan that rocks for veggies outdoors.
twiggy my thoughts are that the Spirit II 2 burner model would be plenty at $399 retail. I cook outside a *LOT*, and neither of my Weber gas grills have sear burners. Max Good gives the Spirit II series positive reviews, and my son has the 3 burner version of that grill. That said, if you go into it knowing it will only last a couple of years, that Char-Griller model is fine. I think most of us just don't want to see you sour on gas due to a bad gas grill is all.
So - my 2 cents - get the Spirit II 2 burner, don't worry so much about sear burners, and you will have a nice grill with a 10 year warranty. Otherwise, you will spend more than that replacing a cheap grill every couple of years.
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My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron GriddleGrill Grate for SnSGrill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:Extreme BBQ Thermometer PackagePit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:Thermapen MK4 (pink)Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
Sear burners are nice but you can sear quite well on a gasser, using a griddle like the Grill Grate Griddle accessory . I have two of them and use them all the time for searing meats and grilling burgers. They're easy to clean and store in my cabinet next to the cookie sheets, so they're always ready to use.
You can also use a cast iron griddle or this bad boy, the Baking Steel Stainless Steel Griddle which I've been eyeballing:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...C79CXYXU&psc=1
Another member here, MBMorgan uses the stainless one and recommends it.
I have a Weber gasser with Grill Grates and the Grill Grate Griddles--all work just fine for me.
Kathryn
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