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    #16
    Thank you so much everyone -- I appreciate it! It sounds like most are converging on the weber. We can go a little upward from 900 if needed the durability and searing front. On the celiac, I appreciate the kind words. It has def. been an adjustment.

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    • EdF
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      Ask FireMan what he thinks of his Napoleon.

    #17
    Have a look at the Weber Genesis II E-335. It's priced just $49 north of $900 and it has every feature you need.

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      #18
      Weber's are great. I happened to be a Broil King fan. Either will do you just fine.

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      • jfmorris
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        I like Broil King a lot, just wish you could find them more places. The local Lowe's here is the only place that carries them, and they have at most one or two models in the store. They have a lot of bang for the buck, and are 100% made in North America (US and Canada), and have a good warranty. The only complaint I've heard from my friend with a Signet 320 3 burner is that it gets TOO hot, and that his cast iron grates did not have a porcelain coating like Weber uses, so they rusted up.

      • Murdy
        Murdy commented
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        I think that's pretty much the same grill I have, except it says Huntington on it. Same problem with the grates, I eventually ordered stainless grates direct from Broil King, and never looked back. It is capable of really heating up, and the cast aluminum box holds heat well.

      #19
      So I am looking at used too now thanks to great advice here! But do "grill grates" fit on all weber or Napoleon grills? It sounds crazy but with celiac I can't use a cooking surface that may have had gluten (wheat barley/malt rye) on it. Gluten is freakishly hardy and doesn't burn off so I would need new grates . . .

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      • jfmorris
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        Maybe a surface set would make sense for you, as you can put them down over the cast iron grates, and always be sure that they are never used for any gluten based cooks. What would you grill that has gluten in it anyway?

      • jfmorris
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        Never mind I just realized you mean if you buy a USED grill you will replace the grates. In that event, yes, I would just get a brand new set of Grillgrates sized to your grill for the folks at grillgrate.com, and never cook gluten based stuff on it.

      • twiggy
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        Yes thanks it is the used issue. If someone put buns on the grill to toast for example celiacs are advised not to eat off of it and to cook their stuff on top of foil. So I think just getting new grates would give me peace of mind if it was a used grill. That was part of the reason I was initially leaning new grill but maybe it makes sense to try out something cheaply for a summer . . .

      #20
      Sorry I can't help with the gasser - I keep saying I am going to get one but never get around to it - but I wanted to chime in and say welcome to the pit. As you can see, there are some really helpful, really good folks on this forum.

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        #21
        Napoleons are very good, in fact I have a 1 year old prestige 500 but that is out of the price range. Personally, think the quality drops on the lower end models and suggest you consider Weber. also to get good BBQ smoking results I would recommend the PBC over the SNS/kettle. And I have a sNS/kettle- but for long smokes its a bit to finicky and from what I've seen here PBC can go longer and more stable

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        • FireMan
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          Quality does not drop with the Rogue. It’s just smaller, 3 burner. With the sidewinder as I call it, the sear burner, you can get replacement stainless. Grill Grates will work with the Napoleans.

        • Jon Liebers
          Jon Liebers commented
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          my ceramic sear burner is fantastic on the napoleon prestige pro 500 . I could be wrong but I remember when I was researching that the Prestige Pro and Rogue have differences other than size, like the amount and quality of stainless steel used. Also I think the Rogue is made in Asia and Prestige in Canada?

        #22
        Soooo..you wouldn’t happen to be a British model would you??

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        • jfmorris
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          I had the same thought! That's the only other Twiggy I ever heard of...

        • Troutman
          Troutman commented
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          Yea Dame Lesley Lawson (aka Twiggy) turns 70 this year and I highly doubt she’s diving head first into bbq, but hey, inquisitive minds want to know

        • twiggy
          twiggy commented
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          ha! Sorry just seeing this. No Twiggy is the name of our Labrador who came to us -- all 75 pounds of her -- from the breeder with the name Twiggy. My husband thought it was her delicate (?!) legs but it strongly appears the name is from her love of chewing sticks.

        #23
        Welcome aboard...
        I have no experience with the Spirit or Genesis lines, but my Summit Platinum is going on 14 years now...and still going strong.

        After using my parent's, and friends, gassers of various makes...I wouldn't hesitate at all to purchase another Weber. They're a bit more spendy than some other brands...but they know they're not going to be selling you another grill every other year.

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          #24
          If you buy a used weber, there are many second source parts that you can get on Amazon. I rebuilt one a while back to give my son. Replaced the burners, flavorizer bars (tents) and grates with stainless. It has held up very well.

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            #25
            So I have been thinking about all the helpful comments here and also striking out in the used grill department. Any thoughts on the char-griller grillin' pro? Max Good reviewed it quite positively. The main advantage is its cheap at 170 bucks and it sears. Also all the negatives of hard to reach the tank turn on and having to light burners individually are possibly advantages for me since I worry about my kids trying to flip it on, especially the four year old. I know I am sacrificing durability! It is just that we have always used charcoal and I am concerned I might not like gas as much. I saw the Weber Genesis and it is beautiful but it was actually a little big for us -- we have a small yard and tiny deck and it is just the three kids who eat meat, I don't usually and my husband only a small amount. Napoleon rogue is a perfect size, loved it, but a little expensive given our uncertainty about gas versus charcoal. The weber spirit was the right size but lacks a sear burner I think. Thoughts??

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            • aladdin4d
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              This is definitely the route I would take especially since you aren't sure about gas vs charcoal. It gives you an opportunity to really learn what you like or don't like and buys you time to save up for or find a really good deal, new or used, on something you'll know you want.

            #26
            Can’t go wrong at 170 bucks. Just make sure the gas is turned off! The other stuff is minor. If ya like it you can up grade later, if not it’s 170 & on to better things.
            PS. I’ve got the Rogue, it’s great. You’re not ready for it yet.

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            • EdF
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              Definitely a good approach. Get the cheap, functional but not necessarily long-lasting one to get your feet wet. After using it for a few years, you'll have a better sense of where you want to go next.

            #27
            twiggy my thoughts are that the Spirit II 2 burner model would be plenty at $399 retail. I cook outside a *LOT*, and neither of my Weber gas grills have sear burners. Max Good gives the Spirit II series positive reviews, and my son has the 3 burner version of that grill. That said, if you go into it knowing it will only last a couple of years, that Char-Griller model is fine. I think most of us just don't want to see you sour on gas due to a bad gas grill is all.

            So - my 2 cents - get the Spirit II 2 burner, don't worry so much about sear burners, and you will have a nice grill with a 10 year warranty. Otherwise, you will spend more than that replacing a cheap grill every couple of years.

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              #28
              Weber for sure. Cooked on a Genesis for many years before my outdoor kitchen was completed. Worked great. It's still doing it's thing at my son's house.

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                #29
                I've had my Weber Summit for 16 years. A little tire looking but still cooks great. I paid $1000 then, the Summits are double that now. The Genesis 2's are in your price range. With the way Weber backs their stuff thats where I would look first.

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                  #30
                  Sear burners are nice but you can sear quite well on a gasser, using a griddle like the Grill Grate Griddle accessory . I have two of them and use them all the time for searing meats and grilling burgers. They're easy to clean and store in my cabinet next to the cookie sheets, so they're always ready to use.
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                  You can also use a cast iron griddle or this bad boy, the Baking Steel Stainless Steel Griddle which I've been eyeballing:

                  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...C79CXYXU&psc=1

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                  Another member here, MBMorgan uses the stainless one and recommends it.

                  I have a Weber gasser with Grill Grates and the Grill Grate Griddles--all work just fine for me.

                  Kathryn

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