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    Smoking with... HAY?

    I've been reading Raichlen's Project Smoke, and enjoying it. For quick smokes, like buffalo mozzarella and hamburgers, he recommends using hay.

    My first thought is, "Ugh. Hay is dirty." But y'know, it's not like wood is sterile.

    My second thought is, "All that thick smoke." But it's quick, and light.

    My third thought is, "Is there a place I can get clean hay?"

    Anyone ever use this? What happened?

    I'm kind of surprised it isn't addressed on the AR site.

    #2
    Mosca does he specify alfalfa hay or grass hay?

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    #3
    What the HAY? lol, I know everyone seeing this thread will be irked I got to say What the Hay first.

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      • johnec00
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        Interesting article, the Hay Smoked Citrus Pork Loin sounds like an worth while experiment.

      #5
      In my young days I used to work with horses. I worked my way through college packing mules in the back country of the Sierras. I have used hay to add fuel to an old Weber BBQ. My recollections - alfalfa is strong smelling and smolders a lot more. Straw has a much lighter smoke but is hotter and ignites fast. Most of the time when I used it I had consumed a bit to much whiskey so I can't remember what the flavor profiles were. In fact, at the time I don't think I cared about flavor profiles. The thing to be careful about with hay is that it has to be dry. Hay can get moldy really easily. Now, Mosca, if you are going to give this a try and find that alfalfa is good they sell alfalfa and straw pellets (my folks' burro eats them) and they sell cubes that are shaped roughy like briquettes. Maybe you will report back on each of them! HA - I'm not going to be the first to try.

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      • tbob4
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        smokinfatties, I used to work in Yosemite - Tuolumne Meadows. I think that Walker station was at 9,000 feet. The High Sierras are fantastic.

      • smokinfatties
        smokinfatties commented
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        Yes it is! High mountain meadow property

      • tbob4
        tbob4 commented
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        smokinfatties - Small world, isn't it?

      #6
      Mosca I wondered about hay, too. I wish Steve said more about hay. I also wonder if wood chips wouldn't work as well on a quick cook. They burn pretty quickly on a hot fire.

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        #7
        I automatically wonder if he really meant hay or straw, since everyone tends to mean straw when they say hay...

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        • Mosca
          Mosca commented
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          Good question. I'll shoot him an email through his BBQ Bible club.

        • Thunder77
          Thunder77 commented
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          Very true! Most of the "hay rides" we take at the farm are actually "straw rides". Bales of straw, not hay.

        • Cheef
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          I'm going to bet on straw also. burning straw gives an almost sweet smelling smoke. Hay would tend to bitterness I would think.

        #8
        Originally posted by Abom View Post
        I automatically wonder if he really meant hay or straw, since everyone tends to mean straw when they say hay...
        Exactly. Growing up we bailed a lot of rice straw but always called it hay.

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          #9
          Originally posted by Abom View Post
          I automatically wonder if he really meant hay or straw, since everyone tends to mean straw when they say hay...
          I did a quick search of his forum before asking:

          Originally posted by bluemountain
          "In this episode you "Hay" smoked steak. I've worked and lived on farms here in the Northeast most of my life, and what you used looked like straw rather that hay. Am I correct? If not, what type of hay was it?"
          Originally posted by Steven
          Busted again! It was straw. Thanks for setting a city slicker straight. (But hay works equally well.)

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            #10
            Straw is what's left of grain plants after the seed has been harvested. Hay is grass plants cut and dried with the seeds still attached. Straw would be more from a crop such as wheat. Hay is usually animal feed.

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              #11
              We used to call oat hay "straw" and alfalfa hay "alfalfa". Have no idea why.

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              • Michael Brinton
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                Was one bedding and the other feed?

              • tbob4
                tbob4 commented
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                No - both feed, although we only used oat for bedding. Horses could eat morning alfalfa and evening oat. Mules could not eat alfalfa. Before that I worked for a quarter horse trainer who we mixed twice daily oat and alfalfa flakes and the horses bedded in sawdust.

              #12
              Hay...hay...hay...everybody relax. If it come outta the ground naturally and can be lit on fire, then man has probably cooked with it. If you make small batches of hay fire you would have less smoke just gotta have enough oxygen. May not be the greatest taste, but desperate times requires desperate measures.

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              • Abom
                Abom commented
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                It was a valid question. One is a completely different plant from the other. Could reasonably be expected to make a difference in taste.

              #13
              On a Dairy farm in WI oat straw was used for bedding, alfalfa was used for feed, high in protein

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                I have a pet store near me. But I want a bit more guidance than Raichlen offered in PS or this article offers.

                I like the idea of starting with a potato... if you mess it up, who cares?

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                #15
                On a serious note, try it then get a cheap piece of meat and try that. But go very lightly. What could it hurt. Just a little poison

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