I have been using a Traeger Pellet smoker for a few years, but recenty inherited a Weber Grill. I would like to start mastering this grill because I believe it will give me better flavors than the Treager. My Treager has been awesome and I still plan to use it for long cooks. With that said, I reverse seared a Ribeye on the Weber recently and it was amazing....... My question is regarding briquettes vs the lump coal? Im not sure what it is called. I have heard that the briquettes are the leftovers off the floor and probably not worthy of a good smoke. The Weber came with some very large chunks of Mesquite Charcoal logs??? They seem to work well, but added a little too much smoke and are too large for the small portions I smoke. Maybe I didnt let them burn down enough before I threw my steak on. Anyway, I am looking for advise on what to buy on my next trip to BBQ Island, They have many choices and hopefully many flavor options.
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I've used lump almost exclusively for over 20 years in my kamados. I've also burned a fair amount of KBB in my life and I've used KBB in my kamados on an occasional basis. I don't know where this statement of KBB burning longer than lump comes from. It has been my experience that both burn about as long as the other. Maybe it's because I know and buy good lump. If you buy bad products, you get bad results.
For your kettle, I'd burn KBB in a SnS. If you don't have an SnS for your kettle, I'd urge you to get one!
Enjoy your kettle. I've always enjoyed my cooks on kettles and hope you do as well!
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JeffJ I've experienced the same issues as CeramicChef with Royal Oak, and I get bags that are mostly dust. I also get bags that are mostly ok. Too unpredictable. I'm also trying Fogo and so far ZERO issues.
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JeffJ being available locally at a great price is what made me try Royal Oak. Unfortunately after a few bags the problems started. I'm glad you're happy with it. My Home Depot has 15.5lb bags for around $13.
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Richie Many of us use & trust Kingsford Original for charcoal kettle grills, it's not garbage as some might lead you to believe. Us mods use it, Meathead uses it, and many pros on the competition circuit use it, such as Chris Lilly. If anyone tells you it's trash they're quite simply a snob and they're not telling you the whole story. Check out this article of Meathead's on Kingsford and how it's made. I wouldn't trust store brand/generic briquets, I've had bad experiences with them, your mileage may vary. But Kingsford Original is good, cheap and available everywhere. Lump is good too. Lump is more necessary in kamados such Big Green Eggs and Primos, etc. Briquets or lump will treat you well in your Weber charcoal grill. Lump burns hotter, generally. Briquets are more measureable & predictable, generally. My personal view- stay away from 'wood flavored' charcoal, like Kingsford Apple or Mesquite. Use the cheap ubiquitous Original and add a couple real wood chunks. Best of both worlds and it's your cheapest option to boot.
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Huskee - well said! There is a reason KBB is the market leader and it was spelled out in your post. KBB was the only thing I burned in my kettles; it was the only thing my Father used. If I ever have another kettle on my patio, I'll burn KBB in it. It's just flat dadgummed good!
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Richie, I use Blue Bag and Comp/Pro for briquettes and get good results. I'm also liking the Fogo lump suggested by @CeramicChef.
I tried a few bags of B&B briquettes and liked them, less ash but they don't hold together. Plus they're hard to find around here. But they cook well.
My $.02 worth.Last edited by billg71; June 25, 2016, 12:59 PM.
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I will add that almost all recipes written with the kettle in mind are also written with Kingsford blue bag briquettes in mind. Consistency is one of the secrets of success.
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I've only been using my kettle for a few weeks, but in my short experience KBB is flavor-neutral, and that many lump charcoals are not, but rather have a smokiness of their own.
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Mosca - you are so right. That's why I use FOGO most of the time. It has a very mild oak aroma. For cooks when I absolutely want/need a neutral aroma from my lump, I use Komodo Kamado Coconut Lump. Virtually no aroma at all.
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Thanks everyone for your advice. I bought a bag of The Good One, mixed hardwood charcoal. It seems to burn well and didn't over flavor the chicken I cooked. Reverse Sear is the best. Anyway, it has some good size chunks as well as slivers of charcoal. Unfortunately they fall through the grate. I guess thats another good reason to use Kingsford? Until I runout of this bag, any tips on keeping the small chunks from clogging the holes or to stop them from falling through?
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Smokers / Grills- Yoder loaded Wichita offset smoker
- PBC
- Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
- Slow 'N Sear Master Kettle (cart-mounted)
- Slow 'N Sear Travel Kettle
- Masterbuilt Gravity 560
- Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
- Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (light blue)
- Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
- Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
- Traeger Flatrock Griddle
Thermometers- SnS 500 4-probe wireless
- (3) Maverick XR-50 4-probe Wireless Thermometers
- A few straggler Maverick ET-732s
- Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
- Smoke X4 by ThermoWorks
- Thermapen MkII, orange & purple
- ThermoPop, yellow, plus a few more in a drawer for gifts
- ThermoWorks ChefAlarm (wife's)
- Morpilot 6-probe wireless
- ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
- ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well
Accessories- Instant Pot 6qt
- Anova Bluetooth SV
- Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
- Kindling Cracker King (XL)
- a couple BBQ Dragons
- Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
- Weber grill topper
- Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
- Drip 'N Griddle Pans, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by SnSGrills
- Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter
Beverages- Favorite summer beers: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold & Lime
- Fav other beers: Zombie Dust (an IPA by 3 Floyd's Brewing), Austin Bros IPA, DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
- Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
- Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
- Wine: Red - big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
- Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig Toasted. Neat please.
- Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.
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Originally posted by Richie View PostThanks everyone for your advice. I bought a bag of The Good One, mixed hardwood charcoal. It seems to burn well and didn't over flavor the chicken I cooked. Reverse Sear is the best. Anyway, it has some good size chunks as well as slivers of charcoal. Unfortunately they fall through the grate. I guess thats another good reason to use Kingsford? Until I runout of this bag, any tips on keeping the small chunks from clogging the holes or to stop them from falling through?
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I have a Primo. In the past I have used KBB for steaks but today I opened a Fogo Black. It ruined my steaks and made them taste like ash. Has anyone else experienced this using lump charcoal on steak?
For steaks and burgers, going back to KBB.
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I use Royal Oak All Natural, this is not the orange bag RO. https://www.royaloak.com/products/al...coal-briquets/
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Fan of char logs for low and slow. They seem to last much longer...haven't tried them for hot and fast, because their density and shape certainly doesn't make sense for that.
Calibration tests with no food to characterize settings. All using a level basket of KBB, and subset of that ignited by PBC chimney and lid clamped on immediately. I’m sure things will change with food load, but gives an idea how settings may affect things. Ambient temp was 30-40F. Altitude is sea level. Temperature at cook
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I just used some char logs in my 26†Weber Kettle last night for some chicken thighs. I was very impressed with how long they lasted. I put around 18 of the B&B char logs in the SnS arranged standing vertical and used maybe 15-20 KBB briquettes lit in the chimney to start them. I was able to run 300 degrees for 7 hours using my Fireboard and Pit Viper fan. I was very impressed, I’m thinking if I would run at 225 It would have lasted much longer!!
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Camp Chef Woodwind 36 Pellet grill with sidekick burner
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Mosca I used it again today and got 8 hours out of it. I did 2 racks of ribs when those were done added two tri tips. After those were finished I did some sausage. So for the amount I’m using and the length of burn time I’m getting with it I would definitely say it’s worth the cost. I do think it leaves more ash than KBB though But it didn’t seem to bother the air flow a lot. I knocked the ash off once during the entire cook.
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