Kinda specific - scenario is a private property deep inside national forest that just burned and this weekend was our first shot at getting in for two months. Still open flames all around, kinda weird and we don’t want to contribute to future burns! Our discussion was how to get stubborn lump lit w/o a fan or otherwise inducing a lot of sparks. Elevation is 5500 do it can be a little stubborn. Any ideas welcome.
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But I suppose I should clarify: you want to start a fire in a high-risk burn zone that has active fires within several miles?? And the authorities are okay with it?
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A simple way to start a fire is to use cotton balls loaded with petroleum jelly, cheap and easy. Self-lighting charcoal works well too.
I would not go into an area with active fires, nor would I start or use any open flames. Common sense, no?
First, check with the officials in your area for fire restrictions, etc.
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Originally posted by zero_credit View PostBut I suppose I should clarify: you want to start a fire in a high-risk burn zone that has active fires within several miles?? And the authorities are okay with it?
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What does "Not even close" refer to here? That Zero isn't close in their characterization or that authorities aren't ok with this?
To answer your question I'd a) consider use briquettes instead and b) if you insist on lump, put a lid on the cooker. (and if they don't want to light, use weber cubes or the like)
But honestly, if the conditions are such that sparks present a real fire risk why even take that risk?Last edited by rickgregory; September 8, 2021, 09:35 AM.
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I've observed many more sparks when I dump the bottom of the bag into the chimney starter. This leads me to conclude that most of the sparks come from the fine pieces and dust which accumulate at the bag bottom. You could sift your lump before putting it into the standard chimney and reduce the sparking immensely. But it will still spark and will need countermeasures if you proceed.
I'm guessing you may not have electricity there because of the recent burns and general remoteness. If so, I would bring a bottle of nitrous oxide (NOS), like that used for engine power adder, and using a tiny orifice, would gently release it at the bottom of the starter. This would add extra oxygen to compensate for the altitude and hasten the spread of the fire (inside the starter).
Lastly, I would use the chimney starter only once and transfer the coals to a fire pit to which you could add more fuel in small amounts, periodically, to reduce the amount of fuel starting at any one time. Then you could shovel from the coal bed into your cooker. This would also be a good time to transition to logs in the fire pit, using the lump only once to get it going. Hardwood logs should not throw as many sparks.Last edited by Bruceski44; September 8, 2021, 08:36 AM.
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Personally I think you either need to avoid dumping from the bag of lump, to avoid the small pieces that cause sparks, or use briquettes instead. I am pretty shocked they actually allow charcoal grills in a fire zone at all. I used to have a Weber Go-Anywhere propane grill that was handy for camping when I couldn't use charcoal.
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