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  • Andrrr
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    • May 2019
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    Rectangular Chicken Thighs

    I fully admit I will probably never get into comp cooking but why are perfectly right angle edges, rectangular chicken thighs the gold standard for competition judging? Is square better? It’s not normal looking and they don’t come off the chicken that way. Best I can tell is judges make you do it only because it’s really hard to do.
    The presentation boxes people post are beautiful and I’d definitely go to town on them but I guess my question is how did that become the thing?
  • texastweeter
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    • Jul 2017
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    #2
    Used to be round muffin tins were all the rage, poached in butter. Texas comps make you use half a yard bird. Heck they taste better too!

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    • jfmorris
      jfmorris commented
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      Half a yard bird is how I cook 'em!
  • Steve R.
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    • Jul 2016
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    #3
    It's important to understand that the KCBS rules and judges aren't saying you have to do this. It's just that someone found an advantage to doing it that way, and other teams followed suit to try to keep up.

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    • Andrrr
      Andrrr commented
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      That makes a lot of sense but now I’m thinking of all the reasons why rectangles give the advantage.

    • Nate
      Nate commented
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      +1 on KCBS not telling you that they have to be that shape... that isn't one of their rules... yet!
  • Bkhuna
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    • Apr 2019
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    #4
    I'm experimenting with trapezoid thighs.

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    • smokin fool
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      • Apr 2019
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      #5
      Those thighs take a lot of work on an elliptical....I prefer spinning.

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      • ComfortablyNumb
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        #6
        Rectangular chicken thighs are square, round are more hip! And leftovers are cool.... ;-)

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          #7
          Uniformity... one of the scores is presentation... uniform size, shape, appearance, etc... is more appealing....

          Arguably (right or wrong) if a person put 6 untrimmed thighs in a box it probably isn't going to score as high as 6 identical looking pieces neatly arranged.... And when every point counts.... you do what you gotta do... including the people that use tweezers to arrange their green bed just right...

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          • TripleB
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            Uniformity is not a judging criteria. Presentation is generally looking for legality. For example, pooling of sauce, sculpting, foreign objects, etc. Unfortunately you are correct that a judge might score down untrimmed, irregular looking thighs, but they are not suppose to.

          • Mark V
            Mark V commented
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            Uniformity is not a judging criteria, KCBS judge here. But, looking at a box, if all look the same and you think man I want to eat that stuff, is different than when you look at a box and say, why is that one so different? That is an appearance issue. That piece might look ok on it's own, then no problem. I will go out on a limb and say a judge should not look at a box and say, I want that piece, not that one!

          • Nate
            Nate commented
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            TripleB and Mark V , I apologize I didn’t mean to suggest that “uniformity” was a criteria but that uniformity may be the reason people craft rectangular thighs in an effort to impact appearance... I think Mark nailed what I was getting at when he said you shouldn’t look in a box and say I want that one.
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          #8
          Rectangular chicken thighs are not the standard. Uniformity is not a judging criteria. Presentation is really looking for specific violations- pooling of sauce, sculpting of meat, foreign objects, illegal garnish, etc. The meat in the box does need to look appealing (operative word here is needs, not has to). However if you put in a hot mess in your box or pale meat, you will probably get marked down. Because it does not look appealing. I probably score 99% of boxes presented a 9. I've only seen once when their was a violation (toothpick in the box). I judge should careless if the chicken thighs are rectangular, muffin tin shape or whatever. Besides, any part of the chicken can be turned in (breasts, wings, legs or thighs).

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          • rickgregory
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            #9
            The idea that presentation is a criterion in judging BBQ... one of the most down to earth cuisines around... is just hilarious.

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            • Steve R.
              Steve R. commented
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              Presentation is something a team can do to try to make a good first impression, but it's not actually one of the three criteria of appearance, taste and tenderness that each meat is judged on.

            • rickgregory
              rickgregory commented
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              yeah, I know... but people do it for a reason. If they see chicken presented this way win a few times, they can tell themselves all they want "Hey, it's not a criterion..." But they'd be silly to keep losing narrowly and not doing it themselves.
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