Currently have an Akorn. Looking to upgrade, though I really like my Akorn. I'm willing to venture out into other smokers but I really don't know which way to go. I think I want to stick with charcoal or stick burning though, know a lot of folks with Tragers and they have good results but I like the taste better with mine. Any suggestions?
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Current Portfolio:
Joule
PK300
Meathead’s Large Big Green Egg Loaded (see below)
Old (sold) Loves:
PBC
Weber 22" Premium
Masterbuilt Gravity 560
Akorn Kamado
Thermometers:
Thermopro wired
Thermoworks POP
Combustion Inc
Preferred Charcoal:
Masterbuilt Lump
Favorite Rubs:
Homemade (mainly MMD/Just Like Katz rub)
Other Accessories:
Big Green Egg Slow & Sear
Tandoori Skewers System for BGE
Split ceramic plates BGE
Smoking plate BGE
Mercer brisket slicing knife
Rapala brisket trimming knife
SS BBQ trays
NoCry Cut Resistant Gloves
LEM # 8 Meat Grinder
Lodge 5-Quart Dutch Oven + Skillet
Meat Claws
Grill Rescue Brush
Meat Fridge for dry aging
Favorite Whiskey/Beer:
Anything Peaty or anything from New Holland brewery
What are your requirements other than charcoal or stick? Also budget?Last edited by STEbbq; December 17, 2022, 10:34 AM.
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Current cookers:
Recteq RT-700 "Bull" pellet cooker
Smokin-It model 2 electric smoker w/ Maverick 732 temp monitor and cold smoking kit
Weber Genesis 3 burner gas grill w/ rotisserie
Charbroil Grill2Go gas grill
Weber 22" Performer Deluxe kettle grill w/ThermoPro TP-20S temp monitor
Onlyfire rotisserie kit for 22" kettle
Weber Smokey Joe
SnS Deluxe
Vortex
The Orion Cooker convection cooker/smoker (two of them)
Pit Boss Ultimate 3 burner griddle
Joule Sous Vide circulator
Thermopen original.
Too many miscellaneous accessories (grill pans, baskets, tools, gloves, etc.) to keep track of. 🤦♂️
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Favorite cocktail: Bourbon neat
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WSM 22.5", Pitmaster IQ110, Weber 22.5" Kettle with SNS, Weber 14" Smokey Joe.
Uh oh, here we go lol.
I have a couple Weber Smokey Mountain 22's that I use when I want to smoke pork butts, briskets etc. The WSM uses charcoal briquettes or lump as the fuel source (I prefer briquettes due to longer burn times) and wood chunks for smoke. The cool thing is you can use different woods and even mix them up like hickory and cherry for instance. The flavor profile is more robust and closer to what you are used to. It is very easy to operate and control temps once you get the hang of it. You can use an external fan to help control the temp but I've found once you learn the cooker, overnight cooks are a breeze without one.
Brisket off the WSM for Thanksgiving.
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Weber Kettle 22 (SnS / Vortex/ Onlyfire Rotisserie/pizza kit combo)
PBC
Bronco Pro
Blackstone Dual Use
Thermopro TP20 (2 probe)
Thermopro TP27 (4 probe)
Thermopro TP19 instant read
strictly a briquettes guy…
Kingsford Blue Bag
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I have both a PBC and a Bronco Pro.
both are great for my needs. Both have the ability to hang meat so there is plenty of capacity. I prefer the flavor I get from the PBC, but the Bronco is a little easier to use...imo.
I use briquettes with wood chunks as my fuel/smoke source. Both certainly capable of running on lump as well.
Good luck in your search, and let us know what you get
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I’m a kamado fan. I have 2 Kamado Joe’s, A big joe and an 18 inch classic. They retain moisture and use a very small amount of charcoal. I can fill mine and either will run well over 24 hours at 250F. With a Smobot to control the temps they are incredible. The Smobot doesn’t even use a fan. The whole set up is simple and turns out great food.
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Since you already have an Akorn, may I suggest the Akorn Auto-Kamado? Same style and size as your Akorn (except this has a really cool swing away 'warming rack' which increases total cooking capacity from 314 sq inches to 445!, same fuel - tho the manuf. suggests lump ... has a blower with the same interface as the Char-Griller 960 Gravity. Last week WalMart had them for mid-200's which is a CRAZY low price!
Here's a Tom Horsman review video for your viewing pleasure 😉😀
Enjoy your search to scratch that elusive MCS itch LOL
Peace,
Nunyaz
THREE racks of Baby Backs on the Auto Kamado
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Budget will matter, as well as capacity. The easy approach is the Bronco or PBC. Since you can hang things, there's plenty of capacity for things like ribs and others (paging Uncle Bob ) like theirs a lot. fzxdoc did a great post that's stickied in the PBC forum. Both are in the $500-ish range.
Things like the Weber Smokey Mountain etc are also in the running in that rough range as is the SNS kettle. The kettle also takes accessories (though, irritatingly, the SNS is slightly different than the Weber 22 so can't use its accessories). Things like the Vortex and various rotisseries can be nice if you think you'll use them.
On the higher end, the Karubecue stick burner seems to turn out amazing food, but it's a) a stick burner meaning you need to tend it and b) it's $1700.
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Current Portfolio:
Joule
PK300
Meathead’s Large Big Green Egg Loaded (see below)
Old (sold) Loves:
PBC
Weber 22" Premium
Masterbuilt Gravity 560
Akorn Kamado
Thermometers:
Thermopro wired
Thermoworks POP
Combustion Inc
Preferred Charcoal:
Masterbuilt Lump
Favorite Rubs:
Homemade (mainly MMD/Just Like Katz rub)
Other Accessories:
Big Green Egg Slow & Sear
Tandoori Skewers System for BGE
Split ceramic plates BGE
Smoking plate BGE
Mercer brisket slicing knife
Rapala brisket trimming knife
SS BBQ trays
NoCry Cut Resistant Gloves
LEM # 8 Meat Grinder
Lodge 5-Quart Dutch Oven + Skillet
Meat Claws
Grill Rescue Brush
Meat Fridge for dry aging
Favorite Whiskey/Beer:
Anything Peaty or anything from New Holland brewery
The Akorns are the best bang for the buck in the kamado world. You can upgrade to the auto one as mentioned for $200 or on sale or they have a ceramic option for around $600. The design is the same as the cheaper one you already have though so you’ll still be stuck with the features you are not fond of right now.
If your budget supports 1k+, I would look at the Primos and Kamado Joes which are much better designed. You may also be able to find some cost-effective used ones on FB Marketplace or Craigslist.Last edited by STEbbq; December 17, 2022, 01:54 PM.
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Pit Boss Copperhead 5 vertical pellet smoker
Weber Spirit 3-burner LPG grill w/GrillGrates
SnS Deluxe Kettle
Joule sous vide wand & tub
SnS-500 4-probe w/RF remote monitor (w/extra probes)
Fireboard 2 w/extra probes
Meater+ Wifi/Bluetooth T probe
ThermoPro instant read
Fluke 62Max IR gun thermometer
Full set Mercer knives
WorkSharp Ken Onion sharpener
Weber toolset (tongs, spatula, etc)
Meat Your Maker 11" vac sealer
Cookbooks: Meathead; Food Lab (Alt-Lopez); Salt Fat Acid Heat (Nosrat)
...and a partridge in a pear treeeeeeeeeee...
I went through this exercise myself earlier this year and settled on the SnS Deluxe kettle (already have pellet & gas cookers). It's even more versatile than I'd expected, I'm still exploring the capabilities. It's not fully wheeled, but has two back wheels and two rigid front legs (four points of ground contact instead of the traditional three for a kettle). I'll be using it for a 2-zone reverse sear thang on a couple of strip steaks in just a few hours, as it happens... good luck!
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