I started to prepare the PBC for some ribs when I got home from work and when I was ready to install the ET732 bbq probe......the dreaded "LLL" and no matter what I do as per the instructions it will not go away. I hope it is just the probe and not the transmitter that's bad. So, I have no idea what the temp is going to be inside my PBC and I guess it's a moot point. They'll cooked "Glanville" style.......light it up and hang the meat, don't worry about it.
BTW, I lit the coals with lighter fluid this time....but no temp probe to see the difference over the duration of the cook from the chimney way, oh well.
I did quite a few cooks before I thought about hanging a thermometer. I've had probes give that reading, I left them hanging, and they came to during the cook. Might want to try that.
Been tinkering with it.....I've noticed that when the probe comes down to ambient temp, a reading can be observed. But as soon as heat gets to it, the "LLL" appears.....I think it's a bad probe but not really sure.
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Chuck Yeah Maverick's ET 732/733 probes are definitely the weak point of an otherwise excellent little product. The probes are like lightbulbs- they may last years w/o issues or they may only last a couple uses. I buy the 6' extension probes whenever I get a new Mav, and keep the stock 3' probes as backups. You sure don't want to run into bad probe issues during an expensive meat cook. It just happened to me the other day doing a Kobe tri-tip.
The first time I got the dreaded LLL I accidentally dropped the probe into the water bowl of my WSM. It happened again during my last cook but both times it happened I wiped the probe with a rag and it fixed the problem. I am going to have to order some back up probes soon.
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Exposing the top of the probe to water will definitely cause you some problems. You could try leaving it overnight in the over set at 200 or maybe put it in a plastic bag full of rice to see if that draws the moisture out.
I'm intrigued by oven-roasting a probe to bring it back to life... my 3' maverick meat probe gives readings about 20-30 degrees lower, which prompted me to order new probes. Lo and behold, the new 6' probe reads correctly... has anyone else seen this? If so, did baking it help?
Well, they turned out really good.......however I did have the bottom rib turn out to be over cooked. Is that normal, I thought that wasn't supposed to occur.
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Wow, those ribs look great, Chuck . How long were they in the PBC?
If I'm just doing one or two racks, I cut them in half. Less chance of them dropping into the fire that way, and less chance of the lowest rib getting overdone because it's just too doggone close to the coals.
I did some babybacks on Sunday at ave PBC temp 270 and they took under 4 hours--closer to 3.5 hours, actually. They were the best I've ever made. I cut the racks in half and hooked below the 3rd bone.
Thanks Kathryn...............I sauced them at 3 hrs and then put them back for an additional 30 min. I think cutting in half is going to be the way to go because I have yet to buy a rack of St. Louis cut ribs that I did not have to trim the bottom off so they did not touch the coals.
I think that's very true Ernest.........but having said that, I really want to know what's going on inside with the heat, especially when I do my first brisket.
I ordered anot her set of probes (6 ft) but now I want to ask about placement of the temp probe in the PBC. It seems to me that in order for their to be a meaningful discussion of PBC temperature monitoring, it would helpful if we were all placing the temp probe at the same location within the cooker. To me that location is what I want to call the "lid" temperature. So I fix it so the temp probe is level with the rebar....rather than letting it hang 2 or 4 inches below the rebar. Is this over thinking it? Shouldn't there be a standard location from which we discuss PBC temps? It's just a thought.
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Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:
SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron Griddle
Grill Grate for SnS
Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:
Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:
Thermapen MK4 (pink)
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
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Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
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A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
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6" Chef's Knife
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3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
Chuck , whenever I'm cooking anything (in my oven, on my gasser, on my PBC), I want to know what the temperature is at the level of the majority of the food mass. So for me, on a PBC, the temp at the lid does not provide me with much pertinent information--unless of course, you assume (which could be true, since I've never checked it) that the temp at the lid is the same as that at the level of whatever meat I'm cooking in the PBC.
I completely understand why you think that a standardized position for recording the temp might be a good idea. The fewer variables that can affect an accurate reading, the better. I'm just not convinced at this point that the temp at the lid is something that I would be comfortable with tracking. But hey, to each his/her own.
I see your point but our discussion of temps would then be quite variable and relative to what's hanging.
My thinking is, understanding that it could be completely wrong, I want to know what the temp is at the meat that's the greatest distance from the heat source. But since it's vertical cooking maybe it just doesn't matter.
My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:
SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron Griddle
Grill Grate for SnS
Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:
Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:
Thermapen MK4 (pink)
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:
8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
I see your point but our discussion of temps would then be quite variable and relative to what's hanging.
True that, Chuck, but if I only have one probe to use to register the smoker temp, I will probably still place it at the level center to the hanging meat. If I have two probes, then hey, it would be great to see what the temp is up close to the lid, or at least at the rebar.
To my mind, the better I know what the temp profiles are at various places within the PBC, the better cook I can be.
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