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    PBC chicken cook

    So, I decided to "go all out" and do 4 chicken halves from two 5.4lb birds on the PBC. Read and read tons of info on this magnificent site and figured I had this (I know, sounds looming). I can’t say it was a total failure, but was hoping it would have turned out better. Still learning my way around the PBC (this is about my 7th cook and second time with chicken).

    What I did:
    Dry brined the night before and left in fridge uncovered. Used S&G right before putting on cooker.
    Followed fzxdoc lighting procedure (takes 30min for my PBC chimney). So 30-10-10 for me using the minion method.
    Used my Fireboard for ambient (dangling roughly in the middle vertically and horizontally of the food) and food probe for the breast of one of the chickens.
    I was aiming for 325min to 400max ambient as this was my first cook with a significant amount of dangling chow. I figured I needed to run it hotter to compensate for a fuller load.
    The ambient temp hit 400 before I hung and dropped to 325ish while I finished placing everything and put the lid back on.
    After about 7min the ambient temp dropped to 315 and I then cracked the lid (about as small of a crack it could be). It then got to 353 after 6min. I repeated this process every 7-10 minutes over the next hour or so with extremes of 315 to 380 while hoping for it to level out. It never did level, that’s why I continued to crack and replace.
    About 50min after putting the birds on, the food probe hit 160. I figured (as well as how fast it was climbing compared to what other folks have shared with their experiences) that I should check the breast temps with the Thermopen MK4. For all 4 halves I got 145-150. Including the leave-in Fireboard halve. Now I admit I may not have given the MK4 the 2 seconds it needs as my eyes were fighting through smoke and awareness to not have the lid off for too long. I re-positioned the Fireboard food probe with little change to the 160 reading. So I decided to let it ride to 170 thinking if the MK4 said 145-150 then at "170" would actually mean 155-160 and so on.
    So when the meat probe hit 170 (after 1hr 10min) I decided to pull one of them off (as opposed to fighting through the smoke) and the MK4 said about 175 in the breast depending on the placement. I then yanked them all off and got temps of 170- 183 except for the leave-in Fireboard halve which MK4’d at 165. That was the one I was basing the others off of since the PBC is supposed to cook so evenly.

    Results:
    The leave-in probed chicken was pretty much as advertised. The breast was juicy (even the top) and super tasty.
    The other 3 halves (based off one of them as it was too much chicken to sample) weren’t bad when it came to the breast, but did exhibit a bit of stickiness on the teeth when chewing.
    I did however sample the skin from all and holy expletive it was amazing!!!
    The dark meat seems to be un-phased by the higher finished cook temp of the breast which makes sense based off the similar forgiveness of pork butts.

    So where I think I veered:
    I did not give the MK4 a full 2 seconds to give a true temp.
    My leave in probe placement was off. I did try to make sure it wasn’t touching the hook.

    Another thing I have notice in my previous simple test cooks is that the coals always glow on one half of the basket. I don’t live in a climate with a lot of wind other than spring which is only for a couple weeks in March or monsoon craziness in July/August. However, I’ve always noticed that there is a bit of a draft. So insignificant you don’t even see the flimsiest of bushes or tree branches reacting to. The bottom vent is always positioned 90 degrees from the direction of this draft. Maybe rotate the cooker so the vent is 180 degrees from the direction of the draft? After I pulled the chicken I rotated it to this position and after quite a while the coals did seem to start lighting more centrally.


    Start of cook. Vent at 6 O'clock. Draft is from right to left.

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    Finished product.

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    #2
    Rod , thanks for the nice writeup of your chicken cook. It sounds pretty much like my "loaded" Chicken & Sausage cooks--
    • I crack the lid off and on often throughout the cook.
    • The fire often (but not always) is lit in 1/2 of the basket at a time. When that happens, I usually rotate my chickens accordingly about halfway through.
      • Twice in all my chicken cooks one half of the basket burned down to ash while the other side was only halfway burned down. That was weird.
    • I always test with the MK4 because I trust its reading more than the leave-in probe. The leave-in probe only reads the temp at one spot, while I can get 2-4 readings pretty quickly with the MK4 in the breast and thigh.
    • Letting that skin dry out good in the fridge overnight and cooking at the higher temps like you did sure makes good crackly skin.
    • I've been using small diameter stainless steel rods when I cook chicken instead of the rebars. That lets more air in when I have to hang on 2 rebars for a loaded cook. For smaller cooks, many of us pull one rebar out and position the other diagonally (for more hanging room) so 2 rebar holes are open for the entire cook.
    • I like to pull the chickens at 160°F and let the carryover take the breast temp up to 165°F, but have let the breast get up to 170° by mistake once in a while. I'm always amazed that they stay pretty moist even at 170.
    • Kingsford Professional is my charcoal of choice for chicken cooks because it burns hotter and faster in my PBC.


    Congrats on such a nice cook. Those birds look scrumpdillyishous.

    Kathryn
    Last edited by fzxdoc; February 8, 2018, 09:35 AM.

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    • Butchman
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      Fzxdoc you’re advice is always spot on! Great stuff as usual.

    • fzxdoc
      fzxdoc commented
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      Thanks, Butchman . I'm happy to help. I always get so much help on this site that it feels good to pay it forward .
      K.

    #3
    Nice looking birds for sure...plus a good detailed write up. I’m not a PBC guy but I’m sure this will be helpful to those who are.

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      #4
      Beautiful!

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        #5
        Rod thanks for the details, and that's a successful cook in my book.

        Gotta love the PBC, realizing it is a fairly crude device that can make most back yard hacks like me better BBQ'rs even in its simple, set-it-and-forget mode. But what I also love about it is the ability to dial that sucker in, as we are learning to do, to produce some amazing, professional quality results using the techniques, tips and experience of the folks in this awesome community (looking at you fzxdoc and others...)

        Keep it up!

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          #6
          Hey Rod - I always set my PBC up with the bottom vent facing into the wind. I've noticed if it's not, it runs cooler and temps seem to vary more. Just my two cents. The PBC is a chicken machine once you get your technique nailed down.

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          • Rod
            Rod commented
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            Bob's BBQ Will keep that in mind. Thanks!

          #7
          Yeah, the "crack and go" method is required to keep the temps up when doing lots of chicken. Those bad boys bleed a lot of fat onto the coals and if you have both rebar in you are definitely going to be playing "crack and go" with the lid to keep those temps up! Nice job, and nice write up!

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          • Troutman
            Troutman commented
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            Yea nice psychedelic avatar to Pappy....awesome!!

          • PappyBBQ
            PappyBBQ commented
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            Psychedelic? Whaaaat?

          #8
          I got sooo tired of cracking so I installed a VENTA on my lid.

          There is a burn progression with the basket. Those coals inline with the vent hog most of the oxygen coming in.

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          • RobertC
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            Yeah. Kinda makes you think that the bottom vent could be used to control temperature.

          • PappyBBQ
            PappyBBQ commented
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            Yeah. Basket definitely burns from vent side to the opposite side. Typically I don't care about this because it's rare when I load my PBC down, but when I do I'm apt to rotate the charcoal basket a bit during the cook...

          • Nairb
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            In order to combat this I bank all my unlit coals towards the vent and dump my lit coals in the empty space on the far side away from the vent. The coals then burn towards the vent lighting the unlit coals along the way.

          #9
          This solves my "cracking" problem. Click image for larger version

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          • wrgilb
            wrgilb commented
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            Where did you get the vent from?

          • RustyHaines
            RustyHaines commented
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            The vent appears to be homemade?

          • FireMan
            FireMan commented
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            Yes it is ho-made.

          #10
          Pit Members constantly posting PBC cooks is driving me crazy. Mine is buried under a foot of snow!

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          • hogdog6
            hogdog6 commented
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            Got shovel?

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