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    PBC first cook, brisket

    I posted about my first run with the PBC which was a dry run just to see how it would run. I figured I might as well just go for it, so for my dad's birthday this past weekend it was a 14.5 lb brisket(untrimmed) as my first cook. I prepped it the night before by heavily trimming it. I figured the PBC runs humid, the family doesn't like fat, trim it! And trim it I did. Not sure what the final weight was but it was definitely slimmer. I then covered with salt and put it back in the refrigerator overnight. I took it out in the morning and covered it in black pepper and garlic powder. My better half is sensitive to MSG and prefers more basic flavors so, pepper and powder.

    I have my PBC set to 1/4 open and I use Kingsford Professional. I used the PBC lighting method starting with a full basket, removed 40 and put them in the small chimney I have, and lit. I let that go for 12 minutes then poured them on the top of the basket, put the brisket in, and put the lid on. I double hooked the brisket and it hung about an inch or two above the coals. My wife didn't want it wrapped so it was a bare cook the whole way. Entire cook time was 5 1/2 hours to an internal temp of 201 . After that I wrapped it in foil and a couple towels and placed it in the cooler for about 3 1/2 hours until the early dinner time(Had to have time to go fishing after )

    I was really happy with the flavors but it wasn't quite tender enough for me, not far off but I would have preferred a little more tender. You could easily go through most of it with a fork but some parts took a little effort. The rest of the family loved the flavor and the tenderness so what do I know. My wife asked if I'd be able to repeat that exactly in two weeks when my younger son graduates from high school. As long as she's happy, I'm happy.

    I'm including some photos of the cook along with my data. It was interesting to watch the temps. I know the PBC is a "just cook it" cooker but I wanted to at least keep a general eye on things in case temps went way to high or dropped way to low, they didn't. The temps climbed to 350 then just held there for 90 minutes. The graph shows a gradual decline but that's not exactly how it went. I recorded temps ever 30 minutes so the drop looks gradual but what happened was the cooker ran almost exactly at 350 for 90 minutes then just before one of the readings it dropped 25 degrees in a couple minutes then hung in that range for almost a half hour then dropped another 25+ to settle in it's final range of 280 to 300. When I first saw it moving along at 350 I was a tad nervous then remembered I've read about some places cook all their briskets at 350. Knowing that and knowing the PBC to be a more humid cooker I figured I'd just let it roll.

    About the only thing I would probably do different next time is put a third hook in the brisket and at the start of the cook hang from the third hook pulling the end up away from the coals a little more so I don't lose the bottom inch of the meat. Then again, it's a slim bit so not a big deal.

    Very happy with the first cook on the PBC. Looking forward to many more.

    My first idea is to maybe cut the vent back to 1/8 to see if it would run a little bit cooler. Thoughts?

    About the 2 hour mark.

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    #2
    Nice job phoccer! I've never had the pleasure of cooking on or eating from a pbc. And you almost did a turbo cook on it. Fairly hot and quick. Maybe you get some of the tenderness back if you cool the temp a bit as you noted...

    Get after that second cook w confidence now bud!!!

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    • phoccer
      phoccer commented
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      Definitely a turbo cook. I kept waiting for it to stall but I think with temps in that range it just moved on through.

    #3
    Great Job, Neighbor!!!
    That brisky looks great!!
    Cool Cook t' break in th' new PBC...
    Sure was nice meetin' ya', an even yer Mom, yesterday!!!
    I really enjoyed that!!!
    Many Thanks, once again, Brother!
    Last edited by Mr. Bones; April 24, 2017, 05:23 PM.

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      #4
      Looks Great, thanks for the Knowledge.

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        #5
        Your brisket looks really good. That is a brave choice for your maiden voyage (my maiden voyage in the PBC was yesterday and I cooked baby backs).

        It looks like you got nice bark and a really nice smoke ring.

        You questioned the tenderness a bit. I have 2 thoughts - first, what grade of brisket did you use? If it was 'select', it may have been a quality of meat issue. If it was 'choice' or 'prime' it may have cooked too fast - It looks like you spent about 3 hours north of 300 which seems a bit high to me. Regardless, that is some really good-looking brisket and I would characterize that as a very successful first cook in your new device based upon the pics.

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        • Mr. Bones
          Mr. Bones commented
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          Good points, also: Each piece of meat varies, maybe that one was jus' not quite tender yet, despite an IT of 201°...

        • phoccer
          phoccer commented
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          I was definitely tasty. I forgot to mention it was a Prime from Sam's. I've read about high temp brisket and my first brisket on my Weber Kettle was at high temps as well(300-325) and it turned out great IMO. I'd definitely take a cook like this every time if that's the way it's meant to be.

        #6
        From my experience those temps look a bit high @phoccer. Assuming you used Kingsford BB, had both rebars in and your lid wasn't smoking like a train my guess is your vent was open too far for the altitude you are at. Not even remotely a huge deal at all - it's the results that matter and I'd say you done good.

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        • phoccer
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          Kingsford Professional so I expect it to run a little hot. The results were definitely good. The family was thrilled to that's my main goal.

        #7
        Your photos in this and your other post make it look like there was a small amount of smoke coming from around the lid. Before you fiddle further with the lower intake vent I wonder whether it might make sense just to do another run for your kid's high school graduation without altering the vent but ensuring that the lid seals. Perhaps that may resolve the higher temperature issue.

        Happy for your success.

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        • phoccer
          phoccer commented
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          Yes, there was a little bit coming out from the lit, not a lot, just a bit. I'm perplexed because when I push down on the top handle the lid doesn't seem to move so it can't be off by much.

        #8
        It looks like you handled it well, and as long as the wife is happy...

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          #9
          Great looking cook ... congrats!

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            #10
            The pics looked great. I have one other thought - with the PBC I think it's more than just temps at play. The PBC has the meat dangling directly above the fire with no diffuser. That is a different way of cooking than typical low/slow. My ribs were thoroughly done in roughly 4 hours and normally they've taken at least an hour longer in my other cookers at roughly similar temps. There's something about the meat dripping directly onto the fire...that direct exposure may produce a quicker cook regardless of the ambient temperature inside the cooking chamber.

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              #11
              Great write up! And it looks like you had a tasty result too!! Can't wait to get my own PBC later this year...

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                #12
                Congrats on a great cook. I think each PBC is different. I have to have mine more open than suggested for my altitude to run in the 275-300 range. I just played with it til I found the "sweet spot" for the vent on mine. Enjoy, phoccer .

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                  #13
                  Mine ran in the 255-265 range for my first cook.

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                    #14
                    I am still learning with my PBC as well, but one important thing is how well the charcoal is lit before you close it up with the meat in. Refer to the awesome lighting instructions. You mentioned taking the 40 coals and lighting for 12 min, then you poured them in. How long did you let them burn before putting the meat on and the lid? From the pics it looks like you had all the coals burning. What I have had trouble with is one side will burn and I will have coals on the other side that did not light, last time these coals were under the ribs I hung. This will have an effect on temp and how long the temp stays hot. I like to run the PBC around 275F and will stir coals or plug the rebar holes for a while if I feel I move to much away from that. Great looking brisket, you are off to a good start!

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                    • phoccer
                      phoccer commented
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                      Right now I'm following the PBC lighting instructions just to see how those work for me. I light the chimney, let them go for 12 minutes, then spread them around the top. I immediately put the brisket on and started cooking.

                    #15
                    I followed Kathryn's lighting instructions and it worked really well.

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