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1st cook on the PBC; comparing to my BGE

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    1st cook on the PBC; comparing to my BGE

    I've been cooking on a large Big Green Egg for several years, and just recently bought a PBC, to give me more cooking options and the ability to cook more. I've done 2 different cooks on the PBC, spare ribs and chicken wings, and they weren't nearly as good as what I'm used to on the BGE. So to that end, I'm looking for some suggestions on what I can do to improve my results.

    I used some KBB in a Weber charcoal starter, that I ignited with some newspaper, and then dumped the hot coals (I let them burn for about 15 minutes), on a bed of Lazzari charcoal briquettes. I let those get good and hot, before I added a few small pieces cherry and hickory wood, for flavor. I dry brined the ribs with a little bit of Kosher salt, that I let rest on the ribs for about 3 hours, and then seasoned with my normal spices. I then hung the single rack, and let it cook for about 2.5 hours, before I checked them with a meat thermometer and found they were at about 190 degrees. I pulled them off, and slapped a little sauce on them, and rehung them, and let them cook for about another 30 minutes or so, until they were around 203 degrees, and then called them done. On my BGE, using a plate setter for indirect smoking around 225 degrees using Lazarri lump charcoal, and a pan full of water, I usually do something close to the 3-2-1, but probably more of a 2-1-.5, using a Texas crutch with some sort of liquid, usually apple juice, butter, honey, brown sugar, and a few other things, before finishing them off with some soft of sauce.

    In a separate cook, I tossed the chicken wings in a little bit of olive oil, and then seasoned, before putting them on the PBC and let them cook to a bit past done, around 180 degrees (that's how I like them). I do the same exact thing on the BGE with the wings, but setup just like above.

    In both cooks I found the ribs and the chicken to be a lot dryer than I'm used to, and they didn't have the same flavor profile at all. In fact, the ribs were only tolerable to me, but not good or great. The ribs may be due to not crutching them like I normally do, but I can't explain the chicken.

    Thoughts? Suggestions?

    Thanks y'all!

    #2
    I've never cooked on a BGE and only had my PBC for a year so there are certainly people here more knowledgeable than I. However, everything I have cooked has been incredibly juicy. One piece of advice I got from someone on this site was for a while do the recipes exactly a Noah shows in the videos on the PBC website and then start tweaking. Also fzxdoc has some great posts on getting the most out of the PBC. I used her lighting technique and have found it helpful. Here is a link to it.



    Good luck.

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      #3
      I use a BGE, and have been interested in a PBC for some time. Gonna keep an eye on the post for comments. Great question TallTrees

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      • Laxdad
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        SoCalTim, Recognize you from the other forum!! Welcome!! Like you, I've been using the BGE for several years and just got the PBC. Only have 2 cooks so far - ABT's for Xmas Eve and pork tenderloins for the inlaws after Xmas. So far, VERY happy!! I'll keep you posted with future cooks. Be well!!

      #4
      I've cooked chicken several times on my pbc and I've consistently been impressed with how juicy they turn out. I've frozen entire half-chickens, thawed them out, and they are still juicy. The only thing I can think of that would dry out a chicken is if I cooked it for a really long time... basically I pull any chicken once the thickest parts hit 160 - 170 F. That usually occurs in two hours or less. I often cook four-six racks of st. louis ribs at a pop. With that volume of meat, the humidity in the barrel is very high. I can speculate that if you cook multiple racks it may work out better. I've found that two racks can be somewhat over-done (IMHO - of which I only have a few...) in 3 hours.

      Check out my ribs/chicken post here:

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        #5
        TallTrees First I came over from the BGE side along with the Weber with SnS. My first cook was good but not great in spite of the accolades from this Forum. What I discovered, after rereading previous posts and Noah, was that the PBC is a cooker, grill and smoker. The PBC is not a smoker in the sense of giving the food a deep BGE type smoke, it does give the meat a much lighter smoke. Now having said that, let me say this: It works brilliantly as a cooker, etc. It will not give you the BGE flavor profile. It took me a couple of cooks to realize that and you know what? It turns out some great cooks! In fact fzxdoc has me so hooked on her chicken recipe, that I'm cooking that on a regular basis now. Everything is very flavorful and juicy and I even ordered a 5# bag of the All Purpose Rub-that stuff rocks! The PBC works better with more meat rather than less. So my usual minimum is a large chicken (6-7#), rack of both St Louis and Baby Back Ribs and any other meat like Brat burgers, et al. I do crutch the ribs but only by double wrapping in foil, and placing in the cooler until the chicken is done. You'll be getting a lot of of information on this Forum. Enjoy!!

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          #6
          I have both PBC and BGE. Love both however the PBC is king at my house. if you go to the PBC section of the forums you will get excellent information on how to light, and cook on it. Once you get the basics I'm confident you will love what comes off of that thing. As stated above fzxdoc has excellent posts especially on how to light you "cooker", follow her advise along with others and your cooks will be amazing. Happy cooking!

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            #7
            I did another cook on my PBC last night, using a whole chicken. I cut it into quarters, and then did a quick dry brine with kosher salt. I then loaded my Weber chimney with a mix of KBB and Lazarri charcoal, and though I'm at 264 feet above sea level, let the coals get really hot (about 20 minutes), before I dumped and spread them on a bed of Lazarri charcoal. I waited about another 10~15 minutes for the coals to settle in, and by this time my PBC internal temperature was around 350º. I dropped a small chunk of cherry wood on the coals, and then I seasoned my chicken very well, like I normally do, and then using my hinged grate, I hung the chicken breast, and laid the thighs on the grate. After 20 minutes or so, I checked the internal temperature and found that it had dropped down to about 300º. Still a little hot for my liking, but that's OK.

            I let the bird cook for about an hour, and found that the temp on the thighs was coming up quickly, but the hanging breast were taking their sweet time. I pulled the thighs off probably at about the hour and 15 minute mark, at a temperature of around 170º. I found that the skin was nicely browned, very tough, and not at all to my liking. However, the thigh meat was perfect! Very juicy and flavorful.

            I let the breast go for probably about another 45 minutes, until they were at 165º, and then pulled them off. Surprisingly the breast skin was more to my liking, but not perfect. It was soft and pliable, but not crisp. Nor was it tough. What I may try next time is to lay it on the grate, when it gets to 160º, and let it finish there. And wow, was this chicken meat moist, juicy and delicious! I loved it. My mother in law, claimed it was the best that she's ever had.

            One of these days real soon, I think I'll have to do a side by side comparison of my BGE and the PBC, cooking the same meats to a done temperature, and then doing a taste test!

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              #8
              Looks like you're on your way. Check out this link it's written by fzxdoc. Kathryn has a lot of info regarding chicken on the PBC. Also @jerodbroussard.

              https://pitmaster.amazingribs.com/fo...-skin-on-grill

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                #9
                Comparison Eating - the essence of improvement!

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