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    PBC & Auber Info

    I recently installed an Auber temperature control on my PBC, and I'd like some input from those who have, I guess particularly Jerod. First, I bought the 10 cfm model, and I decided to try the simplest installation I could. So I punched a 1-3/8" diameter hole in the side, using a standard electronic chassis punch. It went through easily and left a nice clean hole. I wanted to place the Auber fan opposite the regular bottom inlet vent, between the rebar holes, but the barrel seam is there so I moved over a couple of inches. I put the center of the hole 3" from the bottom.

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    My thinking was that the input air would hit the side of the coal basket and be diverted around, and there would be minimum disturbance of ashes. The top of the coal basket is about 4-1/2" above the bottom. I did not use any plumbing to mount the Auber, just snapped the springs into the hole and it held fine. It is easy to take off and put on. Yes, the barrel is round, and the Auber face is flat, but there didn't seem to be a big gap, so I haven't bothered to put a gasket on it (or dent the barrel side locally). After several hours running, the Auber housing was not hot to the touch, so I think it will be fine. However, it's probably a good idea to buy their silicone foam gasket.

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    My question is how to set the vents on the PBC when using the Auber. My PBC tends to run hot, and it's a struggle, plugging rebar holes, etc., to get it below 300 deg, never mind the 225-250 that I would like to try. So I decided to almost completely shut the lower inlet (I have a sliding shutter on it), and go more or less normal on the upper vents. My thinking was that I should shut off most of the regular input air and let the Auber fan supply what was needed, because without shutting the input vent, the PBC temperature would probably never get low enough for the Auber to come on and take control. A general principle of control theory is that the controlling element, in this case the Auber fan, should be ON about 1/2 the time for best control. This seemed to work for my first try, but I'd like to know what others have done.



    FYI, I don't hang big loads of meat, like you-know-who. Usually just a couple of racks of pork ribs or beef short ribs, or 5 lbs of chuck roast or bacon, maybe an 8 lb pork butt. So it's usually less than 10 lbs, and not enough to really cool the PBC off during the stall. As I said, I'm usually trying to get the temperature down, not up.

    Thanks for any input, and I'll report back on future experience.
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    FYI, I don't hang big loads of meat, like you-know-who
    Hey I resemble that remark.

    If temps are too high try lighting less charcoal. That way the Auber can then bring the temp up and keep it there.

    When I use mine it is to supplement, which means I allow the Auber to maintain the temp I brought up "artificially" along with the vent. Meaning- I want to run 225-250, but all the meat I just hung got the barrel struggling to maintain 200. I open the pipes, crack the lid, whatever I have to do to get it climbing. When it gets there I shut those things down, and switch on the Auber.

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      I have a Heatermeter, and I have it controlling 100% of the airflow to my PBC. I've only used it for a few cooks, and am still dialing things in. It's currently running in a fanless configuration with just the servo operated door opening and closing to maintain temperature.



      I recently did a Pastrami cook for 8-9 hours overnight, in the rain. The PBC was under the porch, but it was still getting wet, and wind. It took a high percentage of the available output range to keep it at 275, and it burned through an overfilled coal basket, but it held the temperature.

      I'm not sure what the CFM requirements are of the PBC. 10CFM might be enough to run with the main door all the way closed. I guess you could try and let us know?

      I have plans of making a plate for the PBC that will stay permanently inside. I Intend for it to be above the air intake, and fit tight to the side, and close fit to the charcoal basket. Intention is that the air will be forced to go through the bottom of the charcoal basket, instead of just up and out. The reason I'm running a fanless setup right now is because the fan that I had when it would kick on, even at 5%, would cause the pit temperature to drop, because it moved so much air. It was 14 CFM though.

      Other thoughts are to mount the fan in the center underneath, and figure a way to let the air up to the coals, but not let the ash fall back down.

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        I'm with you on having to drive temps down on the PBC. After watching the video on smoke I've tried to get the coal basket pretty well lit in order to stem off any unwanted flavors from briquettes. However, when doing that I have to plug that sucker up tight. I've battled trying to find that balance of lit briquettes vs overrun temps.

        I added a PartyQ recently right in the original intake, so it does 100% of the air control. I only let the coals go for a few minutes after dumping the chimney on them and then the PartyQ does the rest. It doesn't result in a fully lit basket of briquettes but the PartyQ has no issues holding temps at 250 with no other adjustments. In fact it results in a much more efficient use of the charcoal. I've had much more left over after doing PBs then I ever had in the past. I used to worry about the coals going out on unwrapped PB cooks, not anymore.

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          I'm with you dpsphotos . I installed a BBQ Guru DigiQ DX2 right in the original intake vent of the PBC and rely on it for 100% of the air input needed to control temperature. Maintaining a temp of 225 or 250 is no longer a challenge.

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            Sweet. How does it attach? Can you get a picture of it without the DigiQ? I'd like to see if I can hook it to my Heatermeter. BigBear
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          • Skip B
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            Hey BigBear- that looks like a great setup. One question- what adapter and fan did you use for the DigiQ?

          • BigBear
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            Skip, I used the XL Grill Dome Adapter and the Pit Viper (Medium) Fan. It is 10 cfm and just right for the PBC. I posted a detailed post about the installation in the PBC Subforum a month or so ago.

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          Sure Rfuilrez . I have attached 3 photos which will show how the DigiQ attaches to the magnetic hanger. It looks like it is specifically made for this unit. Good luck.

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