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  • grillinglousiana
    Club Member
    • Jul 2019
    • 172
    • Denham Springs Lousiana

    #16
    Originally posted by DanMancuso View Post
    If anyone has a recommendation for a gasket to seal the firebox and cooking chamber please let me know.
    that 980 isa good coker u will like it...char-grilla on there site says the chamber has no need for a gasket..i put one anway on my friends and on the fire box..checkout Tom Horsnman on u tube

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    • pkadare
      Club Member
      • Jun 2019
      • 1054
      • Bobcaygeon, Ontario
      • My gear:
        22 Weber Kettle
        Napoleon PRO Charcoal Kettle Grill
        Broil King Keg
        Traeger Pro 34
        Napoleon Prestige Pro 500
        Pit Barrel Cooker
        Blackstone Range Combo Griddle

      #17
      One big difference between the MGS and Char-Griller is that unlike the MGS, the Char-Griller is not cloud enabled. That means that you can only use their app to monitor the cooker as long as your phone and the cooker are on the same WiFi network. This would make the Char-Griller a non-starter for me, even if I hadn't already ordered a 560 with some of my Air Canada miles. :-)

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      • grillinglousiana
        grillinglousiana commented
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        yep..i like my 560...a lot..both are darn good and fun to use....cant go wrong which ever ond u use..i look for more to come out..for me much better cookers than a pellette gril..just my opinion
    • zero_credit
      Club Member
      • Mar 2020
      • 904
      • Near Chicago, IL
      • Current Pride and Joy:

        Masterbuilt Gravity 560

        Joule

        Old (sold) Loves:

        PBC
        Weber 22" Premium

        Thermometers:

        Inkbird
        Thermoworks POP

        Preferred Charcoal:

        B&B Charlogs/B&B Lump

      #18
      I can confirm there has been regular firmware updates on the MGS as well that have fixed bugs and made the WiFi rock solid without hurting performance.

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      • pkadare
        Club Member
        • Jun 2019
        • 1054
        • Bobcaygeon, Ontario
        • My gear:
          22 Weber Kettle
          Napoleon PRO Charcoal Kettle Grill
          Broil King Keg
          Traeger Pro 34
          Napoleon Prestige Pro 500
          Pit Barrel Cooker
          Blackstone Range Combo Griddle

        #19
        I did a lot of research on the MGS line prior to using my points to order one and from what I've read, these are the main problems that folks have reported:
        1. The lining of the firebox burns away and one finds small bits of metal in the ash bin. Masterbuilt says this is by design and the thin metal in that area is there to protect the fire resistant material underneath until it hardens up from the heat of use. The MGS series now ships with a porcelain lined hopper which is new.
        2. Issues with the switches. There is a switch to detect the lid being open and one for the lid on the charcoal hopper being open. These switches were problematic for a lot of folks. The newer MGS grills have new switches with stainless steel plungers rather than plastic ones.
        3. Unburned charcoal in the ash bin. This was also addressed by Masterbuilt with a new design for the charcoal grate that has smaller openings and everything I've read from those who have this updated grate indicates that it solves the initial problem.
        I realize that FB groups for products are normally full of fans but I belong to 4 of them, and those who have an MGS rave about how great a cooker it is. At least Masterbuilt has acknowledged the short comings and has addressed them. I can't wait for mine to arrive.

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        • Polarbear777
          Polarbear777 commented
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          1. Metal on mine long gone. Probably 100 cooks in no issues with performance due to the firebox

          2. All my switches are dead and I shorted them all together.

          3. Haven’t noticed any unburned coals ever. Except when I run lump and those small pieces fall through while loading.

          Cooks great, easy to run, reloading fuel mid cook us no prob, I run it for 24 hrs plus many weekends and the ash bin isn’t even full.
          Doesn’t seem built to last....my guess is 4-5 years before major parts needed.
      • tedhogan
        Club Member
        • Oct 2019
        • 2

        #20
        Just received my 980 a few days ago. I've done reverse seared ribeyes, chicken, and asparagus so far. Everything came out excellent and the temperature is rock solid. The temp is even on the grill surface area, no bad hot spots. Steaks and chicken every bit as good as my Kamado Joe with the convenience of a pellet grill. I don't think I'm ever going back. This thing will smoke at 225, then shoot up to 700 in minutes to sear. Just best to set it to 675 or so to avoid shooting over. It's really something else and the smoke from chunks in the ash basket is just fine. I love this grill. It's also built like a tank.

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        • tedhogan
          Club Member
          • Oct 2019
          • 2

          #21
          One thing I'll also add is the space. Lots and lots of space on this beast. So much better than my 18" kamado. You can throw a lot of food on this thing and with the even temp distribution, you're just fine. It's really impressive how they managed to have even cooking over the whole surface.

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          • zero_credit
            Club Member
            • Mar 2020
            • 904
            • Near Chicago, IL
            • Current Pride and Joy:

              Masterbuilt Gravity 560

              Joule

              Old (sold) Loves:

              PBC
              Weber 22" Premium

              Thermometers:

              Inkbird
              Thermoworks POP

              Preferred Charcoal:

              B&B Charlogs/B&B Lump

            #22
            I finally got around to watching this Tom Horsman video comparing the MB560 and the Char-Griller GF.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpHedLffOwk

            The major differences are the improved grease management with the Char-Griller and the more insulated firebox.

            The problem is the updated parts look to be porcelain-coated and not stainless steel, meaning durability issues and rust issues over time. There's also a more substantial charcoal grate for catching coals.

            I am not entirely convinced that the upgraded grease management system will offer benefits. As the grease tray is not removable, so maybe it will let more grease flow to the grease bucket effectively, but you'd still have to take everything out to clean it, versus the removable drawer with the MB.

            With MB560 offering the upgraded grate, switches, and firebox inserts, it seems that they've at least upgraded the parts to match up with Char-Griller.

            And, as others have noted, the MB lets you monitor from anywhere, while the Char-Griller is WiFI only.

            Tom also noted no differences in food quality.

            Overall, I don't think it's a slam dunk that the Char-Griller is automatically better than the MB560, especially given the recent MB updates.





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            • zero_credit
              zero_credit commented
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              Yeah I would agree with that. I just finally had a chance to look at the actual differences.

            • pkadare
              pkadare commented
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              Aside from the new charcoal grate design (newer 560's and 1050's, out of the gate for the 800's) there were no changes to the firebox itself. The middle and upper hopper is now porcelain coated on all MGS models, there are no inserts.

            • grillinglousiana
              grillinglousiana commented
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              i am sure the 980 is going to be a great cooker,truth is i like my 560 very much/made a ton of mods on it,just a great cooker and fun to use
          • BCam
            Club Member
            • Aug 2020
            • 7
            • Tarpon Springs, Florida

            #23
            First impressions after three cooks (Ribs, Brisket, 2" Tomahawk Steaks)

            !!! FANTASTIC !!!

            Full disclaimer: I applied gasket tape around the cooking chamber lid and the firebox top lid as part of the assembly. Also, put bumpers on the legs where the front shelf could hit when in the down position. AND, bumper on the side of the shelf where the firebox ash door could hit when opened. All done before firing it up. Then ran a 30-minute smoke test for leaks.

            Ribs: 3.5 hours @ 225˚F. Fuel: Mix of Briquets, Lump, and Hickory chunks. The grill maintained the temp perfectly.

            Brisket: 15.2Lbs (after trimming). 3 hours @225˚F, 13 hours @ 250˚F. Fuel: Same mix as ribs. I did top off the hopper mid-cook to ensure I didn't run out of fuel. Total cook time: 16.25 hours. Again, temps were maintained perfectly.

            Tomahawk Steaks: 8-10 minutes @ 700˚, flipping every minute. Fuel: Lump (Hickory chips in ash can). As the lid was opened, I wanted to test the temps around the surface. I put seven (yes, 7) temp probes around the grill; each corner, center edges, and dead center. Cooked the tomahawks. I was SHOCKED, all probes were within 10˚ of each other at all times, EVEN THE FRONT! I was blown away.

            Taste Review: As many of you know, my wife is a VERY discerning BBQ carnivorous fiend. If the smoke is "dirty" or even slightly too much, she lets me know and won't eat more than a bite or two. Seriously.

            I used Hickory on all of these cooks as it is a stronger (heavy) smoke and I wanted to see how the Char-Griller Gravity 980 handles it. All of my taste-testers (11) said the smoke flavor was spot on. When turning to my wife to get her review, she looked up from her empty brisket plate, smiled, and said, "Thank you for cooking this perfectly to my taste." I asked her how she liked the ribs from the night before, "Why? What did you do that was different? Did you test some kind of weird stuff, like ground grub-rub or something?", she asked. "No, just used the new cooker with my regular process.", was my reply. "They were excellent. Let's have some more for Memorial Day."

            So, there you have it. Pretty good cooker. It is now, officially, in my stable of cookers.
            Last edited by BCam; May 30, 2021, 09:10 AM.

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            • zero_credit
              zero_credit commented
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              Great review!

              How have you found grease management?

            • BCam
              BCam commented
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              No issues with the grease management. I emptied the collection pan mid-cook and at the end of cook. When I took apart the grill to see the residue, I found very little.
          • BCam
            Club Member
            • Aug 2020
            • 7
            • Tarpon Springs, Florida

            #24
            One thing I forgot to mention, I put two trays of the brisket trimmings to render the fat for tallow (I use either Wagyu Tallow or self-rendered tallow when wrapping my brisket). The real estate on this grill allowed for the huge brisket and the two trays of trimmings.

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            • blair2818
              Club Member
              • Aug 2018
              • 4
              • Omaha, NE

              #25
              I am waiting for the review here before I pull the trigger. 2 years ago I bought a new propane grill and my wife is not in love with the idea of me needing a new grill/smoker

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