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Recommendations for ATC for Pit Barrel Cooker and Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center

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  • New2Cue
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    • Jul 2015
    • 129
    • Northern Virginia/D.C. area
    • Pit Barrel Cooker
      Weber Genesis with Sear Station
      Maverick ET-732 Remote Thermometer
      Thermopop Thermometer

    Recommendations for ATC for Pit Barrel Cooker and Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center

    So I've had a PBC for about 3 years now, and I would say about a third of the time I have a problem with falling temps and the charcoal dying. I can't figure out what the problem is, except for possibly humidity (I'm in the DC area). It's a pain to keep cracking the lid open to get the fire going again, and then to go back out and shut it before temps get too hot. I've thought about modding the lid to add one of the Weber dampers, but I'm wondering if an ATC would just be an easier fix for overnight cooks.

    I also just got a WSCGC. It's got a port for ATC systems, so ideally, I'd like to get something that would work on both the PBC and the WSCGC.


    Any recommendations? I'm a bit new to the electronics/fans thing so I'm not sure if you can use the same system across cookers so long as you have the appropriate adaptors.

    Thanks in advance!
  • jfmorris
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    • Nov 2017
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    #2
    New2Cue I would look at one of the 3 models available at bbqguru.com - the PartyQ, DigiQ and CyberQ. They sell adapters for almost every grill too (including the PBC and Summit), and all 3 come with a fan and the controller. If you happen to already have a Fireboard, then you can use it as the controller, otherwise I would get one of these. The PartyQ is nice as it is completely cordless, and runs from batteries. The CyberQ and DigiQ need access to an AC plug near the grill.

    Just go punch in your Summit or PBC from the list, add that kit to the cart, then go back and choose the other grill, see what adapter it includes, and add just that adapter to your cart.

    I think they install on the PBC by inserting a metal plate with the fan hole into the opening where the existing damper is.

    Calling fzxdoc to this thread, as she has both grills and may know how to fit a temperature controller to each!
    Last edited by jfmorris; September 1st, 2018, 10:20 AM.

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    • New2Cue
      New2Cue commented
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      Thanks for the suggestions! I’ll have to look them up. Not excited about dropping money for a set up, but if I do it I’m going to do it right.
  • Danjohnston949
    Former Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 4437
    • 1410 9th. St. N, Fargo ND

    #3
    New2Cue, Regretabley I Don't Have Either Of Your Griis/Smokers❗️❓❗️ There Are Many Happy Owners Of Both On This Site‼️ First IMLTHOP, YOU SHOULD PM fzxdoc, Kathryn "The Queen Bee Of The PBC"❗️ She May Be Able To Help You Out❓ For Your Info She Also Has A WSCGC❗️ Additionally You Might Want To PM @Jerod Btoussard (Moderator) Abd Owner Of A "HOT ROD PBC"‼️ In Addition To Straight Pipes, Jerod Uses A Temp Controller On The PBC❗️ There Willl Be Many Others Chiming In‼️
    Hope This Help❗️ From A Backyard Cremator In Fargo ND, Dan

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    • New2Cue
      Club Member
      • Jul 2015
      • 129
      • Northern Virginia/D.C. area
      • Pit Barrel Cooker
        Weber Genesis with Sear Station
        Maverick ET-732 Remote Thermometer
        Thermopop Thermometer

      #4
      Thank you!

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      • New2Cue
        Club Member
        • Jul 2015
        • 129
        • Northern Virginia/D.C. area
        • Pit Barrel Cooker
          Weber Genesis with Sear Station
          Maverick ET-732 Remote Thermometer
          Thermopop Thermometer

        #5
        Sorry to bump this - I'm looking to get an ATC that can work on both my Weber Summit and PBC. The Weber Summit is great at maintaining temps, but my PBC always has temp issues (crashing) - I figure a fan unit will help me to avoid having to run in and out of the house to crack the lid and then back to close it before temps skyrocket. It's either that or I sell the PBC and buy something like a Gateway or Hunsaker to avoid all this frustration with the PBC.

        I'll probably go with a Fireboard as a new thermometer device so whatever ATC unit I get will have to work with it. I'm looking forward to six channels - a few weeks ago I did a brisket and pork butt on the Weber and four racks of ribs on the PBC and having the extra channels beyond the two on my Maverick would have been nice (the food came out great nonetheless)!

        Any updated recommendations are greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!

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        • Polarbear777
          Club Member
          • Sep 2016
          • 1345

          #6
          Doesn’t the summit have a built in port for a fan?

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          • fzxdoc
            fzxdoc commented
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            Yes it does.
        • fzxdoc
          Founding Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 4287
          • My toys:
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            Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks)
            Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill
            Weber Kettle Premium 22"
            Weber Jumbo Joe Premium 22" (a weird little 22" kettle mutant on 22"-long legs) (donated to local battered women's shelter.)
            Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range


            Adrenaline BBQ Company's SnS, DnG and Large Charcoal Basket for WSCGC
            Adrenaline BBQ Company's Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
            Adrenaline BBQ Company's SS Rack for DnG
            Grill Grate for SnS
            Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections with GrateGriddle for Summit S650 gasser (they sit on top of existing Weber SS grates)
            2 Grill Grate Griddles
            Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650 gasser

            Fireboard Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
            Fireboard Competition Probes 1" (two) and two more Ambient Probes
            Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
            Thermoworks Thermapen MK5 (pink)
            Thermoworks Thermapen MK4 (pink too)
            Thermoworks Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
            Thermoworks Extra Big and Loud Timer
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            Grill Pinz
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            VacMaster Pro 350 Vacuum Sealer
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            Shun Classic 8" Chef's Knife
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            Shun Classic 3 1/2 inch Paring Knife

          #7
          New2Cue , I'm guessing that you could purchase the Weber adapter for your WSCGC and the Grill Dome XL adapter for your PBC from www.bbqguru.com . The BBQ Guru folks are so easy to work with--great customer service, and will patiently answer any questions. With a Pit Viper fan (medium) from BBQ Guru and Fireboard's Drive Cable, you should be all set. I think you could just switch the fan between your PBC and WSCGC.

          You may want to see setups with PBC adapters linked to in this post.

          Caveat: this is the setup I'm researching, but I haven't pulled the trigger yet and therefore have no direct experience. Hopefully those who do have experience will pop in here and comment and help us both out!

          And P.S. you won't regret purchasing that Extreme BBQ package from Fireboard. I use it all the time and love it. Lost one ambient probe (went flaky) which they replaced no questions asked. I also purchased that skinny competition series short probe for ribs. I especially like having the 6 probes when I'm running my WSCGC and PBC at the same time--my fav kind of smoking days.

          Kathryn

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          • New2Cue
            New2Cue commented
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            Thank you so much! This is really helpful, appreciate it!
        • supergas6
          Charter Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 36
          • Jacksonville, Florida
          • Pit Barrel Cooker!!!!
            Maverick ET-732
            Weber Kettle modded with Party Q and Smokenator (overflow only)

          #8
          New2Cue , I have the Fireboard, too, and posted in a separate thread my experiences in using it as a "guru" on my PBC. An absolutely amazing combination. I have done pork butts, briskets, ribs, and chicken since I "bit the bullet" about two months ago and love every minute of it. The control is unbelievable, and makes the PBC even more "hands off" than it is at its baseline state.

          Here is a graph from the cook of a brisket I made on Father's Day. Due to constraints about when I would b around (church, family commitments, etc.), I "slowed" it down and ran the PBC at 225F for most of the cook. My wife said it was the best one I've ever made...

          In case you need help finding the thread where I describe my efforts in making this work:

          https://pitmaster.amazingribs.com/fo...-barrel-cooker

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          • cgrover60
            Club Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 252
            • Albuquerque NM

            #9
            New on the scene from ThermoWorks - https://www.thermoworks.com/Billows

            Drawback is it requires the Signals controller but could be an option for both of your cookers.

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            • New2Cue
              Club Member
              • Jul 2015
              • 129
              • Northern Virginia/D.C. area
              • Pit Barrel Cooker
                Weber Genesis with Sear Station
                Maverick ET-732 Remote Thermometer
                Thermopop Thermometer

              #10
              Originally posted by supergas6 View Post
              New2Cue , I have the Fireboard, too, and posted in a separate thread my experiences in using it as a "guru" on my PBC. An absolutely amazing combination. I have done pork butts, briskets, ribs, and chicken since I "bit the bullet" about two months ago and love every minute of it. The control is unbelievable, and makes the PBC even more "hands off" than it is at its baseline state.

              Here is a graph from the cook of a brisket I made on Father's Day. Due to constraints about when I would b around (church, family commitments, etc.), I "slowed" it down and ran the PBC at 225F for most of the cook. My wife said it was the best one I've ever made...

              In case you need help finding the thread where I describe my efforts in making this work:

              https://pitmaster.amazingribs.com/fo...-barrel-cooker
              Great stuff Supergas! Thanks for passing along the recommendation!

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              • New2Cue
                Club Member
                • Jul 2015
                • 129
                • Northern Virginia/D.C. area
                • Pit Barrel Cooker
                  Weber Genesis with Sear Station
                  Maverick ET-732 Remote Thermometer
                  Thermopop Thermometer

                #11
                Originally posted by cgrover60 View Post
                New on the scene from ThermoWorks - https://www.thermoworks.com/Billows

                Drawback is it requires the Signals controller but could be an option for both of your cookers.
                Thanks cgrover - I saw that in one of the emails from ThermoWorks. I'll check it out, but seems like the Fireboard is the gold standard at the moment. Really appreciate it!

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                • jfmorris
                  jfmorris commented
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                  I like Thermoworks stuff, but don't see how their new Billows fan, or the fan Fireboard sells, would adapt well to the PBC and the WSCGC. It's like trying to put a square peg in a round hole, or over a round hole anyway! I think the Fireboard and then a fan from BBQguru.com with the adapter for your grill is the way to go. The Guru guys just have so many adapters for their fans.
              • au4stree
                Club Member
                • Aug 2018
                • 407
                • Birmingham, AL
                • Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC), PK360(graphite), Jumbo Joe and PBC. Weber kettle @ the hunting camp.

                #12
                I realize you mentioned wanting a controller for both the PBC and the WSCGC, but I read last night that Smobot is coming out with a control for the WSC. I'm not entirely sure when, but just something to think about.

                http://www.smobot.com/

                Also, there are lots of threads on here with success stories.

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                • fzxdoc
                  fzxdoc commented
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                  Good to know, au4stree . I know you were addressing New2Cue, but I'm contemplating the options as well for my WSCGC and PBC.

                  There's something nice about being able to switch the fan between both units, though. Plus I have the Fireboard Extreme BBQ package plus a few extra probes already. I'll be sticking with the Fireboard Driver/Pit Viper fan(medium)/adapters for the WSCGC and the Pit Barrel from BBQ Guru.

                  Kathryn
                  Last edited by fzxdoc; July 22nd, 2019, 02:05 PM.
              • au4stree
                Club Member
                • Aug 2018
                • 407
                • Birmingham, AL
                • Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC), PK360(graphite), Jumbo Joe and PBC. Weber kettle @ the hunting camp.

                #13
                Had a birthday recently and was given a PartyQ from my wife and kids. I was shocked cuz I don't recall ever telling them about wanting a BBQ Guru device. Needless to say I am super excited to complete a cook. I might just burn some coals to see how well it does. I've got a PK360 and WSCGC that will benefit nicely to this addition.

                I want to thank any of you that somehow spoke to my wife telepathically or whatever you might have done to influence this gift decision. I've already bought the pipe test plug to modify the PK360 per Polarbear777 's advice.

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                • holehogg
                  holehogg commented
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                  That's what friends / pit members do. Just let us know whats next on the list.
              • Mark V
                Club Member
                • Oct 2018
                • 149
                • Minnesota

                #14
                I had problems after a few hours with temps in the PBC then propped up the firebox a few inches and no more problems. I assume the ash collected and interfered with air flow.

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                • fzxdoc
                  Founding Member
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 4287
                  • My toys:
                    Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
                    Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks)
                    Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill
                    Weber Kettle Premium 22"
                    Weber Jumbo Joe Premium 22" (a weird little 22" kettle mutant on 22"-long legs) (donated to local battered women's shelter.)
                    Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range


                    Adrenaline BBQ Company's SnS, DnG and Large Charcoal Basket for WSCGC
                    Adrenaline BBQ Company's Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
                    Adrenaline BBQ Company's SS Rack for DnG
                    Grill Grate for SnS
                    Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections with GrateGriddle for Summit S650 gasser (they sit on top of existing Weber SS grates)
                    2 Grill Grate Griddles
                    Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650 gasser

                    Fireboard Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
                    Fireboard Competition Probes 1" (two) and two more Ambient Probes
                    Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
                    Thermoworks Thermapen MK5 (pink)
                    Thermoworks Thermapen MK4 (pink too)
                    Thermoworks Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
                    Thermoworks Extra Big and Loud Timer
                    Thermoworks Timestick Trio
                    Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
                    Maverick ET 733
                    Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
                    Grill Pinz
                    Vortex (two of them)

                    Two Joule Sous Vide devices
                    VacMaster Pro 350 Vacuum Sealer
                    Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
                    Charcoal Companion TurboQue
                    A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets

                    BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney

                    Shun Classic 8" Chef's Knife
                    Shun Classic 6" Chef's Knife
                    Shun Classic Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
                    Shun Classic 3 1/2 inch Paring Knife

                  #15
                  au4stree , what a nice gift! You'll have a lot of fun setting it up for your cookers. Let us know how it works out for you. Sounds like your wife did a little research to find just the right birthday gift for her guy. So thoughtful.

                  Mark V , I don't recall hearing folks talk about having a problem with the PBC due to ash buildup, but I've always wondered whether that would be an issue. What sort of ATC setup do you have?

                  Kathryn
                  Last edited by fzxdoc; August 9th, 2019, 07:33 AM.

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