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  • Ahumadora
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    • Oct 2015
    • 2193
    • Warkworth, New Zealand

    Brisket bath time

    Smoking briskets Monday at a catering company, so decided to sv a point to try something different. Although I like @Troutmans med rare brisket I need to show the catering company how it can be done to cook a normal brisket. Any input on time n temp. Potkettleblack. ??
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  • Hulagn1971
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    • Dec 2014
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    #2
    Following.

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    • pkadare
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      As an FYI you can simply click the "Follow" button. No need to add a reply in order to do so.

    • Hulagn1971
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      pkadare I know. I just like to be vocal.
  • randy56
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    • Aug 2017
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    • Newburgh In

    #3
    X2 never SV a brisket, but ready to do one.

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    • GolfGeezer
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      • May 2019
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      #4
      On another forum, a member there Sv’s briskets all the time. 132 for 48 to 54 hours. Chill, then smoke to 135-140 IT. I also think there is a long thread on SVQ on this forum. Sorry I do not recall his handle exactly - polar77? Maybe polarbear777.
      Last edited by GolfGeezer; May 16, 2020, 07:12 PM.

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      • Ahumadora
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        Cooking it Monday morning, so don't have 48 hours. Argentines would freak out if it had the slightest bit of pink showing....
    • rickgregory
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      • Aug 2014
      • 1300
      • Seattle, WA

      #5
      I don't see the point (so to speak) if you're taking it to 200ish. SV is so you can break down the collagen at lower temps because you want to smoke it only to medium or so.

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      • Ahumadora
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        Plan on smoking from cold to about 150f or has color. So I can show the catering the can get away with a quick smoke
    • shify
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      • Jun 2017
      • 572
      • Westchester County, NY

      #6
      I’ve done 155 for 24 hrs, then shock. Finish by smoking around 3 hrs til I get a good bark and brisket is at serving temp. That gives you a good texture that’s similar to a traditional smoked brisket

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      • Polarbear777
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        • Sep 2016
        • 1967

        #7
        Clint does 155F for 30 hours, which seems like it would fit your application and timeline. I’ve had better luck on my cooker with a 350F finish vs 225F but either will work. I’m usually running no higher than 135F internal at any point but that takes 48-72 hours in the SV to tenderize.

        https://amazingribs.com/tested-recip...brisket-recipe

        Consider adding a “fat flash” right before slicing. You can render and use the trim fat.

        https://www.seriouseats.com/2017/03/...sh-method.html

        the long way (for reference):

        https://pitmaster.amazingribs.com/fo...t-step-by-step


        https://pitmaster.amazingribs.com/fo...trami%E2%80%9D




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        • Ahumadora
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          Thank Polarbear..
      • mountainsmoker
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        • Jun 2019
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        • Bryson City, NC

        #8
        I see no reason to SV a brisket for 24-30 hours or longer when you can have a perfectly cooked one at 275 for 12 hours. I want dinner on time not having to wait a day or twol
        Last edited by mountainsmoker; May 16, 2020, 09:52 PM.

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        • Ahumadora
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          Catering are paying staff and do not have all day to tend a pit for 12 hours. I am showing them other options.

        • Troutman
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          From a guy who knew nothing about SV.....
      • Jerod Broussard
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        #9
        Originally posted by shify View Post
        I’ve done 155 for 24 hrs, then shock. Finish by smoking around 3 hrs til I get a good bark and brisket is at serving temp. That gives you a good texture that’s similar to a traditional smoked brisket
        Ditto, you want the 155-F or 68.5-C texture

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        • texastweeter
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          • Jul 2017
          • 2932
          • Republic of Texas

          #10
          Yeah, 225° until probe tender...traitor...

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          • Jerod Broussard
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            I think it's 425-F for him until probe tender.

          • Ahumadora
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            Yep Who cooks at 225F anymore? That's so 80's
        • Potkettleblack
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          #11
          155-24-36h or if you want to really push the envelope, maybe 185 for 12h or 24h.

          brisket isn’t short rib, but it has similar issues (collagen density), so use this as a guide to what to expect. Always use the pinch test. It keeps you from being a pinche hombre.

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          • Ahumadora
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            Thanks very much.
        • PuraLena
          Club Member
          • Jul 2017
          • 116
          • Madrid, Spain

          #12
          Never thought of SV for large meats. Thanks for raising my curiosity on RV cooking. Until now, careless of the reviews, I have stuck on traditional smoking. And planned to hold on to artisanal cooking. So following any info.

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          • BackyardBart
            Club Member
            • May 2020
            • 5
            • Amsterdam, the Netherlands

            #13
            Stumbled on this post as I am researching SV brisket atm.. Kenji @ Seriouseats has done some serious testing:

            https://www.seriouseats.com/2016/08/...q-brisket.html

            just ignore the especially blasphemous 'liquid smoke' paragraph

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            • pknj
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              Second that! A good guide. Without the liquid smoke!

            • Troutman
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              +3 on the Kenji times, I've always gone by those. Throw in that I cooked my 131* for 52 hours and got amazing results, but I know you're going for traditional finish.
          • BackyardBart
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            • May 2020
            • 5
            • Amsterdam, the Netherlands

            #14
            New to the forums, so I hope am not hijacking this post, but it seems like a good update so i'm just gonna go for it.

            I've done a brisket ear before (about 3 kgs) 'the right way' recently,but I was still getting used to my first proper grill and had difficulty keeping the temp low enough. I ended up reaching core temp too early due to the high temp.

            All the guests were nice enough to give compliments, but i cooked it too high and not nearly slow enough, so 6 hours resulted in a good bark but also somewhat dry beef.

            I'm having 12 people over next friday, but because I work in the hospital (and it's kinda busy right now) am going for a SV cook. I've been using sous vide since long before I was BBQ'ing, so I'm alright with the shame. My favourite Dutch meat supplier had a 5 kg USA grain fed brisket in stock, so if it won't taste good it's because I'd have mucked it up. I'm not sure if it's just a flat with no point, but will update y'all on that when it arrives.

            I will be using meathead's big bad beef rub (as before), but maybe cut down on the black pepper for a bit b/c it was quite 'hot' last time around (but that could also be due to the beef being physically small then, being a brisket ear 'n all and I couldn't be bothered with weighing precisely).

            i'm gonna try for 24 to 36 h of 155°F (68°C) sous vide, then freeze as fast as I can with an ice bath and then -20 C freezer, and then 3 to 4 hours of smoke (drunken chunks oaken ex-whisky barrel) at low temp. I will try to keep notes and update this (but my best friends will be joining and as expierence has taught me, notes tend to get less detailled near the end of the cook).


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            • rickgregory
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              why freeze it?

            • BackyardBart
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              you're right, that's only necessary if there's some time between sous vide and smoking

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