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  • TheCountofQ
    Former Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 503
    • Tulsa, Oklahoma

    Anova question.

    Is the wifi version also Bluetooth, or is it a one or the other thing?

    Also, the website is pretty clear that the Bluetooth model can be operated without the app and Bluetooth connectivity. It is much less clear that the wifi model will operate without being connected to a wifi connection. Will it?

  • Huskee
    Pit Boss
    • May 2014
    • 15051
    • central MI, USA
    • Follow me on Instagram, huskeesbarbecue

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      • Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
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      • Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
      • Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (black)
      • Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
      • Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
      • Brinkmann cabinet charcoal smoker (repurposed)

      Thermometers
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      • ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well

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      • Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
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      • Wine: Red- big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
      • Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, Eagle Rare, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig, Basil Hayden's. Neat please.
      • Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.

      About me
      Real name: Aaron
      Location: Farwell, Michigan- near Clare. (dead center of lower peninsula)

      Occupation:
      • Healthcare- Licensed & Registered Respiratory Therapist (RRT) for MidMichigan Health, a University of Michigan Health System.

    #2
    They have a BT only (800W) and a 'both' (900W). Amazon currently shows them at ~$143 and ~$199, respectively.

    While I don't currently own either, it stands to reason WiFi, like BT, is an extra feature that you don't have to use, it's just there.

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    • TheCountofQ
      Former Member
      • Apr 2015
      • 503
      • Tulsa, Oklahoma

      #3

      Yes, in my mind, I would agree. Have been burned with various past purchases by only reading what ads do say, and not noticing what they DON'T say. Just want to be sure...

      The Wi-Fi version on the anova website only shows the wifi emblem, and not the Bluetooth. I've seen both of them on it before also. Both would be great, but the need to not have either is an absolute requirement for me.

      Does AR have a link that gets ya'll a few pennies for the purchase of the "both" model, provided I decide to purchase?

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      • TheCountofQ
        TheCountofQ commented
        Editing a comment
        duh,.... I found the tinyurl. Good thing it wasn't a snake.

      • Sierraslick
        Sierraslick commented
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        I have the blue tooth model. It heats 9 quarts of hot tap water (111-113 degrees) to 145 in less than 20 minutes and has cooked veggies to flank steak beautifully. I may use the BT to start it but more often I fill it, turn it on at the unit and monitor the timer and temp from my lounge chair.

      • TheCountofQ
        TheCountofQ commented
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        Sierraslick Thanks!!
    • MBMorgan
      Club Member
      • Sep 2015
      • 6194
      • Colorado
      • > Weber Genesis EP-330
        > Grilla Grills Original Grilla (OG) pellet smoker
        > Pit Barrel Cooker (gone to a new home)
        > WeberQ 2000 (on "loan" to a relative)
        > Old Smokey Electric (for chickens mostly - when it's too nasty out
        to fiddle with a more capable cooker)
        > Luhr Jensen Little Chief Electric - Top Loader circa 1990 (smoked fish & jerky)
        > Thermoworks Smoke
        > 3 Thermoworks Chef Alarms
        > Thermoworks Thermapen
        > Thermoworks IR-GUN-S
        > Anova sous vide circulator
        > Searzall torch
        > BBQ Guru Rib Ring

        > Favorite Beer: Guinness Extra Stout, Fat Tire, Anchor Steam, or Alaskan Amber
        > Favorite Wine: Klinker Brick Old Ghost Zinfandel or Matetic Corralillo Winemaker's Blend
        > Favorite Whiskey: Balvenie Double Wood Scotch or Jameson Irish

      #4
      Huskee is correct ... BT and WiFi can be nice to have but with the Anova you don't have to use either one. I have had the BT/WiFi version for nearly a year and use it frequently. I bought it primarily because of the extra wattage (900W vs. 800W in the BT-only circulator). Once in a while (surprisingly at first), I actually do find myself using WiFi with the Anova app for iOS ... usually when we are downstairs streaming something dubious on NetFlix and I'm feeling too lazy (or engrossed in the program) to walk all the way upstairs to the kitchen to check on it. Bottom line: I always start it manually, shut it down manually, and have the option of monitoring the temp (and adjusting it if needed) remotely using WiFi should I need to.

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      • TheCountofQ
        TheCountofQ commented
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        Thanks!!
    • Huskee
      Pit Boss
      • May 2014
      • 15051
      • central MI, USA
      • Follow me on Instagram, huskeesbarbecue

        Want a free bottle of whiskey? Check out my link to Flaviar.com, you join with it, we both get a $50 bottle free.

        Smokers / Grills
        • Yoder loaded Wichita offset smoker
        • PBC
        • Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
        • Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
        • Dyna-Glo XL Premium dual chamber charcoal grill
        • Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
        • Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (black)
        • Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
        • Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
        • Brinkmann cabinet charcoal smoker (repurposed)

        Thermometers
        • (3) Maverick XR-50: 4-probe Wireless Thermometers
        • (7) Maverick ET-732s
        • (1) Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
        • (1) Smoke by ThermoWorks
        • (1) Signals by ThermoWorks
        • Thermapen MkII, orange
        • ThermoPop, yellow
        • ThermoWorks ChefAlarm
        • Morpilot 6-probe wireless
        • ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
        • ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well

        Accessories
        • Instant Pot 6qt
        • Anova Bluetooth SV
        • Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
        • Kindling Cracker King (XL)
        • BBQ Dragon
        • Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
        • Weber grill topper
        • Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
        • Drip 'N Griddle Pan, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by ABCbarbecue
        • Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter

        Beverages
        • Favorite summer beer: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold
        • Fav other beer: DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
        • Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
        • Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
        • Wine: Red- big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
        • Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, Eagle Rare, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig, Basil Hayden's. Neat please.
        • Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.

        About me
        Real name: Aaron
        Location: Farwell, Michigan- near Clare. (dead center of lower peninsula)

        Occupation:
        • Healthcare- Licensed & Registered Respiratory Therapist (RRT) for MidMichigan Health, a University of Michigan Health System.

      #5
      FWIW here's the AR link for the 'both' version: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HHWSV1S/?tag=amazi0a8-20
      And a correction to my other post, the BT only version is currently ~$143, not 150, and it's here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UKPBXM4/?tag=amazi0a8-20

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      • TheCountofQ
        TheCountofQ commented
        Editing a comment
        Sold, based on comment #4. Used the tinyurl link to the right side of the page. Happy (way belated) Birthday to me... along with a vacmaster 380. I think I'll get a lot of use from the VM, less from Anova, but see value in learning to use it.

      • Huskee
        Huskee commented
        Editing a comment
        Thank you for using the tinyurl link TheCountofQ, much appreciated by all who work behind the scenes here at AR! Look forward to your review and pictures!
    • DeusDingo
      Founding Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 1141
      • Madison, WI
      • Weber Q320 grill
        Masterbuilt Propane Smoker
        Maverick and thermo Pen thermometers

      #6
      if i've learned anything from our marketing department it's that if it's a feature that can sell a unit it will be noted. if it doesn't say bluetooth then it won't have bluetooth. marketing doesn't forget to leave off features.

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      • TheCountofQ
        TheCountofQ commented
        Editing a comment
        The amazon link definitely stated "BOTH", and I do agree with you about marketing. "Half truths" or "implications as a misrepresentation" is a real sore spot for me!!
    • David C
      Founding Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 99
      • Bay Area, California
      • Cookers:
        Memphis Advantage w. Searing insert option
        Bradley 6-rack digital
        Thermal bath for sous vide, pressure cooker, etc.

        Time & Temp:
        iGrill2 & iGrill wireless thermometers used with iPhone 5
        Drawer full of various Maverick models

        BBQ Interests:
        Love smoking ribs, pulled pork, salmon, sablefish, rib roasts, sausages, lox, beef ribs, and brisket when I can -- strictly for friends, fun, etc.

        Websites:
        http://www.cardinalphoto.com
        http://www.sousvide.org

      #7
      I already have a small, pro-quality, sous-vide bath, so I wanted an immersion circulator for larger cuts of meat (like brisket). As a result, I went for the 1200w Gourmia GSV150, to get a little more power for a similar price ($120, I think). It can connect to the internet so I can control it from anywhere with the app. Frankly I mostly don't care about that, except that if something goes wrong, you can at least see it remotely. I haven't used it for a brisket yet, but in test runs on smaller loads it's been great so far.

      I don't think it has BT, so I guess if you wanted to remote control it someplace without Wi-Fi, that would be a problem, but it works fine connected to our router at home over Wi-Fi. And of course, you can control it completely with the buttons and dial, so the connectivity is strictly optional.

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      • TheCountofQ
        TheCountofQ commented
        Editing a comment
        I was unaware of that one. All my knowledge of SV comes from here, and it seems Anova and Joule are the popular models. I want the independence, in case I take it to the parents lake house. Hate using other's Wi-Fi, even it is mom & dad!! Murphy's law = my phone's battery would be dead, & no BT app.
    • David C
      Founding Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 99
      • Bay Area, California
      • Cookers:
        Memphis Advantage w. Searing insert option
        Bradley 6-rack digital
        Thermal bath for sous vide, pressure cooker, etc.

        Time & Temp:
        iGrill2 & iGrill wireless thermometers used with iPhone 5
        Drawer full of various Maverick models

        BBQ Interests:
        Love smoking ribs, pulled pork, salmon, sablefish, rib roasts, sausages, lox, beef ribs, and brisket when I can -- strictly for friends, fun, etc.

        Websites:
        http://www.cardinalphoto.com
        http://www.sousvide.org

      #8
      Anova is great, and perhaps pioneered the EZ, design-forward, circulator (I first saw one at their launch at CES several years ago). But I think you pay something extra for the brand name at this point.

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      • Atalanta
        Club Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 431
        • Barnsley's Ford
        • Grills: 22" Weber (wood handles) (another Weber on the way), Lodge Sportsman "hibachi"
          Smoker: None yet, part of why I joined
          Thermometer: 10+ yr old Taylor digital thermometer with remote
          Sous Vide: Anovo Imersion Circulator (1st gen)
          Coffee Roaster: Hot Top Coffee Roaster
          Adult Beverages: Fighting Cock Bourbon, Leinny Shandy, Troegs Mad Elf

        #9
        We have an Anovo 1st gen - no wifi or bluetooth. All the controls are on the unit. BF prefers it that way. I got the Joule to try out and it's still in the box. I should give it a go before I give the other one as a gift. We've been using it for over a year now, and love it.

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        • Lowjiber
          Former Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 313
          • Las Vegas, Nevada

          #10
          I'll just add that the reason I didn't get the Joule is that it requires the use of my phone for everything. I bought the 900W Anova and simply use its onboard controls for everything. Works great.

          I'm pretty much a Techie with enough "toys" to start a Best Buy, but requiring a phone to turn on/off a heater is downright insane.

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          • Skip
            Skip commented
            Editing a comment
            Same reason I went with the Anova.
        • josht138
          Charter Member
          • May 2015
          • 213
          • Marietta, GA (Greater Atlanta)
          • Weber Genesis E-330 (AKA Big Paperweight)
            22" Weber Kettle Premium
            26" Weber Kettle One Touch
            Slow 'N Sear
            Weber Smokey Mountain 18.5" (pre-2008)
            Anova Sous Vide
            (2) Maverick ET-733s
            Thermapen MK4

          #11
          lLowjiber I am with you on the Joule. However, I think the reason they went with phone controls was to keep it small. No screen and no controls keeps the profile much smaller than all of the other circulators. I have an Anova too, but it takes quite a while to get up to temp sometimes. Sometimes I wish I had the extra 200 W with the Joule, but that's more a product of being a gadget junky myself than actually needing it.

          I have the wifi/BT model and never use either anymore.

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          • Lowjiber
            Lowjiber commented
            Editing a comment
            I have 123 degree water outta the tap, and the 900w brings the water up to 131 deg pretty quickly. Usually, if I start the Anova first off, it's ready by the time I get a couple of ribeyes trimmed, bagged, and ready.

            If I had it to do over again, I'd still buy the 900 watt Anova over the Joule.

          • Lowjiber
            Lowjiber commented
            Editing a comment
            One more comment...

            I was using a large metal pan for my water bath, which likely was sinking some of the heat from my water. I bought one of those "plastic" Sous Vide "pans" with a cover. The plastic is a lousy conductor of heat, and that likely helps with the initial temp ramp-up too.

          • EdF
            EdF commented
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            @Ilowjiber That "up to temp" when you're done prepping is my experience too. I like it!

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