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Grills: 22" Weber (wood handles) (another Weber on the way), Lodge Sportsman "hibachi"
Smoker: None yet, part of why I joined
Thermometer: 10+ yr old Taylor digital thermometer with remote
Sous Vide: Anovo Imersion Circulator (1st gen)
Coffee Roaster: Hot Top Coffee Roaster
Adult Beverages: Fighting Cock Bourbon, Leinny Shandy, Troegs Mad Elf
I picked up a 22" on CL in blue. One of the mods I did was add an ash catcher. Since it was used and a little skungy (I have a post on the rehab), I got the hinged grate. A SNS+ came from Santa and I got BF the DnG for his (which I plan to borrow). I'm thinking about adding the grill grate from ABC BBQ, but I need to do some smoking and grilling first.
You're gonna love it. I would have stuck with the bronze.
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First, I screwed up the fuel. I set this up for a Low N Slow. What I should have done was light about 20 coals in the chimney and dump them in the SnS. Caught my mistake and lit more coals. Just wasted time. So I was messing with the temp and the steaks came up to to 120 WAY before I was ready. So I took them off and got my Searing coals ready to go. Put them in and kept on chugging....The final result was slightly overcooked at Medium Well. (We actually cook to Medium....blame it on my Wife) But the final result was also the MOST Succulent, moist, medium well steak I have ever eaten. So there is a LOT to build on....
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Your mistake looks like you tried to do a reverse sear on a 1" steak. That will give you an overcooked steak everytime. Next time try 1 1/2" or 2" steaks and you will find it much easier to get a really nice crust with the interior pink bumper to bumper.👍
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PJBowmaster ... you only need to light a few coals to get your cooking temperature up to 225/250°. I guess 15 or 20 briquets will do that. Then I fill up the briquet basket in the SnS with unlit coals. Let your steaks bake until they reach 115° and then remove the lid, cover your steaks with aluminum foil, and hit your briquet basket with your BBQ Dragon and you will have Warp 10 searing coals in less than 2 minutes. Slide your steaks over with tongs and sear them.👍
Picture of BBQ Dragon...👍
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Founding Member & Pit Barrel Cooker Queen
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My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron GriddleGrill Grate for SnSGrill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:Extreme BBQ Thermometer PackagePit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:Thermapen MK4 (pink)Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
PJBowmaster , I love the look of new BBQ toys in the morning (to paraphrase that Apocalypse Now line).
. Enjoy getting those bright shiny things dirty! Thanks for the photos.
Kathryn
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Founding Member & Pit Barrel Cooker Queen
- Jul 2014
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My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron GriddleGrill Grate for SnSGrill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:Extreme BBQ Thermometer PackagePit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:Thermapen MK4 (pink)Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
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- May 2014
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- Charlotte, NC
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- Slow 'N Sear Kamado
- Slow 'N Sear Kettle
- Lots of grills that work with Slow 'N Sear
- LOTS of digital thermometers
- LOTS of accessories
- Favorite Beer - Fat Tire
- Favorite Bourbon - Woodford Reserve
- Favorite White Wine - Cakebread Chardonnay
- Favorite Red Wine - Yes, Please
- President/Owner - SnS Grills
PJBowmaster whenever you go to cook something check out the recipe on our website that most closely mirrors what you're cooking. You don't necessarily have to follow the recipe (though you're welcome to do so), but what you'll find is that we detail which lighting method to use, which will help you while you're figuring things out. In the steak recipe, for example, we mention the front sear would have worked for those thin steaks you were cooking. We also mention when reverse searing to start off with about 20 coals for the low and slow phase of the cook.
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Hey Guys, just a quick follow-up. I'm having a hard time holding heat in my kettle. Yesterday I cooked bone-in, skin-on, chicken thighs. I followed the instructions for a "Hot & Fast, 325 degrees" cook. I started with a little over 3/4 chimney of KBB. Waited until they were well lit with little smoke and heat waves visible. Then dumped them into the Slow N Sear. Spread evenly. Both vents wide open. Lid closed tight with binder clips. The temp quickly came up to about 360 degrees so I adjusted the bottom vent to about 1/4 and the top vent to about 1/3. The temp dropped to about 325 and held there for about 20 minutes or so. After that the temp started dropping. It finally settled at about 270 degrees. My chicken took about 1 1/2 hours to reach 170 degrees internal. I would normally let it rise to 180 f on thighs. But we couldn't wail any longer. At that point we seared them over direct heat to add color and crisp up the skin. The result was very good chicken. But I'm a bit frustrated that I can't seem to figure out this temp control thing. Pit temp was measured at the grate with my SMOKE TM Thermometer. Internal meat temp was monitored using the SMOKE TM with Needle Probe. Any thoughts? Ideas? Advice?
Thanks, PJ
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- May 2014
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- Clare, Michigan area
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Smokers / Grills- Yoder loaded Wichita offset smoker
- PBC
- Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
- Slow 'N Sear Master Kettle (cart-mounted)
- Slow 'N Sear Travel Kettle
- Masterbuilt Gravity 560
- Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
- Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (light blue)
- Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
- Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
- Traeger Flatrock Griddle
Thermometers- SnS 500 4-probe wireless
- (3) Maverick XR-50 4-probe Wireless Thermometers
- A few straggler Maverick ET-732s
- Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
- Smoke X4 by ThermoWorks
- Thermapen MkII, orange & purple
- ThermoPop, yellow, plus a few more in a drawer for gifts
- ThermoWorks ChefAlarm (wife's)
- Morpilot 6-probe wireless
- ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
- ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well
Accessories- Instant Pot 6qt
- Anova Bluetooth SV
- Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
- Kindling Cracker King (XL)
- a couple BBQ Dragons
- Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
- Weber grill topper
- Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
- Drip 'N Griddle Pans, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by SnSGrills
- Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter
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Personally I think it's very simple!Originally posted by PJBowmaster View PostHey Guys, just a quick follow-up. I'm having a hard time holding heat in my kettle. Yesterday I cooked bone-in, skin-on, chicken thighs. I followed the instructions for a "Hot & Fast, 325 degrees" cook. I started with a little over 3/4 chimney of KBB. Waited until they were well lit with little smoke and heat waves visible. Then dumped them into the Slow N Sear. Spread evenly. Both vents wide open. Lid closed tight with binder clips. The temp quickly came up to about 360 degrees so I adjusted the bottom vent to about 1/4 and the top vent to about 1/3. The temp dropped to about 325 and held there for about 20 minutes or so. After that the temp started dropping. It finally settled at about 270 degrees. My chicken took about 1 1/2 hours to reach 170 degrees internal. I would normally let it rise to 180 f on thighs. But we couldn't wail any longer. At that point we seared them over direct heat to add color and crisp up the skin. The result was very good chicken. But I'm a bit frustrated that I can't seem to figure out this temp control thing. Pit temp was measured at the grate with my SMOKE TM Thermometer. Internal meat temp was monitored using the SMOKE TM with Needle Probe. Any thoughts? Ideas? Advice?
Thanks, PJ
Methinks you may have waited a wee bit too long to dump them in is all. Remember, a measured amount of charcoal has a measured amount of heat & longevity (total energy). The longer it burns up into the atmosphere in the chimney, it has less burn time in the kettle. The trick is just a time or 3 of doing it, and learning when to dump the coals and start cooking. You need to keep an eye on it at the 10-12 min mark (maybe 14 or 15 depending how full) and once that smoke begins lessening, dump it in and go. An easy mistake to make is getting sidetracked and letting it burn too long in the chimney. Never fear, next time's the charm! But, also crank your vents WIDE open next time if the temp starts to dip <325, and even add another handful or two of briquets to be safe.
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Like your advice about going wide open if I start losing heat. That would indicate for sure vent set-up was wrong.
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personally I think thighs can take all you can throw at 'em, like you say 180. Regarding cook temp too, 325 min but all the way to 400 (although shrinking skin may be an issue if that matters), so don't be shy about opening the vents. Obviously you get less longevity but that's probably more than obvious.
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I can afford the Charcoal. So I won't be afraid to add more fuel to the fire. Again, I do appreciate the feedback! This is a learning process for me having not cooked on charcoal for over 30 years. And back then I didn't know anything....LOL
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To your point about longevity. I may try the Extended Hot and Fast set up recommended by Adrenaline Barbecue for Turkey cooks. If I have left over coals that's no big deal...
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Primo Oval xl
Slow n Sear (two)
Drip n Griddle
22" Weber Kettle
26" Weber Kettle one touch
Blackstone 36†Pro Series
Sous vide machine
Kitchen Aid
Meat grinder
sausage stuffer
5 Crock Pots
Akootrimonts
Two chimneys (was 3 but rivets finally popped, down to 1)
cast iron pans,
Dutch ovens
Signals 4 probe, thermapens, chef alarms, Dots, thermapop and maverick T-732, RTC-600, pro needle and various pocket instareads.
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Hey buddy. I am new to the SNS and have used it about 9 times in two weeks or so. I have a 22" and a 26" kettle which I love. I'm a total homer for the kettles. A couple of observations from my recent experience. (My family is tiered of BBQ for a bit)
The SNS will burn hot as it consumes the oxygen then it will settle back down. From there make your vent adjustments as it on its way down and passes you desired temp. Because adjusting is not instantaneous it will save the initial coal. That helps stabilize the cook. Don't wait for it to stabilize before adjusting, especially if its way passing your desired temp.
if you are cooking a "forgiving food" get it on the grill sooner rather then later.
Every time you pull the lid up you will get one of the temp fluctuations "specific" to the SnS.
I light about 10-12 Coals and bank them as you did. The I fill the rest with unlit coals. Though the first hour was temp control I dialed it in between 228 and 240 easily. It just took much longer then I expected to get it right. Then it just hummed along.
i have found that the SnS has become quite predictable and that's the glory of it. You will be able to make adjustments to where you want to be,
you coukd do dry dry runs but you may as well put some forgiving food on the grill while you get used to the thing.
Also on the chuck eye, you ate it as a steak when most of the pit people I've seen done it as a pulled meat up to the 200's temps, low n slow. I get the chuck eye and it seems like you were on your way to fabulous and then decided to eat it.
it looked really tasty, one wouldn't have guessed you didn't care for that cook.
to sum it up. It just a minute to figure it. It takes longer then you think. Then it's predictable and you are in the sweet spot.
i hope this helps. I'm am sorry for the long post.
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Smokers / Grills- Weber 22" Original Kettle (black) modified for Party-Q
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My last two chicken thigh cooks I've used 3/4 chimney and run the vents full open. Cooking temps were +400F and the chicken was amazing!
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