Ok, not exactly a Weber topic, but I suspect there are some GrillGrates users here.
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LSG Adjustable Grill/Smoker, MAK Pellet Grill, Large BGE with Several Attachments from the Ceramic Grill Store, Weber Gasser, Cast Iron Pans & Griddle, Grill Grates, Mostly Thermoworks Thermometers, Anova SV Stick, BBQ Guru Controller and Fan
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Gear includes: Char-Griller's Grand Champ off set stick burner/smoker, SnS Kamado Deluxe, Weber 22, PBC, Victory gasser, Victory 36 griddle, Smoke Hollow electric smoker. ThermoWorks Thermapen Mk4, Smoke, Signals, and RFX4, Meater+, SNS-500, roti fits 22 n gasser, Emeril countertop TO, InkBird Sous Vide, Potane Vac/Sealer. Fire&Ice griddle/cooler ensemble.
Just got into charcoal Dec ‘21 (PBC)
fav is brisky. Love Turkey on PBC. also Turkey in the glass,(any nice bourbon)
Bud has always been my barley pop.
Been smoking a handful of years, just got serious in the last two or three years. Thanks to AR n @glemn picked up an SnS Kamado for appx 1/3 price of new. I dont think he used it twice. Love AR! keep calm n smoke on! Miss you Bonesy.
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Dishwasher detergent and high temps will strip the protective anodizing finish off the aluminum…. It’s a chemical reaction. Might be safe if you don’t use the detergent. Not sure about the rinse argent that is in a compartment in my dishwasher door…
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Thanks all. I was unaware. I will be better from now on. See, that is why I love this place!
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Pit Boss Copperhead 5 vertical pellet smoker
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Cookbooks: Meathead; Food Lab (Alt-Lopez); Salt Fat Acid Heat (Nosrat)
...and a partridge in a pear treeeeeeeeeee...
I have yet to deep clean my GrillGrates. Also a minimalist, scrape them down while hot, vacuum out the between-grate material every so often (while cold of course!).
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I mostly use balled up aluminum foil. I also mostly cook on the flat side, but the foil works great on either side. Every once in awhile, I will place them into a tub with Simple Green cleaning solution. Let them soak for a number of hours and then wash/scrub clean.
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Thanks to all for the responses! I've been running my 5-panel setup with the left three rails-up, and the right two flat-up over the sear burner.
With everyone here running all flat-up plus the total PITA process of getting all the accumulation out of the valleys on the rails-up panels I may go all flats when I put them back.
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I don't know, may be getting tired of my grill grates. If you don't get them really clean in the valleys you can get small black residue chips on your food. The valleys are a pain to clean. I'll try my standard grate for a while and see if I miss them. I have a griddle so turning them over doesn't matter.
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My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron GriddleGrill Grate for SnSGrill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:Extreme BBQ Thermometer PackagePit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:Thermapen MK4 (pink)Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
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I easily clean the valleys each time I use my Grill Grates valley side up. I set them up much like you do, outta_ammo , with 2-3 flat sections on one end and 3-4 grate up (valley) sections on the other side. (I have 6 pieces on my gasser)
After I remove the food, I crank all the burners to high for 20-25 minutes. That gets almost everything turned to ash. Then I turn all the burners off, and put on my super duper (1200°indirect/900°direct) High Temp Heat Resistant Gloves. I use a wadded-up ball of aluminum foil on the flat sections. I take a second ball of aluminum foil and shape a thick edge along the side of the wad, so that it slides easily in the troughs (valleys) and that's what I clean the grates-up (valley) sections with. It only takes a couple of minutes and the grates are residue-free. When completely cool the next day, I take them in to the laundry room sink and wash with soap/water. A lot of black powdery stuff comes off of those GGs that look "clean" after the aluminum foil treatment.
I like using grates side (valley side) up especially for chicken where I want dark sear lines for flavor but not the whole surface of the chicken blackened, mostly when grilling marinated or bbq-sauced chicken pieces. And I like grates up on the cool side of the grill (2-zone setup) during the first step of reverse-searing steaks.
KathrynLast edited by fzxdoc; November 8, 2023, 08:34 AM.
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Yes, yakima , I like the grate (valley) side (as opposed to the flat side) up on GGs when cooking chicken pieces and for the first part of reverse searing steaks when they're hibernating on the cooler side of the grill, coming up to temp before I can sear them off on the hot side of the grill on GGs with the flat side up. I just edited that post accordingly. Thanks for helping me to clarify my meaning.
K.Last edited by fzxdoc; November 7, 2023, 07:05 AM.
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Cookers- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (2021)
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- Weber Performer Deluxe 22.5" w/ GrillGrates & Slow 'N Sear & Drip N Griddle & Vortex & Party Q & Rotisserie (2007)
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- Thermoworks RT600C
- Weber Connect
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I kinda go back and forth in my love/hate for Grillgrates, as they do have a tendency to accumulate crap in the valleys. My normal routine is preheat the grill on high for a few minutes, then brush from front to back, then shovel any remnants out of the valleys using the "Grate tool" spatula, again from front to back. Then finally I'll take a big wad of paper towels lightly oiled, and wipe any residue off the tops of the rails before the food hits the grill.
I find it also easy to pull them off when cool, take them inside to the sink, and rinse/wash any debris off, using a brush that can get down in the grooves.
Is it as easy as cleaning the stock cast iron grates on my Genesis? Probably not. However, I do find keeping STAINLESS grates looking nice and shiny is as much or likely MORE work than keeping a set of Grillgrates clean. I just spent the better part of a lunch hour last week scrubbing my Easyspin and elevated grates for my SNS Deluxe Kamado, and they still don't look as good as I would like. Lots of blackened sooty areas that won't come clean without a lot more work than I have time to put in. And that was after running them through the dishwasher on a pot scrubber cycle, THEN working on them with Brillo pads and soap for another hour.
The payoff with Grillgrates, for me, is in cooking things like bone in chicken (wings, legs, thighs, split chickens, etc), using DIRECT one zone cooking, without worrying about flareups. I cook those type items on the rail side of Grillgrates, and feel that the vaporizing drippings from the valleys also help improve the flavor of grilled items. I even have a set for my Weber kettle, and use those to do full grill one zone direct grilling over charcoal, without worry about flareups.
I have a dedicated griddle, so really don't use the flat side of Grillgrates often anymore, but once that was my goto for smash burgers.
I've got the 4 burner Genesis, and keep 1 of the Weber cast iron grates in most of the time for use with things like skillets or dutch ovens, and then keep 4 Grillgrate panel plus a gap panel covering the area the other 2 Weber grates would cover. The full grill requires 6 panels plus the gap. But the grates and panels I'm not using are always on the shelf under the grill for quick access.
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Club Member
- Nov 2017
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- Huntsville, Alabama
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Jim Morris
Cookers- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (2021)
- Camp Chef FTG900 Flat Top Grill (2020)
- Weber Genesis II E-410 w/ GrillGrates (2019)
- Weber Performer Deluxe 22.5" w/ GrillGrates & Slow 'N Sear & Drip N Griddle & Vortex & Party Q & Rotisserie (2007)
- Thermoworks Smoke w/ Wifi Gateway
- Thermoworks Dot
- Thermoworks Thermapen ONE & Classic
- Thermoworks RT600C
- Weber Connect
- Whatever I brewed and have on tap! See it here: https://taplist.io/taplist-57685
You know, there is not a LOT of difference between Grillgrates and the Charbroil "Tru-Infrared" grilling system, except that the Charbroil system puts the food just above the "emitter" plate on a regular cooking grate. I would imagine that those grills accumulate a LOT of burned crap on the emitter plates that requires those grill owners to pull out the grates, pull out the emitter plate, and dump it and possibly wash it off.
Just thought about that and pondered that ALL grills require cleaning. Grillgrates just put the accumulation of debris at the top of the grill, rather than farther down. I find with them in the gas grill, that I rarely ever need to break things down and scrape the flavorizer bars or interior of the grill down, like I had to do several times a year without Grillgrates on the gas grill.
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I bought some table busser trays from Sam's Club. When I need to deep clean the grates for my Primo, Weber kettle, or gasser I just put the stuff in the tray, add enough water to cover them up, then dump in some degreaser and let them soak. Then when the water turns black, I take the wire brush to them to knock off whatever is still stuck on, give them a couple dips, then rinse them off with the hose.
The only thing to really be careful with is the cleaner you use. Read the use instructions on the label CAREFULLY. If your grates are aluminum and the cleaner says "do not use on aluminum" then that is not the right cleaner for you. In my case all my grates are either stainless steel (Napoleon gasser and Weber kettle) or coated steel (Primo). So I can use just about anything. I find caustic cleaners work the best. If or when the Primo grates start to have a rust problem (so far they are fine, I bought the thing in 2016) I will replace them with stainless steel. But for now, it ain't broke so I am not attempting to fix it
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Simple green works very well and has no corrosive impact.
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Yeah - that warning about caustic cleaners and aluminum is why Grillgrates says to NOT put them in a dishwasher. Most dishwasher detergent has caustic agents that tear up aluminum. I kinda screwed up a couple of my grandmas old aluminum pots years ago by putting them in the dishwasher. Ate all the surface anodizing off and discolored the metal, and they had to be re-seasoned, but were never the same.
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Founding Member & Pit Barrel Cooker Queen
- Jul 2014
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My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron GriddleGrill Grate for SnSGrill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:Extreme BBQ Thermometer PackagePit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:Thermapen MK4 (pink)Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
Originally posted by jfmorris View PostHowever, I do find keeping STAINLESS grates looking nice and shiny is as much or likely MORE work than keeping a set of Grillgrates clean. I just spent the better part of a lunch hour last week scrubbing my Easyspin and elevated grates for my SNS Deluxe Kamado, and they still don't look as good as I would like. Lots of blackened sooty areas that won't come clean without a lot more work than I have time to put in. And that was after running them through the dishwasher on a pot scrubber cycle, THEN working on them with Brillo pads and soap for another hour.
I absolutely hate cleaning kettle SS grates. I use SOS pads after a grate soak, but they are never pristine after the first cook.
KathrynLast edited by fzxdoc; November 7, 2023, 10:16 AM.
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Over the years, I’ve bought a few of the cleaning tools that GrillGrate sells. I still use the metal coiled brush type tool for the valleys. A sharp straight scraper used as a spatula works on the flat side. I’m too busy or lazy so I don’t usually wash them. However, I am intrigued to try the aluminum foil technique with the next day wash up in the slop sink before it gets too cold here.
I am a big fan of GrillGrates on my Weber genesis
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