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    Hello from Souther California!

    Hi All,

    I'm new to this part of the US and also to outdoor cooking in general. I'm a physician, just finished my fifth year of post-graduate training and have moved to this area to start work and become a new home-owner. This is a second career, so I'm a bit more seasoned that most new physicians, but grilling is a brand new hobby for me.

    I was very pleased to have found this website a couple of months back, when I decided that now that I actually have a yard, I'd like to finally learn to grill! Like any physician, I did my research and learned a lot prior to selecting my equipment. I am very grateful for all the knowledge available here. My sincere thanks to all involved.

    I went for versatility and affordability to start with, and I'm kind of old school, so I went with charcoal; a Weber Premium 22". I follow instructions well, so I purchased a Thermapen and Smoke from Thermoworks. Then I got a little option-crazy and added on a Slow N Sear plus a drip pan.

    So I took my gear on our first maiden voyage of grilling this past weekend. My wife picked us up a 2 inch dry aged ribeye from a local butcher. In an effort for full disclosure, I really wanted to fire up the grill once or twice without food, but she had to leave town unexpectedly the next day, so my first test drive came with a bit of pressure to perform.

    I must say that even with my 15 years of higher education, my natural attention to detail, and ability to manage complex medical patients, my grill may have out-smarted me a tiny bit, at least in some respects.

    I tried like crazy to get 12 briquets of charcoal lit in the Slow N Sear, as it was my intention to start our steak off at 225 F, but my training was not up to the task. I tried both in the Slow N Sear itself, plus in my Weber chimney starter, but it wasn't happening. I think one coal started to turn grey, but it wouldn't propagate to any of the other coals. Only once I added a bunch more coals (probably around 30 total) to the chimney starter was I able to generate enough heat to get them all going. I was hoping with careful upper and lower vent management that I'd be able to slow the burn down to stay at 225, but once I passed that mark, even after I shut down all vents entirely, my grill grate thermometer peaked at about 280. I don't think the temperature had any significantly ill effects on the steak, but given the fully closed vents and containment of lots of smoke, the meat was indeed surprisingly smokey. I didn't dislike it, but it was unexpected.

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    My setup shined nicely once I switched to sear mode, and I got the Weber bi-metal thermometer spun all the way back around to zero again. The searing went well, and as you can see, the internal temp came out right where I wanted. Surprisingly, I checked on the coals the next day after I had closed all the vents again and they weren't all turned to ash.

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    If you've made it this far, I hope you'll indulge a few of my questions. How do I start just a few briquets like the Slow N Sear recommends? Do I need parafin cubes? The newspaper I used had color print on it and didn't seem to turn to dust like regular newspaper. Was that my problem? Also, I was surprised to see that once I removed the steak and thermometers and such, that my closed vents stopped the burning at some point. Any theories as to why? Were those tiny thermometer cables holding the cover open too far? Is smoke-tasting steak a natural result of indirect cooking even if I didn't put hardwood on the Slow N Sear, or is it more a result of me needing to shut down all of the vents?

    Thanks again for all the hard work in making this site, moderating this forum, and indeed putting up with this book of an introduction that I have written!

    Best Wishes
    DrNoob

    #2
    Welcome to The Pit. Next time you want to light just a few briquettes, try turning the chimney upside down. That way the charcoal will nestle down in the inside of the cone instead of spreading around the outside of the cone. The Weber lighter cubes do work very well, so give them a try.
    There is a lot of chemistry and some physics involved in smokin' and grillin', but rocket science it ain't. A little luck, artistry and maybe even a little voodoo also come into the equation at times.
    Any air that get in the cooker allows the fire to remain alive, but starving the fire can produce "bad" smoke. The ideal is a small but hot fire for more complete combustion. That will burn the bad smoke before it affects your meat. (This might be the reason for the intense smoke flavor you experienced.)
    Once the supply of oxygen is completely cut off, the fire will die. Wires still allow O to enter, so the fire will struggle along. And you can reuse the charcoal left over. It will burn a bit faster, but it will work.

    Don't hesitate to ask more questions...

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    • Mr. Bones
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      Eloquently stated, Brother!
      Take a couple o fingers Buffalo Creek outta Petty Cash!

    • DrNoob
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      Brilliant, thank you!

    #3
    Huntington Beach welcomes you Doc. Where abouts are you?

    you just needed a wax starter and/or more time to get your coals going as the SNS instructions dictate. I love your humility. I feel you brother. I get my arse handed to me all the time. Ron above is right on the oxygen thing. Es no bueno that way.

    chalk this one up to pressure. And a good meal. Do your thing you'll be just fine.

    as always pics welcome and plenty of folk always around to help out.

    and YES!!!!!! on the Weber wax starters!
    Last edited by HouseHomey; April 11, 2018, 09:23 AM. Reason: cleaning up my act

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    • DrNoob
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      Long Beach! I am psyched about all of the Long Beach Grand Prix festivities this weekend! Thanks so much for the encouragement!

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      #5
      Welcome from Indiana

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        #6
        Greetings from another So Cal cooker! Welcome.

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          #7
          Welcome to the Pit! Your post speaks well to your attention to detail.

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            #8
            Welcome, doc! Happy to have you with us. We appreciate your support.

            I agree with RonB, I find turning the chimney starter (assuming it's a Weber) upside down will enable easy lighting of a small # of coals. And yes, I'd recommend trying out Weber's starter cubes, they're cheap and they work great. One cube will sit in the concave grate (if upside down) and the coals pile nicely on top of it. The cubes last a good 10-12 min (maybe? never really timed 'em but somewhere in there), and it'll light those few coals nicely. Also piling them in the corner of your SnS in top of a cube will work nicely too.

            Your pics are beautiful! Keep up the great work!

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            • DrNoob
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              That is such an elegant solution, I can't wait to try again! Thanks very much for your guidance!

            #9
            Welcome from Colorado!

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              #10
              First off, you have no idea what "option crazy" is until you’ve been around a few more months. It is labeled MCS (more cooker syndrome, includes "stuff"). Second, it was a bloody steak for cranking a Ford. Don’t be afraid of it & you don’t have to be so fine tuned on the low & slow routine. You are not BBQing, you are grilling. I’d light a bevy of coals, cook cold side in two zone, then sear to your delight. You’ll want it at 125-130 for med-rare. Welcome aboard Doc, eat good & have fun, yes have fun!

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              • jfmorris
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                I second this. I just light enough coals to fill the SNS entirely, in the chimney, dump in the SNS and cook the steaks on the indirect side until they are close, then sear over the SNS for 1-2 minutes per side. I don’t monitor pit temp with steaks, just meat temp.

              • HouseHomey
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                jfmorris that's how I do my burgers and Carne Asada for tacos. Truthfully I generally don't have a screaming fire it's more of a "Sort of sear" or a "Sear light."
                Last edited by HouseHomey; April 11, 2018, 09:28 AM. Reason: Cleaning up my act

              • DrNoob
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                Excellent advice. I was indeed trying to manage things a little too "retentively," but since I have aspirations for cooking many more wonderful things, I wanted to be more precise. But you're right, I need to walk before I run!

              #11
              Welcome DrNoob

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                #12
                Welcome from the Bay Area.

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                  #13
                  Welcome

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                    #14
                    Howdy from Kansas territory, welcome to Th Pit!
                    So glad to have ya here, to learn along with me!

                    Jump right in, git involved, ask questions, have fun, make great food!
                    It's why we're all here!

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                    • DrNoob
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                      Thanks very much!

                    #15
                    Welcome from Hays, KS. You're not option crazy, not yet at least. Love above suggestions. Another thought would be light a whole chimney and then use tongs to move the number of hot coals you want into your slow and sear while keeping the others hot if you need/want for the searing portion of the reverse sear. Enjoy your cooker, soon, we will be saying enjoy your cookerssss. :-)

                    Sweaty Paul

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                    • DrNoob
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                      Another wonderfully elegant solution! Thank you!

                    • Sweaty Paul
                      Sweaty Paul commented
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                      What’s your specialty? I’m a Gen Surgeon.

                    • DrNoob
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                      You will be much more needed in the event of a zombie apocalypse! I'm in spinal cord injury medicine.

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