I have never been a fan of pre-mixed rubs. Most are way too salty. I keep a good supply of spices on hand and mix my own.
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I hate to see that even Meathead could not succeed in the highly competitive rub and sauce market. There are so many thousands of them out there already, that the market is simply saturated. There are more rubs and sauces on store shelves and web pages than anyone could try in a life time.
Thank you for sharing the recipes you already have with is, along with these new rub and sauce recipes!
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Is the poultry rub the same as the S&G recipe, or is there a difference?
As I noted earlier, I just recently bought and tried the poultry rub and enjoyed it, but have not yet attempted the S&G rub.
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It is important to note that our commercial rubs and sauce are all slightly different from the recipes on AmazingRibs.com.
1) We wanted them to be different so you would buy them! But the recipes are so successful we stayed close to them.
2) They contain salt because all commercial rubs contain salt.
3) The manufacturer uses ingredients that are slightly different from what you buy.
4) Some have yeast extract, natural smoke flavor, etc.
Here's how they were formulated: We sent them recipes that we tested and liked. They sent back samples. We tasted them and asked for changes, there were several rounds of changes. But as part of the contract, they never supplied us with an exact final recipe. That's their way of keeping us from going to another manufacturer. So the recipes we have on the website are close, but not exact.
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Last night I cooked up a batch of Meathead's sauce recipe to compare with what I have left of the bottled sauce. It is similar, but the raspberry flavor from the recipe is more pronounced than the bottled sauce. For the next batch I'll reduce the fruit a bit and maybe add some tamarind.
Anyone else tried the recipe yet? Working together perhaps we can reverse engineer 100% of what's in the bottle.
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MattTheGR8 I just made the sauce today. It’s close! I added the tamarind.
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SheilaAnn Thanks for the update! Do you have any suggestions for future tweaks?
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MattTheGR8 next day tasting (per advice on the recipe) was better. I also added the liquid smoke at 1/2 tsp for the batch. It was good!
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Wow... Since I first tried the rubs, I loved each of them. I always used them as a base rub and then sprinkle some secondary rub over top for the beef and pork. The two markets that really seem to have exploded in the last 4 years are the BBQ rubs / sauce and the small distilleries. When everyone was stuck at home during the pandemic, it seems they all figured that they would be able to market their 'hobby' and make some money. The majority of them aren't unique enough or of a high enough quality to set them apart from the multitudes to select from. These rubs work great and have been my go to initial seasoning used on any of meals cooked out on the grills. Sad to see this news, but completely understand the business side of it.
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Huskee I absolutely missed this. Thanks and bummer. I have backups of the rubs, pork, poultry and red. I know there are other great sauces and rubs out there. I'll look at the recipe and see if I want to jump in.
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Huskee. Other than at the start of this thread, I cannot find these 2 recipes. Are they, or will they, be posted in the pitmaster recipes thread for posterity?
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Since this topic has come back around,
There are TWO Meathead BBQ sauce recipes that are both headlined as “Kansas City”:
1) Kansas City Style BBQ Sauce Recipe
This is the recipe that is most analogous to the bottled sauce. If you make this recipe and add a little liquid smoke, it will be close. I have had countless people tell me that I should bottle this!
2) Red Kansas City Style Sauce
This is the recipe that is linked in the first post of this topic. It is NOT like the bottled Meathead sauce. It is a raspberry chipotle sauce.
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Ok, so the next day, the sauce WAS better. And I added the liquid smoke. Is it the same? No and it never will be. See additional commentary/notes from Meathead
Co-packers have their set of ingredients, shelf stabilizers, citric acid, etc. As home cooks, we don’t have that. Plus the written recipe has lots of variables. But I digress.
Bottom line, this recipe really is good, IMHO. This is the third time I’ve made it. I commented on the free side, too.
MattTheGR8 have you tried it yet?
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yakima I don't see the new KC Red under the BBQ sauce section on the free side either, despite there being 4-5 other "members only" sauces listed at the bottom of the page.
Here is a direct link to it, from the first post in this discussion:
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SheilaAnn I have made a batch of the KC red with raspberry. It is similar to Meathead's bottled sauce, but next time I will reduce the raspberry a bit and add some tamarind. By reducing the raspberry I may need to also add back some other sugar to compensate. This will be an ongoing challenge to duplicate the bottled sauce.
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Cookers- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (2021)
- Camp Chef FTG900 Flat Top Grill (2020)
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- Weber Performer Deluxe 22.5" w/ GrillGrates & Slow 'N Sear & Drip N Griddle & Vortex & Party Q & Rotisserie (2007)
- Weber Genesis Silver A (2002)
- Thermoworks RFX System w/ 2 probes + Billows
- Thermoworks Smoke w/ Wifi Gateway
- Thermoworks Dot
- Thermoworks Thermapen ONE & Classic
- Thermoworks RT600C
- Weber Connect
- Whatever I brewed and have on tap! See it here: https://taplist.io/taplist-57685
- If not cooking outdoors, I am cooking on the stovetop with my 14" carbon steel wok, 12" CI skillet, or in the oven with my two Lodge CI pizza pans, or two dutch ovens. I've also got a nifty Lodge carbon steel grill pan that rocks for veggies outdoors.
yakima I cannot seem to find that new KC Red with the raspberry in it when browsing the recipes, but aside from the direct link, it does show up if I search for "KC Red", as shown below. The old recipe comes up first, and the new one with raspberry comes up second in the search results.
However, it does not show up in any category or list on the free side that I can find...
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SheilaAnn you can find the new KC Red through a search. And yes - then you can click on it. It is *not* in the list of BBQ sauce recipes on the free side however, hence the issues with some folks tracking it down. Search reveals it, AND the direct link at the beginning of this conversation, but it basically seems to be an "unlisted" members only recipe at the moment...
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I started making my own rubs and sauces after tasting the hundreds on the market and soldonline. I think it's a personal taste thing like the 7000 mustards at the Museum in Middleton which is where I met Meathead and he signed my copy of his most excellent book. I always thought he might be an Ai person but he's real my friends.
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