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UPDATE: Meathead's Amazing Rubs & Sauce Status

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    #16
    I have never been a fan of pre-mixed rubs. Most are way too salty. I keep a good supply of spices on hand and mix my own.

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    • ItsAllGoneToTheDogs
      ItsAllGoneToTheDogs commented
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      The Meathead ones were actually tame on salt, tame enough you could even add another rub to them. I quite liked all but the pork one, since it wasn't anything that stood out vs other options.

    • Huskee
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      I agree with Dogs, and Heaven Made Products are similar- I typically have to partially dry brine first then use those rubs. A good thing.

    #17
    I hate to see that even Meathead could not succeed in the highly competitive rub and sauce market. There are so many thousands of them out there already, that the market is simply saturated. There are more rubs and sauces on store shelves and web pages than anyone could try in a life time.

    Thank you for sharing the recipes you already have with is, along with these new rub and sauce recipes!

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    • Meathead
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      To be successful like Meat Church, Killer Hogs, Dad's, Heath Riles, you have to do it almost full time like they do. You need a sales rep calling on stores. And we are focused on other things, like the Pitmaster Club!

    • realdocBBQ
      realdocBBQ commented
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      Thank goodness! Sorry for your and your commercial enterprises, but certainly thankful for the Pitmaster Club!

    #18
    Is the poultry rub the same as the S&G recipe, or is there a difference?
    As I noted earlier, I just recently bought and tried the poultry rub and enjoyed it, but have not yet attempted the S&G rub.

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      #19
      It is important to note that our commercial rubs and sauce are all slightly different from the recipes on AmazingRibs.com.
      1) We wanted them to be different so you would buy them! But the recipes are so successful we stayed close to them.
      2) They contain salt because all commercial rubs contain salt.
      3) The manufacturer uses ingredients that are slightly different from what you buy.
      4) Some have yeast extract, natural smoke flavor, etc.

      Here's how they were formulated: We sent them recipes that we tested and liked. They sent back samples. We tasted them and asked for changes, there were several rounds of changes. But as part of the contract, they never supplied us with an exact final recipe. That's their way of keeping us from going to another manufacturer. So the recipes we have on the website are close, but not exact.

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      • Finster
        Finster commented
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        Thanks for the feedback.
        Learn something new (in this case business practices) every day!

      • mgaretz
        mgaretz commented
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        I think it would be more fair to say the rubs are close to the recipes on the website, but not exact.

      #20
      I just snagged the last two bottles of KC from my local bbq store.

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      • yakima
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        So you will use one, and keep the other for posterity?

      • SheilaAnn
        SheilaAnn commented
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        yakima I will treasure them them like I treasure my oak ridge. There were no MH dry rubs left or else I would have snagged those, too.

      #21
      Last night I cooked up a batch of Meathead's sauce recipe to compare with what I have left of the bottled sauce. It is similar, but the raspberry flavor from the recipe is more pronounced than the bottled sauce. For the next batch I'll reduce the fruit a bit and maybe add some tamarind.

      Anyone else tried the recipe yet? Working together perhaps we can reverse engineer 100% of what's in the bottle.

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      • SheilaAnn
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        MattTheGR8 I just made the sauce today. It’s close! I added the tamarind.

      • MattTheGR8
        MattTheGR8 commented
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        SheilaAnn Thanks for the update! Do you have any suggestions for future tweaks?

      • SheilaAnn
        SheilaAnn commented
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        MattTheGR8 next day tasting (per advice on the recipe) was better. I also added the liquid smoke at 1/2 tsp for the batch. It was good!

      #22
      Just got my 3-pack from WalMart 🙌

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        #23
        Wow... Since I first tried the rubs, I loved each of them. I always used them as a base rub and then sprinkle some secondary rub over top for the beef and pork. The two markets that really seem to have exploded in the last 4 years are the BBQ rubs / sauce and the small distilleries. When everyone was stuck at home during the pandemic, it seems they all figured that they would be able to market their 'hobby' and make some money. The majority of them aren't unique enough or of a high enough quality to set them apart from the multitudes to select from. These rubs work great and have been my go to initial seasoning used on any of meals cooked out on the grills. Sad to see this news, but completely understand the business side of it.

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          #24
          Huskee I absolutely missed this. Thanks and bummer. I have backups of the rubs, pork, poultry and red. I know there are other great sauces and rubs out there. I'll look at the recipe and see if I want to jump in.

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          • Huskee
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            If you haven't already, give Heaven Made Products a try. Their Sinsational Italian is very close to Meathead's Pork & Poultry. Their stuff is wonderful.

          #25
          Huskee. Other than at the start of this thread, I cannot find these 2 recipes. Are they, or will they, be posted in the pitmaster recipes thread for posterity?

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          • RichieB
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            They're on the free side. If you want to you I guess you can copy them to the recipe thread under rubs or sauces on the Pitmasters side.
            I just dropped them in Paprika.

          • yakima
            yakima commented
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            Thanks RichieB. Thought I read somewhere that they were for pit masters only, so I did not look on free side.

          • Huskee
            Huskee commented
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            Yes. Certain members only recipes are blocked from Free Trial members or general public, you have to be logged in to see them.

          #26
          Since this topic has come back around,

          There are TWO Meathead BBQ sauce recipes that are both headlined as “Kansas City”:


          1) Kansas City Style BBQ Sauce Recipe

          This is the recipe that is most analogous to the bottled sauce. If you make this recipe and add a little liquid smoke, it will be close. I have had countless people tell me that I should bottle this!


          2) Red Kansas City Style Sauce

          This is the recipe that is linked in the first post of this topic. It is NOT like the bottled Meathead sauce. It is a raspberry chipotle sauce.

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            #27
            Ok, so the next day, the sauce WAS better. And I added the liquid smoke. Is it the same? No and it never will be. See additional commentary/notes from Meathead
            Co-packers have their set of ingredients, shelf stabilizers, citric acid, etc. As home cooks, we don’t have that. Plus the written recipe has lots of variables. But I digress.

            Bottom line, this recipe really is good, IMHO. This is the third time I’ve made it. I commented on the free side, too.

            MattTheGR8 have you tried it yet?

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            • yakima
              yakima commented
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              And I can't seem to find the KC Red, with raspberry, on the free side, whether restricted to members or not.

            • jfmorris
              jfmorris commented
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              yakima I don't see the new KC Red under the BBQ sauce section on the free side either, despite there being 4-5 other "members only" sauces listed at the bottom of the page.

              Here is a direct link to it, from the first post in this discussion:

              This extra-red version of Kansas City BBQ Sauce adds a pop of color chicken and ribs. The secret ingredient? Seedless raspberry jam!

            • MattTheGR8
              MattTheGR8 commented
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              SheilaAnn I have made a batch of the KC red with raspberry. It is similar to Meathead's bottled sauce, but next time I will reduce the raspberry a bit and add some tamarind. By reducing the raspberry I may need to also add back some other sugar to compensate. This will be an ongoing challenge to duplicate the bottled sauce.

            #28
            yakima I cannot seem to find that new KC Red with the raspberry in it when browsing the recipes, but aside from the direct link, it does show up if I search for "KC Red", as shown below. The old recipe comes up first, and the new one with raspberry comes up second in the search results.

            Click image for larger version  Name:	sauce.jpg Views:	0 Size:	436.5 KB ID:	1706367

            However, it does not show up in any category or list on the free side that I can find...

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            • SheilaAnn
              SheilaAnn commented
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              yakima 🤣🤣🤣

              on my way…I’m procrastinating

            • jfmorris
              jfmorris commented
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              SheilaAnn you can find the new KC Red through a search. And yes - then you can click on it. It is *not* in the list of BBQ sauce recipes on the free side however, hence the issues with some folks tracking it down. Search reveals it, AND the direct link at the beginning of this conversation, but it basically seems to be an "unlisted" members only recipe at the moment...

            • SheilaAnn
              SheilaAnn commented
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              jfmorris aaahhhh... I understand now.

            #29
            jfmorris, interesting. Huskee will see our commiseration and take action.
            BTW, your technical skills far surpass mine, sharing a screen shot!

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              #30
              I started making my own rubs and sauces after tasting the hundreds on the market and soldonline. I think it's a personal taste thing like the 7000 mustards at the Museum in Middleton which is where I met Meathead and he signed my copy of his most excellent book. I always thought he might be an Ai person but he's real my friends.

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