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So, I am contemplating a different system. I currently have a smoke 2 channel, and smoke x4 4 channel. And a billows. I rarely if ever use my billows. It is not a trustworthy fan for me. I am on my second one sent to me, and still it is not reliable. Also, I generally do not need much assistance in setting and forgetting my set ups. But, it could always be there when I want it.
It seems as the thermoworks controllers and monitors do nut work with other brands of fans. If you were to buy a new set up today. Which would it be. I’m not super thrilled at all about the idea of a phone or tablet to operate it. But, I understand it may be my best option.
That is my preferred method, although I do like to know the temps of fire and meat. Maybe when I have a bunch more experience, I will not even care about internal temp, just fire temp. Someday, goals right?
Lonestar Grillz 24x36 offset smoker, grill, w/ main chamber charcoal grate and 3 tel-tru thermometers - left, right and center
Yoke Up custom charcoal basket and a Grill Wraps cover.
22.5 copper kettle w/ SnS, DnG, BBQ vortex, gasket and stainless steel hinge kit.
Napoleon gas grill (soon to go bye bye) rotting out.
1 maverick et-733 digital thermometer - black
1 maverick et-733 - gray
1 new standard grilling remote digital thermometer
1 thermoworks thermopen mk4 - red
1 thermoworks thermopop - red
Pre Miala flavor injector
taylor digital scale
TSM meat grinder
chefs choice food slicer
cuisinhart food processor
food saver vacuum sealer
TSM harvest food dehydrator
Smoker:
Landmann Smoke Master Series Heavy Duty Barrel Smoker (COS) - With mods including 2 level rack system with pull-out grates
Masterbuilt 40.2" 1200W Electric Smoker
Masterbuilt ThermoTemp XL 40" Vertical Propane Smoker
Gas Grill:
BBQPro (cheap big box store model) Stainless steel 4 burnerswith aftermarket rotisserie.
Charcoal Grill:
Weber Smokey Joe Charcoal Grill 14"
Thermometer:​​​​​​
Fireboard 2 with Drive cable and 20 CFM fan and Competition Probe Package
Fireboard 1st Generation
ThermoWorks Mini Instant Read
Lavaworks Thermowand Instant Read
2 Maverick 733
ThermoWorks IR-GUN-S Industrial Infrared Thermometer
ThermoWorks ThermaPen Mk4 x 2
Govee Bluetooth Thermometer with 6 probes
Miscellaneous:
Anova Sous Vide Immersion Circulator - 1st generation
Anova Sous Vide Immersion Circulator - wifi/bluetooth connected
Favorite Beer:
Anything to the dark side and malty rather than hoppy. Currently liking Yuengling Porter and Newcastle Brown Ale. In a bar or pub I will often default to Guiness
Favorite Spirit:
Bourbon - Eagle Rare for "every day"; Angel's Envy for special occasions, Basil Hayden's, Larceny
Favorite Wine:
Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon Super Tuscan Sangiovese (Including Chianti Classico Riserva) Brunello di Montalcino
Favorite Meat(s):
Pork - especially the darker meat. I love spare ribs and anything made from shoulder/butt meat
Chicken - Mainly the dark meat and wings
Beef Ribeye steak
Favorite Cuisine to Cook:
Can't list just one: Indian, Chinese, Thai, West Indian/Carribean, Hispanic/Latin American, Ethiopian, Italian, BBQ
Favorite Cuisine to Eat:
Indian, followed closely by BBQ.
I'm thrilled, generally, with my FireBoard 2. I run a first gen FireBoard fan with it and a Drive cable, both left over from my FB 1. If I was going to start again from scratch (no existing equipment) I think I would get a FireBoard 2 Drive and a Pit Viper fan.
Edit: It does require a phone or tablet to run the thermometer and fan, but the app and interface are very well executed.
Last edited by Dewesq55; August 21, 2021, 12:09 PM.
I have the BBQ Guru 1st generation PartyQ, and it has be reliable for me. they no longer make it and have replaced it with a newer model. My other controller is a Smobot which I think only works on Kamados. The Smobot had a dedicated controller which can be coordinated with by tablet or phone if you would like but is not necessary. I think that is how most controllers now work. If you can monitor your food on the ThermoWorks without a blower, then you should be able to simply add an independent blower. If that is the case picking up an old Party Q would fix that. The Party Q operates on batteries, but I converted mine to electric. New they cost about $100.
i bought the signals and bellows 2 weeks ago and the as i posted earlier first cook ok. 2 second cook fan stop for 10 min. and then started . 10 min. later lost heat probe , was reading -47. third cook after getting a replacment heat probe lost a meat probe(2 cook) and fan stopped again. today i recieved a new replacement themoworks signals and bellows. also the lid detection did not shut off the fan all the time and if you set the set point to 400 and then reset it to 325 it drops all the way to 304 and then starts to gain to the set at 325. it was beteen the fireboard2 and the signals. so i am interested with what the guys have to say.
I’ve only read horrible reviews on the signals and billows. Sorry you are experiencing similar. I fell in love with the 2 channel smoke and went blindly in love into the next level, and now regretting not doing more research before going billows. I think the entire fault in my set up is the fan engineering in of itself.
i noticed that the new probes they sent me they are figure 8 wraped and the L shaped probe is placed parallel to the figure 8 raped cable that the wire is pinched at the place the wire goes into the l shaped probe. i was told that they have been having trouble getting electronic components. so i do not know if this is part of the bad reviews they have been getting!
That said, I have had this one for 18 months and 50 cooks or so now and it works very well. No frills - just monitors temps via an app and simply works.
Inkbird Bluetooth Grill BBQ Meat Thermometer with 4 Probes Digital Wireless Grill Thermometer, Timer, Alarm,150 ft Barbecue Cooking Kitchen Food Meat Thermometer for Smoker, Oven, Drum https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B076QDC5...ing=UTF8&psc=1
I’m going on my 3rd or 4th year with my original Fireboard. I had a pair of probes go bad this spring and replaced them and added the Drive Cable and the fan. Very happy with everything and although I want to replace the original with the new version, It won’t quit and watch it from inside the house with my phone so the bigger screen isn’t much help.
Resistance is futile, just buy the Fireboard 2 Drive and be done I’ve had such good luck with a FB1 and FB2 Drive I have to fight myself from buying a FB Pro. I use the Pit Viper fan too, but I put more into the right setup for your cooker instead of the brand of fan. For the kettle though, the Pit Viper with their Weber adapter is probably best.
I love my Thrmapens and Pops, but rarely hear good things about Smoke and Signals other than support if it breaks. I also saw someone on here recently say BBQ Guru recently obsoleted older models of their devices by no longer having mobile app support for them. Maybe it was RonB ?
Weber S-335 gas grill
Weber 26†kettle
Weber 22†kettle
Camp Chef XL Smoke Vault
Camp Chef 3 Burner cook top
Camp Chef Woodwind 36 Pellet grill with sidekick burner
PBC
Accessories:
SnS XL
SnS standard
Vortex
Weber Rotisserie for 22†Kettle
1st gen FireBoard
2nd gen FireBoard
Griddle for Camp Chef cooktop
Several Thermoworks items
Set of Grill Grates
Have BBQ Guru DigiQ with pit viper fan, no issues for 5 yrs. upgraded to CyberQ 3 years ago (recently replaced by UltraQ) for multiple meat probes & no issues. Regularly use one or the other depending on number of probes needed. Both appear to be bulletproof & more importantly for me…idiot-proof.
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