I think the direct answer to your question is "No. The SNS will not help you learn.". By that, I mean that the general techniques are the same with or without a SNS. Without the SNS I would do the snake method for low and slow, with a water/drip pan under the meat. Or use my two Weber charcoal baskets to bank the coals. The SNS just makes it easier and more convenient, but does not change the basic process at all.
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I don't think going more primitive will accelerate your learning any faster than going with a SnS right away. You are still managing a fire and most grilling consists of indirect cooking with a quick direct cook at the end to sear, so either way you go you are setting up the grill in the same manner - coals off to one side and food off to the other. I'd get it right away.
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First, welcome to The Pit. You have come to the right place for learning.
I went from bricks, to charcoal baskets, to Smokenator, to SNS in my kettles. My belief is you will get a SNS eventually so might as well get it now. They all help you "learn" but frankly they all do the same thing: indirect heat. It is just that managing heat control may be different among the methods.
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If you get one just make the effort to learn the other techniques. I think you're right that you should know how to use a charcoal BBQ with or without it. I have one for my 26" Weber, but not for my other 4 kettles.
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"Hmm, never thought of that. If I get other grills or smokers down the road, I'll have the opportunity (or challenge, or whatever) to cook without a SnS"Originally posted by Attjack View PostIf you get one just make the effort to learn the other techniques. I think you're right that you should know how to use a charcoal BBQ with or without it. I have one for my 26" Weber, but not for my other 4 kettles.
Sure, or you can just take it out depending on what you're doing. For instance I tried using my SnS for yakitori, and it worked. But then I did it without the SnS and it worked better. Other times I use my Arteflame insert, or my homemade "poortex" accessory. They're all tools including the kettle itself. Sometimes I even BBQ with nothing but fire and fuel.
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