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    #16
    Tutorial:
    1.
    Ya pull the knife out!
    2. Ya mutter “heh, heh”.
    3. Ya swipe it (the knife to those in Oconomowoc) a few times on a steel.
    4. Mutterin louder “heh, heh”.
    5. Ya start cuttin, whilst yellin “heh, heh”!

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    • acorgihouse
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      Heh, heh, and I'll see you later when you need to get some fingertips sewed back on!

    • ecowper
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      does it have to be "heh, heh"?

    • FireMan
      FireMan commented
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      ecowper , I say my good man, what pray tell would you have it?
      Heh,heh!

    #17
    I bought this book for Kindle when it was on sale last year.



    It's a good read, however you probably can pick most tips from the free online videos mentioned above.

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    • KimO
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      Looks like a very indepth book! I wonder how it translates to kindle paperwhite? Do you find the pictures translate well? for illustration purposes?

    #18
    Another thing to consider is what type of primary knife you wish to use. There is, of course, the ubiquitous chef's knife, but there are other styles. I use a santoku as my primary knife and after 20 years of using it, using a chef's knife feels weird and a little awkward. I am much more adept with the santoku.

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    • Mosca
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      KimO, I use a magnetic knife rack, it saves space and makes a nice display. But if you don’t have wall space for one, or prefer your knives in a drawer, a set of knife guards is really cheap. I use those on the knives that aren’t on the wall.

      5/10/20pcs Universal Knife Edge Guards Set, Non-BPA Knife Sheath, Waterproof Abrasion Resistant Felt Lined Knife Cover Sleeves Knife Protectors, Gentle on Your Blades(10pcs) https://a.co/d/iqPTnQe

    • ecowper
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      KimO if you can’t find a local knife sharpener, and you can afford the initial outlay, the Apex Edge Pro system is great. I have the Apex 4 kit because my great wife got it for me for Christmas a couple years ago

      Explore a range of sharpening stones, including diamond and whetstone options, designed to refine your knife and scissor edges to perfection.

    • ecowper
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      Also, to be clear, those Wusthof knives are great

    #19
    Something I heard Scott Conant say on Chopped:

    "A falling knife has no handle."

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    • ecowper
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      There's a funny bit in a Chef Jean-Pierre video where he knocks a knife off the counter and then goes on a safety rant.

    • Alan Brice
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      He is cute. Love his videos.

    • KimO
      KimO commented
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      too funny.

    #20
    I have a Wustoff chef knife that is in the neighborhood of 40 years old. Do not plan on replacin it
    cuz it works juss fine.
    Do, do, do sharpen yer knives. First step ya learn.

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    • KimO
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      thanks!

    #21
    I found a local place that will sharpen my knives at a reasonable cost. I was wondering what you all use to hone your knives in the between sharpenings? Thank you in advance!

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    • ecowper
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      I use a ceramic honing rod.

    • PGH_RAM
      PGH_RAM commented
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      I use as steel honing rod or, if my knives need more of a touch-up but not quite a full sharpening, I use the ultra fine belt on this:

      The Ken Onion Edition Knife and Tool Sharpener expands on our best-selling Knife and Tool Sharpener with more power, more flexibility, and more control as specified by legendary knife maker Ken Onion. This sharpener is designed for edge enthusiasts who want precision, incredibly keen edges and consistent results. It sh

    #22
    This one is called the SENZUSHARPENER. Abrasive on one side n ceramic stones on the other. Click image for larger version

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      #23
      Thanks, Alan Brice! p.s. made Cinci Chili the other day and had leftovers tonight. yum. Born there, much of my family is from there and some remain.

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      • Alan Brice
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        Supposed to have orig sold in a burlesq at 8th&Vine. 3 blocks north of the square located btw 6th n 5th north and south. Vine n Walnut. Vine splits the city east west and runs all the way north to Tri- County at I-275. Greeks made chili and Germans made beer and ran the slaughter houses. Cincy was called Porkopolis back then.

      • KimO
        KimO commented
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        Alan Brice Meant burlesque, not vaudeville! :-) you certainly have more detail than I. A lot of that information our family had died with my Uncle Bill. I will record this with the Cinci Chili recipe lore! Your words will go into Paprika and be exported from there from now on when someone asks for the recipe! Gotta' keep it interesting, huh!

      • Alan Brice
        Alan Brice commented
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        KimO I had an uncle Bill as well. Worked for Kahn's meat packing on Spring Grove.
        His wife was Joyce. Nice memories.

      #24
      Jacques Pepin's "La Technique" has an entire chapter dedicated to knife work and it is the first chapter in the book. He writes that an apprentice chef isn't allowed at the stove until they have mastered the knife work. It's a seminal book for cooking (in my opinion). He also has lots of videos on YouTube and Facebook. Marco Pierre White has some videos on knife work as well.

      Good luck on your practice!

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            #27
            Thanks Sweaty Paul, I enjoyed these videos very much. I have been following his videos recommended up earlier in this thread, but these two have more info on his use of the paring knife that I can put to use. Thank you very much, these help a lot.

            Yes, I have a special place in my heart for Cincinnati. Until the last few years, I took my Mom there every year or so to see her remaining sister. Fortunately, my cousin has been bringing my aunt here to St Louis somewhat regularly so they are continuing to see each other. So all good!

            Take care. Thanks again.
            Kim

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            • KimO
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              Sweaty Paul I ordered La Technique today. I feel like I'm getting an extra Christmas present! :-)

            • Sweaty Paul
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              KimO hope you enjoy "La Technique" as much as I have.

            • KimO
              KimO commented
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              Sweaty Paul Funny you should ask. It was late getting here. When I saw your message this morning, I checked my porch and there it was! Reading it now! Quite fascinating and I can see how it will be very helpful for a long time to come. Thank you so much for the recommendation!

            #28
            Great videos, cute kid! Learned a bit of francois.

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              #29
              I know this has been a while, just wanted all of you to know how much it helped. I have been working on my skills and am now 'somewhat adequate' and working on it! hee hee. It is much more fun now that I have something to work toward.

              I had my knives sharpened by a service and bought a ceramic honing rod as recommended and use the videos to refresh my memory for proper technique still. I have only cut myself once; fortunately not too much blood... I have what's called essential tremors, but am on medication for it, so it is minimal. I will never be fast, but if I concentrate and am patient I can be fairly consistent though nowhere near where I would like to be!

              Thank you all again for all your help. It is truly more enjoyable and am getting better results. I can't thank you enough. This is a great site and you are all great people.
              Last edited by KimO; March 20, 2024, 08:37 AM.

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              • Mosca
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                It sounds to me like you’re as good as you need to be for what we do here. The only consistency I strive for is consistent sized pieces, and only then when it’s important for everything to cook the same or look the same.

              #30
              One thing that really surprised me when I had my knives professionally sharpened was just how much less effort it took to slice things. It really became clear that many knife accidents come from inordinate pressure to overcome a dulled blade.

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              • KimO
                KimO commented
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                I agree it is better than it was before I had them sharpened. Both slicing through vegetables and meats and in getting started through things like tomato skins, etc. I must admit, though, I expected them to be a little sharper. I had done some research and used a mail-in sharpening service that Kenji's site recommended (among others). Maybe my expectations were a little too high? I thought I would try a different place next time.

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