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Fireboard Backup Power...5V vs 12V

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    Fireboard Backup Power...5V vs 12V

    Last weekend I ran into some issues on a long cook where I was using the Fireboard 10000mAh battery backup, and yet still ran out of power on the main Fireboard without it having "tapped into" the battery backup.

    I've been working with Fireboard since, and shipped off my logs, which they're looking at, but in the meanwhile decided to do some experimentation on my own. I've found some interesting results.

    I set up the fireboard in my office, attached to my fan, configured with a fully charged Fireboard and fully charged battery pack, attached with a cable between the big red USB-A port on the battery to the USB-C port on the fireboard. The Fireboard registered that it had 5V connection. I left the fan running all night (at 10 or 20% so it wasn't loud) and went to bed. The next morning, the 10000mAh battery had barely been touched, but the Fireboard was down to 62%.

    Next night, I repeated the experiment, but this time used a cable with the USB-C at both ends to connect the fireboard and the battery backup. Fireboard device showed 12V attached. This time the experiment ran much longer...nearly 12 hours (I slept in) and when the Fireboard showed 96% charge, and the 10000mAh battery was around half.

    So, it seems that the Fireboard performed more the way I would have expected, drawing power from the power cord before using its own battery, only when connected at 12V.

    I don't know whether that's a glitch in my unit, or standard, or whether this would work for you, but if you're going to do a long cook on the FBX2D with the battery pack, it may be worth trying this experiment yourself.

    Next step...going to try the same with AC connection and different USB cables/voltages. Hypothesis is that I'll get the same results The wall USB adapter should make it a difference only in voltage, i would think, but we'll see.
    Last edited by MadUncleAndy; October 31, 2020, 06:05 AM.

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    Well, I know little about the Fireboard, but a lot about USB. A standard USB connector can only deliver 5V. USB-C can deliver up to 20V. Unless they have a step up voltage booster in the Fireboard, knowing that the fan is 12V, I don’t see how 5V would work, unless that is their normal charging voltage. How many volts does the AC adapter for the Fireboard put out?

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      Originally posted by jfmorris View Post
      Well, I know little about the Fireboard, but a lot about USB. A standard USB connector can only deliver 5V. USB-C can deliver up to 20V. Unless they have a step up voltage booster in the Fireboard, knowing that the fan is 12V, I don’t see how 5V would work, unless that is their normal charging voltage. How many volts does the AC adapter for the Fireboard put out?
      The one that came with it says that it delivers 12 V at 1.5 A, (or 9 at 2, or 9 at 3...but the FB reads 12V when it's plugged in).

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        So, so much for that hypothesis...plugged into a vanilla USB-A wall outlet, it went from the 96% I had it at up to 100 and held it for hours, while the fan was running 100%. ... so I swapped it over to a different battery backup I have for my phone, also USB-A, and reading 5V. It also lasted for some time at 100%. I'm now switching back to the Fireboard battery backup, but the black USB-A socket, rather than the red one, at 5V. Let's see how this goes. It may just be that the red socket is faulty or unsuitable for this task?

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          Your results do make sense to me since the FB2 is designed as USB-C. Glad that you figured it out. I understand them wanting to make their battery pack versatile for original FB and FB2, but that does seem like something they should have documented.
          Last edited by glitchy; October 31, 2020, 12:20 PM.

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            So here's the other killer...I switched over to the black USB-A port on the FB 10000mAh charger, and it's also held the FB unit itself at rock solid 100% for hours now, with 5V and the fan at full speed.

            Switched back to the red USB-A port again, just to make sure it isn't an intermittent thing, but could it be only the red port that's problematic? The guy at Fireboard told me that one was for more rapid dump of power.

            Maybe I have a wonky portable charger? Maybe I have a wonky cable? Maybe I have a wonky FB unit? Maybe it's behaving as designed? Who would know.? Yeah, some sort of documentation would have been nice. That way at least I'd know what the expectation was for its behavior..
            Last edited by MadUncleAndy; October 31, 2020, 01:43 PM.

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