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  • abkaye
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    • Aug 2014
    • 14
    • Albuquerque, NM
    • Weber Kettle (22")
      Pit Barrel Cooker
      Custom pit (Shirley Fabrication, Tuscaloosa, AL)
      Thermapens... everywhere...

    Need help finding leave-in thermometer with long leads...

    I've been searching and searching, but all of the cables on the leave-in thermometers max out at 78". My smoker is 60" long, and to be safe, I think I need at least 85" of cable (i.e., not counting the probe itself) to be inside the cooker. That takes me to the feedthroughs, so it would be nice to have another 30"-36" from the feedthroughs until the cable plugs into the unit. I'd love a unit that talked to my phone/tablet (distance is short), but the thing needs to be long enough. I've checked with every company I can find - no dice. Needless to say, I'll have to be willing to pay for this, and I am. What good is having the awesome new stick burner if you can't monitor food temps?

    Thanks for the help!
  • Jon Solberg
    Former Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 4819

    #2
    Get ab. Welcome.

    Not sure about longer cables. Have you considered a different cable path? Maybe a new port of entry?

    What are you cooking on?

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    • oldthor
      Former Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 32
      • Western Massachusetts

      #3
      Check with Thermoworks. Should be doable

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      • Huskee
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        #4
        I second finding a different path. I go under my lid, just be careful not to slam the lid. My probe wires have held up fine but I know some don't like the sound of this idea.

        Also, Meater is a new company coming out with the first ever double-wireless food & cooker probes. Check 'em out!

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        • abkaye
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          #5
          I'm cooking on a brand new stick burner made by the guys at Shirley Fabrication in Tuscaloosa (highly recommended). I guess I could cut into my brand new to and weld new ports on, but there's not much room. I'm loathe to run the wires under the lid - the seal is tight and I don't want to screw that up.

          I called Thermoworks and spoke with them at length (no pun intended). Their best solution was custom probes, with a 4-6 week lead time. When I asked them for a quote, I never got one. 😒 Disappointing.

          I've seen he Meater products and chipped in for their Kickstarter campaign. Just waiting on delivery, but I don't know if that signal can get out of my cooker...

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          • Huskee
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            • May 2014
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            • central MI, USA
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              • PBC
              • Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
              • Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
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              • Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
              • Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (black)
              • Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
              • Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
              • Brinkmann cabinet charcoal smoker (repurposed)

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              • (3) Maverick XR-50: 4-probe Wireless Thermometers
              • (7) Maverick ET-732s
              • (1) Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
              • (1) Smoke by ThermoWorks
              • (1) Signals by ThermoWorks
              • Thermapen MkII, orange
              • ThermoPop, yellow
              • ThermoWorks ChefAlarm
              • Morpilot 6-probe wireless
              • ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
              • ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well

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              • Instant Pot 6qt
              • Anova Bluetooth SV
              • Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
              • Kindling Cracker King (XL)
              • BBQ Dragon
              • Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
              • Weber grill topper
              • Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
              • Drip 'N Griddle Pan, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by ABCbarbecue
              • Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter

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              • Favorite summer beer: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold
              • Fav other beer: DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
              • Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
              • Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
              • Wine: Red- big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
              • Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, Eagle Rare, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig, Basil Hayden's. Neat please.
              • Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.

              About me
              Real name: Aaron
              Location: Farwell, Michigan- near Clare. (dead center of lower peninsula)

              Occupation:
              • Healthcare- Licensed & Registered Respiratory Therapist (RRT) for MidMichigan Health, a University of Michigan Health System.

            #6
            There's always using more than one unit, then you can place the transmitters where you need them in order for the 6' wires to reach.

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            • abkaye
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              • Aug 2014
              • 14
              • Albuquerque, NM
              • Weber Kettle (22")
                Pit Barrel Cooker
                Custom pit (Shirley Fabrication, Tuscaloosa, AL)
                Thermapens... everywhere...

              #7
              Huskee - The problem is that the last 3' of wires (practically) need to be outside the cooker. The end of the wire is (generally speaking) not designed to be extended, so is plastic or rubber or something else that won't taste good. That means that the "plug" and some length of cable (to connect to the unit) needs to be outside the cooker; I estimate that to be 3' or so. That leaves almost nothing for inside the smoker -- and certainly nothing for food near the firebox...

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              • abkaye
                Charter Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 14
                • Albuquerque, NM
                • Weber Kettle (22")
                  Pit Barrel Cooker
                  Custom pit (Shirley Fabrication, Tuscaloosa, AL)
                  Thermapens... everywhere...

                #8
                You can see the two ports for the main cooking chamber on the left of the picture; the other two ports are for the warming chamber (above the firebox). There's a stainless steel shelf that runs in front of the unit (I'm waiting on the support bar for it). Does this help?

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                • Jon Solberg
                  Former Member
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 4819

                  #9
                  Maybe you just have to cook with the probe 8" away from where it should be.
                  I know that's not a good answer but sort of looks like the hand youve been delt : (

                  That Sir is one fine lookin rig you got. : )

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                  • Powersmoke_80
                    Founding Member
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 874
                    • Bay City, Michigan
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                    #10
                    @​abkaye, Dang that is a sweet cooker, One idea would be to remove a gauge from the lid and use that port and mount the digital to the counter weight. Or drill a couple holes and run a pipe tap in the center under where your shelf will mount, I'm sure the material is like 1/4" thick so there would be enough material to tap for a fitting without welding.

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                    • abkaye
                      Charter Member
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 14
                      • Albuquerque, NM
                      • Weber Kettle (22")
                        Pit Barrel Cooker
                        Custom pit (Shirley Fabrication, Tuscaloosa, AL)
                        Thermapens... everywhere...

                      #11
                      It just seems counterintuitive to me that the solution would have to be resorting to modifying this pit. After all, all of the leads we're talking about are simple thermocouples. Instead of cheap plastic ends, you could use alumina ends (a little brittle, but would take the heat with zero difficulty). Extending the thermocouple wire is really easy. Part of me wants to make my own, but I'd have to sacrifice the nice probe ends (the part in the meat).

                      It's not like these cables are rare and exotic things...

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                      • Jon Solberg
                        Former Member
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 4819

                        #12
                        Its not really about the pit is it? Its about the BBQ right? I mean the art is not in the cooker but what comes out of the cooker. The pit no matter the cost is just a tool.

                        Here's the deal. You cant find a longer cable so you have to settle or modify what you got. End of the day its all about the meat.

                        I think the solution you want is going to have to come from your hands.

                        I wont lie. I cant wait to follow that cable build. Teach us something. This is going to be awesome!

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                        • Rfuilrez
                          Club Member
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 171

                          #13
                          If you purchase a temperature monitor that is capable of accepting K-Type thermocouples, you can build you own probes any length you want. This thread

                          http://tvwbb.com/showthread.php?6336...ocouple-How-To

                          This thread is located on the HeaterMeter sub-forums. I highly recommend the HeaterMeter. It is extremely flexible and powerful. You might not need it for the temperature controlling functions with that sweet rig, but it can do all kinds of reporting and alerts/alarms for you. Web based output. Wifi Connected. Android and iOS apps. Some of the members of the community have built them with 4 K-Type thermocouple connections. So you can monitor your pit very well. Check it out.

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                          • jgg85234
                            Charter Member
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 738
                            • Gilbert, AZ (Suburb of Phoenix)
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                              Adrenaline BBQ Company Slow n Sear #61
                              Adrenaline BBQ Company Drip n Griddle
                              Weber Smokey Mountain 14.5" (2014)
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                              *Thermometers
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                              *Favorites to smoke - Baby Back or St. Louis Ribs, Pork Butts, Standing Rib Roast, Strip Loin Roast, Tri-Tip, Chicken, Turkey, Pork Loin, Cornish Hens

                            #14
                            Some of the Thermoworks devices use the K-2 probes. While their web site lists them as accessories, they are also available from other companies.

                            Here's an armored probe that's K-2, and is 10 ft. long. A little research on K-2s and I'll bet you can find exactly what you need.

                            http://tinyurl.com/zu7f7eq

                            Best regards,
                            Jim

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                            • abkaye
                              Charter Member
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 14
                              • Albuquerque, NM
                              • Weber Kettle (22")
                                Pit Barrel Cooker
                                Custom pit (Shirley Fabrication, Tuscaloosa, AL)
                                Thermapens... everywhere...

                              #15
                              Rfuilrez - This looks pretty cool. I'll check it out. I'm in the middle of making the thermocouples - that's the easy part. If you have the 4-channel wifi iOS part done, I'd love to talk about it.

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                              • Rfuilrez
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                                abkaye
                                I have a standard Heatermeter built. It only has 1 thermocouple port and 3 thermistor ports. It's 4 channels but not 4 Thermocouples.

                                All of the heater meters will have WiFi and can communicate with the iOS app PitMeter.

                                An All thermocouple version would need a custom printed board and case. I would suggest posting in this thread
                                http://tvwbb.com/showthread.php?5983...ding-Resources

                                And see if some one can hook you up with an all thermocouple version.

                                Or you could buy one from Auber. It has 2 thermocouple ports and 1 thermistor port. http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=492

                                It's also a Heatermeter. So it will do all the things the home built ones will. The Auber site even links back to the forums.
                                Last edited by Rfuilrez; January 31, 2016, 09:47 AM.

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