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Originally posted by fzxdoc View Postnikolausp , did you heat that purge in the microwave or cooktop and strain it to get the albumin out as described in the original post here? If not, you may want to consider doing it.
Dr. Pepper 's post here that describes what happened when he didn't heat his purge to isolate and filter out the albumin. Basically it looks bad but tastes good. Which is not all bad.
Kathryn
Yesterday I also found this super detailed post from this site, on this very topic.....That's where I got the "Sous Jus" name that I like haha.
What to do with those juices… It wasn’t so long ago that chefs routinely discarded the juices left in the bag after sous vide processing. This cloudy liquid carries the flavor of the particular protein, but it also contains denatured myoglobin and albumins. If not removed, these congealed proteins create a smell and/or taste somewhat […]Last edited by nikolausp; January 7, 2023, 08:24 AM.
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nikolausp , did you heat that purge in the microwave or cooktop and strain it to get the albumin out as described in the original post here? If not, you may want to consider doing it.
Dr. Pepper 's post here that describes what happened when he didn't heat his purge to isolate and filter out the albumin. Basically it looks bad but tastes good. Which is not all bad.
Kathryn
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Just saw this thread. Purge (Sous Jus) is good stuff! Earlier this week I did a couple racks of Dino Beef Ribs 72 hours at 136deg in the Sous Vide bath, then smoked for a few hours low & slow for a nice crust. I strained all the Sous Jus and had a full cup of yummy rich beefy Sous Jus and then put it in a fat strainer for a couple hours to let it separate any fat out, and then put it in ice cube trays to freeze up, and kept them in a ziplock freezer bag to use when I want in the future.
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That said, to my taste, the pre and post smoke add to bark formation and smoke flavor. Your mileage may vary.
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Smoke particles are so small, they can go right through the bag. They don’t all do so. But you get a Smokey flavor when SVing a smoked product.
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What a great post, full of cool, nerdy information. I’ve just recently gotten into SV and QVQ techniques and really enjoy the results from this combination of cooking methods. My question concerns the smoke that infuses the meat and what comes out in the resulting purge. I know just enough about the subject matter to be dangerous so forgive my ignorance going forward.
I’ve read some posts in here that suggest a SV after an initial smoke extracts not only the liquids but the smoky flavor as well. I’ve also read that smoking after the SV is futile because the meat won’t uptake any more smoke. If these are both true, what’s the point of either Q step if it’s done in an attempt to infuse smoky flavor? What’s your experience in this regard? I’m also interested in the scientific explanation for what happens. E.g., what do the smoke molecules bind to in the meat that would either 1) cause them to be extracted or 2) allow them to remain, during the SV?Last edited by WayneT; August 8, 2022, 04:30 AM.
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Forgot how great this post was/is. Great to see it back up.
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You could boil on the stove and skim as well.
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When you rummage through the freezer and come across a package of frozen "chicken purge" it takes one aback. Sorting through and finding the correct corresponding mental image takes a few nanoseconds, for me at least.
Purge is good stuff. It's great that Potkettleblack opened our eyes to it with this topic.
P.S. I used that chicken purge in a green chicken enchilada sauce. Yum.
Kathryn
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ROSEMARY/SAGE/GARLIC PORK PUDDING
I had seen this post only a couple of months ago, as I finally was using my Joule and getting good results. But, had forgotten the details. Tonight I SVd two pork chops that I had allowed to defrost in their bags, then added the herbs, no salt, some black pepper, a little EVOO. Re-sealed, and SV'd.
I didn't take the time to find this thread, but instead poured the purge through a strainer, but didn't microwave or boil first. Made a small butter/flour light brown roux, then added the strained liquid, stirred, and presto!
I regret not taking a photo of the pudding that resulted. I tried putting it next to the chops after searing them, but my wife ignored the pale beige goop. It was like that magic putty, you could move it around and it assumed a new shape each time.
BUT, it tasted good! I ate it when my wife wasn't watching. Pork pudding. Yum. (Next time I will microwave before filtering.) Thanks for the tutorial, Potkettleblack. Good things happen in Berwyn.
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