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- Jul 2014
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- The Poconos, NEPA
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Smoker:
Landmann Smoke Master Series Heavy Duty Barrel Smoker (COS) - With mods including 2 level rack system with pull-out grates
Masterbuilt 40.2" 1200W Electric Smoker
Masterbuilt ThermoTemp XL 40" Vertical Propane Smoker
Gas Grill:
BBQPro (cheap big box store model) Stainless steel 4 burnerswith aftermarket rotisserie.
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Weber Smokey Joe Charcoal Grill 14"
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Fireboard 2 with Drive cable and 20 CFM fan and Competition Probe Package
Fireboard 1st Generation
ThermoWorks Mini Instant Read
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ThermoWorks IR-GUN-S Industrial Infrared Thermometer
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Anova Sous Vide Immersion Circulator - 1st generation
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Anything to the dark side and malty rather than hoppy. Currently liking Yuengling Porter and Newcastle Brown Ale. In a bar or pub I will often default to Guiness
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Bourbon - Eagle Rare for "every day"; Angel's Envy for special occasions, Basil Hayden's, Larceny
Favorite Wine:
Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon Super Tuscan Sangiovese (Including Chianti Classico Riserva) Brunello di Montalcino
Favorite Meat(s):
Pork - especially the darker meat. I love spare ribs and anything made from shoulder/butt meat
Chicken - Mainly the dark meat and wings
Beef Ribeye steak
Favorite Cuisine to Cook:
Can't list just one: Indian, Chinese, Thai, West Indian/Carribean, Hispanic/Latin American, Ethiopian, Italian, BBQ
Favorite Cuisine to Eat:
Indian, followed closely by BBQ.
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Current line-up of cookers: Oklahoma Joe's Bronco Pro, Masterbuilt Gravity Series 1050, Blackstone ProSeries 4 Burner 36" griddle, Weber Performer Deluxe and Weber Smokey Joe.
Me? I prefer to trim as much exterior fat as I can on these. There's plenty of fat throughout that piece of meat to keep it moist, and I tend to get better bark this way.
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- May 2014
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- Clare, Michigan area
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I HEAVILY trim my pork butts, I even dig down in, hack & slash style, and remove fat bands. There's so much fat in them that any I can remove now is less wads of fat in the finished product.
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What do you do then tie it up with string?
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mountainsmoker Usually I let gravity hold it, I just sorta flop it however on the grate so that it holds together in a single hunk. If it's real bad then I'll tie, but only had to do that a few times. I find I have to tie more when smoking a boneless butt than bone-in that I've hacked up.
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If I get one with that on it I trim it off, rub it and put it on with the butt. It will be good in about 2+ hours and ready for the grill boss to snack on. I never waste anything that starts with P. As far as trimming I take all of the outside fat off or as much as possible without cutting into the meat to much.
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Founding Member
- Jul 2014
- 2572
- The Poconos, NEPA
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Smoker:
Landmann Smoke Master Series Heavy Duty Barrel Smoker (COS) - With mods including 2 level rack system with pull-out grates
Masterbuilt 40.2" 1200W Electric Smoker
Masterbuilt ThermoTemp XL 40" Vertical Propane Smoker
Gas Grill:
BBQPro (cheap big box store model) Stainless steel 4 burnerswith aftermarket rotisserie.
Charcoal Grill:
Weber Smokey Joe Charcoal Grill 14"
Thermometer:​​​​​​
Fireboard 2 with Drive cable and 20 CFM fan and Competition Probe Package
Fireboard 1st Generation
ThermoWorks Mini Instant Read
Lavaworks Thermowand Instant Read
2 Maverick 733
ThermoWorks IR-GUN-S Industrial Infrared Thermometer
ThermoWorks ThermaPen Mk4 x 2
Govee Bluetooth Thermometer with 6 probes
Miscellaneous:
Anova Sous Vide Immersion Circulator - 1st generation
Anova Sous Vide Immersion Circulator - wifi/bluetooth connected
Favorite Beer:
Anything to the dark side and malty rather than hoppy. Currently liking Yuengling Porter and Newcastle Brown Ale. In a bar or pub I will often default to Guiness
Favorite Spirit:
Bourbon - Eagle Rare for "every day"; Angel's Envy for special occasions, Basil Hayden's, Larceny
Favorite Wine:
Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon Super Tuscan Sangiovese (Including Chianti Classico Riserva) Brunello di Montalcino
Favorite Meat(s):
Pork - especially the darker meat. I love spare ribs and anything made from shoulder/butt meat
Chicken - Mainly the dark meat and wings
Beef Ribeye steak
Favorite Cuisine to Cook:
Can't list just one: Indian, Chinese, Thai, West Indian/Carribean, Hispanic/Latin American, Ethiopian, Italian, BBQ
Favorite Cuisine to Eat:
Indian, followed closely by BBQ.
Disqus ID:
David E. Waterbury
I ended up leaving it attached. But I really appreciate all of the advice. I cut the butt into 2 hunks a la Huskee but did a crap job (out of practice?) and ended up with the boneless hunk at 2.7 lbs and the one with the bone at 4.3. i have them separately probed so I can pull them off when each hits my target temp. Pix later. They went on the Thermotemp XL at 7 a.m. I'll tell you, that thing, so far is doing an awesome job of holding temp within a degree or 2 of where I set the dial.
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jfmorris - First, congratulations on Yvonne getting discharged and able to be at home with you. Now, to answer your question, I use chunks and there is plenty of smoke/smoke flavor. I have occasionally added a few chips as well to jump start the production of smoke, but the last couple of times I went straight chunks with excellent results.
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Thanks! She is doing so much better even now, not even a day after getting home.
How many chunks and what size chunks will that round smoke pan hold? I've looked at videos, and saw the pan on a bracket on the inside of the door, but was unsure it could handle chunks since it had a lid. The pan must be bigger than it looks on my computer screen, haha.
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jfmorris - the pan is small-ish, or, rather, shallow, but the lid is just attached by a tab that fits in a slot in the pan. It is easy to remove, or, you can leave it attached and just drop it onto the chunks and it doesn't matter if it's propped open by them, which is what I usually do. It will hold several decent sized chunks, if you want. Today, I just put in one at a time every 45 to an hour. The bracket is sturdy.Last edited by Dewesq55; June 12, 2020, 02:03 PM.
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I personally remove the fat cap and I would remove that one in your pic too (just what I do). To me, it doesn’t render all that well, it doesn’t do very much except prevent rub getting on the meat. Plus, like others have already mentioned, there’s plenty of fat running throughout the meat to keep it moist.
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Club Member
- Jul 2017
- 1408
- Southeast Illinois
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Cookers I have:
Weber S-335 gas grill
Weber 26†kettle
Weber 22†kettle
Camp Chef XL Smoke Vault
Camp Chef 3 Burner cook top
Camp Chef Woodwind 36 Pellet grill with sidekick burner
PBC
Accessories:
SnS XL
SnS standard
Vortex
Weber Rotisserie for 22†Kettle
1st gen FireBoard
2nd gen FireBoard
Griddle for Camp Chef cooktop
Several Thermoworks items
Set of Grill Grates
I trim as much as I can, I’ll even dig behind the money muscle and take a lot of that fat line out. I usually wrap and this helps give me slightly better bark because I don’t end up with as much liquid in wrap. I don’t think there’s a wrong or right way, it’s just how you want to do it.
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