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    This mornings bakes.

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      Terrible as usual, Richard Chrz Mostly for our egos.

      EDIT: It's not as pretty as yours, but here's my loaf from this morning... 90% Trailblazer bread flour, 10% spelt, smells great.

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      • SheilaAnn
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        rickgregory got any shots of slices? I love seeing the crumb!

      SheilaAnn - thanks for the reminder. Was still warm when I took that shot and I let bread cool before slicing. Here's are crumb shots from this morning. Crumb is soft, but not at all gummy.

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      • rickgregory
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        This is a 70% hydration dough with 90% Trailblazer bread flour and 10% spelt (600g Trailblazer, 60g spelt). 2% salt, 10% levain (67g) and about 25g of honey.

        Autolysed for 1 hour, mixed in the KA for 5 minutes, then into bulk for about 5 hours at 76F. Three stretch and folds at the front end of bulk, 30 minutes apart. After bulk, preshaped, shaped, into a pullman loaf pan and into the fridge overnight. Baked the next morning at 400F, 20 mins with steam, 25 without.
        Last edited by rickgregory; June 25, 2022, 12:14 PM.

      • Mark V
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        Very nice!

      • SheilaAnn
        SheilaAnn commented
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        rickgregory fantastic!

      Got myself a kamado 16” baking steel for my birthday. I figure I can use it inside in the oven like tonight and also in the SNS kamado. Broke it in with some bread. Never baked without a DO before. First loaf was a big disappointment. I had filled the half sheet pan underneath with water. Not enough steam. Second loaf I soaked some cloths on the pan and the steam and oven spring were way better. Can’t wait to make a pizza on it.
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      • jhapka
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        rickgregory that’s the beauty of the eaters: ugly on the outside but still delicious bread on the inside

      • SheilaAnn
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        jhapka I am banning "eaters" from your vocabulary. Cuz they ain’t ugly!

      • jhapka
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        SheilaAnn I guess I’ll have to say what Jon Favreau in Chef Show says in the bread episode: "that one’s for grilled cheese."

      A few baguettes from today.

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        I have to say, Richard Chrz I have bought bread from most of the artisan bakeries around me. They don't look as good as yours. I have no problem with what I make myself, although I always try to do better. You have certainly set a high bar! Keeps me interested in doing better myself.
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        • hoovarmin
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          I concur!

        • Richard Chrz
          Richard Chrz commented
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          Very kind of you to say. I feel like I am still so new at cooking (smoking and baking) I respect the entire craft, and the crafts that support home cooking. I have appreciated good words here, and really good reviews from my customers. I hope to always see better questions after each cook/bake, I am glad that you are staying interested in the process as well!

        Company bake-off tomorrow. I’m up against lots of refined sugary goodness so I’m not hoping to win but maybe I’ll get somebody into bread
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        • Richard Chrz
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          How did the bake off go today? Bet that bread was devoured.

        • jhapka
          jhapka commented
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          Richard Chrz tied for best taste with strawberry cheesecake. Second in best appearance behind strawberry cheesecake. I’ll take it

        • RonB
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          They look great to me.

        Baked only one today,I still have some test batches cold fermenting.

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        • Philotius
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          Oh my gosh, Same boat, no where near your quality but been experimenting with long slow bulk with a "quick" hotter final. I feel like I’m getting close

        My test experiment’s. Someone asked if I could help them design a loaf to go with their charcuterie sandwiches. One is my first shot at it, it is a 300 gram loaf at 11 inches. Looking forward to cutting it open, I did a lot of stuff wrong on purpose, just to see what will need to be done, also, had some sourdough ready for bread, but, I was to wiped to bake them yesterday. So I did a ton of stuff wrong on that, but I don’t mind learning, often I do stuff different, just to make sure to rule it out as a step. Then last a photo of my sourdough pizza dough, this is a 72-96 hour ferment pizza dough, I always enjoy watching the fermentation trails build.

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          Cut open the test bake above.

          what makes this a test loaf. I was tired and did not feel like working with bread anymore by Tuesday, but, I had started this dough, and it was only about 4 hours in after initial mix, and some folds. I just left put it in a cambro and put it in the fridge, knowing slow fermentation will happen. Literally shaped it for about 10 minutes, threw it in the fridge again for 2 hours, then baked. With very little shaping ( almost none), and all the other steps I take, I was expecting less then this even. There are some bad air pockets in this one. But again, for doing almost nothing the way I normally do, I’m pleased with the lazy bake.

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          • Richard Chrz
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            This loaf went on the pizza steel and fell down to almost an inch coming off the peel ( I expected that, I did not expect it to recover in 15 minutes,

          Cut open the sandwich roll.

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          • rickgregory
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            Nice job shaping that loaf.

          • hoovarmin
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            I'm spreading Camembert and all over that in my mind right now. Can't wait til I can make bread like that.

          • jhapka
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            Love these

          I've been baking pan loaves for sandwiches and got bored with that so I broke out my new clay batard cloche from Breadtopia along with the new banneton and baked up this:



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          Crumb....
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          • snowswamp
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            Awesome! I have some Breadtopia items on the way.

          This mornings bakes. Second swing on my sourdough sandwich roll. Next will be to cut more weight, increase= starter, and then 2 of my standards, and a close up on the rolls. I will cut one open later and share.

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          • rickgregory
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            Are those your SD bread just a different size/shape or is this a more ciabatta-like formula?

          • Richard Chrz
            Richard Chrz commented
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            I’m working it with maybe a few similarities, yet I’m not following anything, just going off what I would want for it. Developing the bake for a friend who ages his own charcuterie. He asked if I could help him develop a bun for it.

          • hoovarmin
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            So nice

          Second bake from my starter, another Pain de Campaigne. When I went to turn them out of the proofing baskets they stuck and tore. I haven't cut into them yet. One is going to a neighbor, the other will be used for Patty Melts tomorrow.

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          • Elton's BBQ
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            I bet those are good!

          • jhapka
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            How were they when you sliced in?

          • hoovarmin
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            jhapka they were fantastic!

          My cutting was poor. I moved it into a lower percentage, I shortened the length and opened the width a bit to handle larger toppings in a more manageable experience. I’m moving the right direction on these.


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          • jhapka
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            hoovarmin I always spray four sprays of water on the loaf when baking with a DO

          • hoovarmin
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            jhapka do you put the lid on your DO for the first part of the cook?

          • jhapka
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            hoovarmin yep 500 F lid on 20 minutes then 450 F lid off 20 minutes

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