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  • MadUncleAndy
    Club Member
    • Dec 2018
    • 20
    • Dacula, GA

    Smoker temp dipped...food still safe?

    Hi Guys,

    I did an overnight cook last night. It's a 5 lb pork butt. At 5am, the meat was in the 170s. When I woke again at 8, both the meat and the pit were in the low 150s. I've added new coals and the meat is back up to 169 now. I'm imagining I'm okeay since it didn't get down below 140, but when I touched the bark, it didn't feel particularly warm, so thought I'd ask some more experienced smokers.

    Thanks ahead!
  • Mr. Bones
    Birthday Hat Master
    • Sep 2016
    • 9295
    • Kansas Territory
    • Grills / Smokers
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      Weber Smokey Joe ($25 CL) 'Lil' Brother'
      Weber 22.5 Master Touch '93 P Code Blue($85) from fellow WKC member Bmitch 'Elwood'
      Weber 22.5 Bar-B-Q Kettle '69-'70 "Patent Pending" Red ($80) from fellow WKC member dwnthehatch 'Maureen'
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      Weber "C" Code 18.5" WSM '81 ($50 CL) 8-0!!!
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    #2
    Very short timeframe, temps within safe range...I'd say yer good to go...
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    • jgreen
      Charter Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 2720
      • Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
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        Broil King XL
        Broil King Smoke
        Weber Kettle 26
        Grilla Pellet smoker
        Capital 40 natural gas
        Napoleon Pro 22 kettle

        Thermometer:
        Maverick 733
        Thermapen (ok..4 thermapens)
        Thermo works DOT (or two)
        Fireboard (probably my favourite)
        Thermworks Smoke (or two)

        Accessories:
        SnS (original, plus and XL)
        DnG pans, 6 or 7 of these
        Vortex
        Grillgrates
        and, maybe some other toys as well

      #3
      Especially given the meat got into the 170’s so it should be well past the danger point, I would say no problem with the fairly short drop. Cook on!

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      • SmokeyGator
        Club Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 827
        • Miami, FL
        • Primo XL
          Cyberq controller
          Sierra Nevada IPA

        #4
        It’s probably OK. And here is my thinking process.

        1. Internal temperature got to 170, in the “safe” zone.
        2. Cooker temperature fell to 150, so the meat couldn’t have fallen lower than that
        3. Since the cooker was operating at normal temperature (I’m assuming 225-250) it is unlikely any nasty bugs were able to make their way in, and whatever nasties that may have been in the cooker got scorched

        The only thing is that the meat might be drier than usual, because of the double cook.

        At least that is my thinking. Let’s see who else chimes in.

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        • tRidiot
          Club Member
          • Dec 2015
          • 681
          • NE OK
          • Traeger BBQ124
            Yoder YS480
            Chargriller Duo gas/charcoal side-by side

          #5
          Not a problem at all. Smoke on!

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          • MadUncleAndy
            Club Member
            • Dec 2018
            • 20
            • Dacula, GA

            #6
            Thanks, Gents! Very much appreciated!

            Yep, most of the cook was 220-250. It spiked to 270 after I added fuel a little while ago (turned one of my vents the wrong way, but now that's fixed, temp is dropping again, and it's around 260 now. Meat's up to 182, and I think I''m just about out of the stall.

            @Mr.Bones, I love that graphic!

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            • Mr. Bones
              Mr. Bones commented
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              Thanks fer them kind words, an best of luck with yer cook, amigo!

              I'm honoured that ya enjoyed my artwork!
          • FireMan
            Charter Member
            • Jul 2015
            • 7678
            • Bottom of Winnebago

            #7
            Then you always have a recommendation I gave to a fellow member. Is there a neighbor you don’t get along with or a brother in-law you’re on the outs with.

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            • RonB
              Club Member
              • Apr 2016
              • 12710
              • Near Richmond VA
              • Weber Performer Deluxe
                SNS
                Pizza insert
                Rotisserie
                Smokenator 1000
                Cookshack Smokette Elite
                2 Thermapens
                Chefalarm
                Dot
                lots of probes.
                CyberQ

              #8
              I've said ths before, but it's worth repeating. If you are worried about food safety, let you mother in law try it. If she doesn't get sick, it's good to go.

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              • phrogpilot73
                Club Member
                • Oct 2017
                • 133
                • Virginia Beach, VA
                • Outdoor Equipment
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                    • Pellet Pro by Smoke Daddy Controller
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                  • Char-Broil The Big Easy Tru Infrared
                  • Margaritaville Tailgating Grill
                  • iGrill 2 with ambient probe


                  Indoor Equipment
                  • Anova Precision Cooker
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                  • FreshRoast SR500 Coffee Roaster
                  • T-Fal EZ-Clean Oil Filtration Fryer


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                #9
                Temperature danger zone is 41-135, you can hold above that no problem. If it's long enough, you pasteurize the meat

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