> Weber Genesis EP-330
> Grilla Grills Original Grilla (OG) pellet smoker with Alpha/Connect
> Pit Barrel Cooker (gone to a new home)
> WeberQ 2000 (on "loan" to a relative (I'll never see it again))
> Old Smokey Electric (for chickens mostly - when it's too nasty out
to fiddle with a more capable cooker)
> Luhr Jensen Little Chief Electric - Top Loader circa 1990 (smoked fish & jerky)
> Thermoworks Smoke
> 3 Thermoworks Chef Alarms
> Thermoworks Thermapen One
> Thermoworks Thermapen Classic
> Thermoworks Thermopop
> Thermoworks IR-GUN-S
> Anova sous vide circulator
> Searzall torch
> BBQ Guru Rib Ring
> WÜSTHOF, Dalstrong, and Buck knives
> Paprika App on Mac and iOS
I HATE dealing with intermittent problems almost as much as I hate reporting them and yet ... Running Safari 16.2 on iMac (MacOS Ventura 13.1): Once in a while, the Pit stops responding to mouse-overs and clicks. I can restore things by simply closing and restarting Safari ... until it happens again. I haven't seen the problem on any other sites (could it be vBulletin?) and can't predictably reproduce the problem. I haven't experienced the same issue with Safari on either iOS or iPadOS.
Let me know if you need anything any more specific, RayJ ...
Hmmm. I'll keep an eye out for this, as most of my daytime surfing is from an iMac 27 (Intel) also running Ventura 13.1 and latest Safari. I've not noticed this, but will pay attention.
Yes. Intermittent problems are the worst. Never a simple or clear cause and effect. Painful debugging techniques required to find the cause. Fix, save, refresh, nope - fix, save, refresh, nope -fix, save, refresh, nope - for hours.... no joy.
I would normally start with Safari as the potential culprit. But this exact same thing happened to me a few days ago. On Firefox.
So that would indicate that it is the site. And since hovers and (most) clicks are controlled by CSS and Javascript respectively, I am thinking that something is not loading correctly or the cache (site or browser) is getting corrupted.
You can help. If it happens again, try to get the Browser Console to display. On Firefox and Chrome it is CTRL+Shift+I and click the Console tab (be sure all the views are enabled: error, css, warnings...). No sure if that is the same for Safari.
You should be able to right click on the console and Copy All Messages. A screen shot will work as well.
Just checking in, RayJ. I’ve spent several hours attempting to replicate the reported issue … but no joy. I’ll keep trying and will let you know if there’s anything to share.
I HATE dealing with intermittent problems almost as much as I hate reporting them and yet ... Running Safari 16.2 on iMac (MacOS Ventura 13.1): Once in a while, the Pit stops responding to mouse-overs and clicks. I can restore things by simply closing and restarting Safari ... until it happens again. I haven't seen the problem on any other sites (could it be vBulletin?) and can't predictably reproduce the problem. I haven't experienced the same issue with Safari on either iOS or iPadOS.
Let me know if you need anything any more specific, RayJ ...
Venture 13.2 is out - update and see if that fixes it.
Do you have this problem with any other browser?
I won't be making any version changes until I've been able to replicate the issue ... and "no" to your question about other browsers. That proves nothing however as I rarely use another browser.
> Weber Genesis EP-330
> Grilla Grills Original Grilla (OG) pellet smoker with Alpha/Connect
> Pit Barrel Cooker (gone to a new home)
> WeberQ 2000 (on "loan" to a relative (I'll never see it again))
> Old Smokey Electric (for chickens mostly - when it's too nasty out
to fiddle with a more capable cooker)
> Luhr Jensen Little Chief Electric - Top Loader circa 1990 (smoked fish & jerky)
> Thermoworks Smoke
> 3 Thermoworks Chef Alarms
> Thermoworks Thermapen One
> Thermoworks Thermapen Classic
> Thermoworks Thermopop
> Thermoworks IR-GUN-S
> Anova sous vide circulator
> Searzall torch
> BBQ Guru Rib Ring
> WÜSTHOF, Dalstrong, and Buck knives
> Paprika App on Mac and iOS
Hey RayJ - been digging and I'm pretty much convinced that the problem I've had with Safari is specifically a Safari issue and is almost certainly not the fault of the Pit. If anything happens to make me suspect otherwise, I'll file a new bug report ... but for now, you can close this puppy!
I suspect cache (as usual) as mouse-over/hover actions are CSS based and (many) clicks are Javascript based. When it happens again, try reload the page or even restarting Safari.
Some info on how to do that.
To reload a page, choose View > Reload Page, or press Command-R.
To restart Safari, Command-Q to quit Safari. If Safari doesn't quit, press Option-Command-Esc to force Safari to quit.
I have been trying to find more info and it does seem that Safari in particular has this issue.
Here are some articles that may help identify the cause. I
If Safari on Mac doesn't open a webpage or isn’t working as expected
Comment