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- May 2014
- 20101
- Clare, Michigan area
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Follow me on Instagram, huskeesbarbecue
Smokers / Grills- Yoder loaded Wichita offset smoker
- PBC
- Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
- Slow 'N Sear Master Kettle (cart-mounted)
- Slow 'N Sear Travel Kettle
- Masterbuilt Gravity 560
- Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
- Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (light blue)
- Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
- Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
- Traeger Flatrock Griddle
Thermometers- SnS 500 4-probe wireless
- (3) Maverick XR-50 4-probe Wireless Thermometers
- A few straggler Maverick ET-732s
- Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
- Smoke X4 by ThermoWorks
- Thermapen MkII, orange & purple
- ThermoPop, yellow, plus a few more in a drawer for gifts
- ThermoWorks ChefAlarm (wife's)
- Morpilot 6-probe wireless
- ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
- ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well
Accessories- Instant Pot 6qt
- Anova Bluetooth SV
- Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
- Kindling Cracker King (XL)
- a couple BBQ Dragons
- Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
- Weber grill topper
- Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
- Drip 'N Griddle Pans, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by SnSGrills
- Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter
Beverages- Favorite summer beers: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold & Lime
- Fav other beers: Zombie Dust (an IPA by 3 Floyd's Brewing), Austin Bros IPA, DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
- Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
- Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
- Wine: Red - big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
- Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig Toasted. Neat please.
- Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.
About me
Real name: Aaron
Location: Farwell, Michigan - near Clare (dead center of lower peninsula).
Occupation:- Healthcare- Licensed & Registered Respiratory Therapist (RRT) at MyMichigan Health, a University of Michigan Health System.
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- Jul 2014
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Grill/Smoke/Roast = SnS Grills Kettle + SnS Deluxe Insert & Drip n' Griddle
Grill/Smoke/Roast = Hasty-Bake Gourmet Dual Finish with HB rotisserie and Grill Grates
Smoke = Weber Smokey Mountain 22.5"
Pizza = Blackstone Propane Pizza Oven (Stacy's, but she let's me use it sometimes)
Indoor Cooking = LG Studio 30" gas range
Camp Cooking = Coleman 2 burner white gas stove
Thermometer = FireBoard FBX2 with 2 ambient and 6 meat probes
Thermapen Mk IV = Light blue
Thermapen Mk IV = Black
PID Controller = Fireboard Drive + Auber 20 CFM Fan (FB gen 1 fan)
PID Controller = Fireboard Drive + Fireboard 20 CFM Fan (FB gen 2 fan)
Knives
Wusthof Classic Ikon set: 9" carving knive, 2X 8" Chef's Knife, 7" Santoku and three utility knives
Kamikoto Kuro set: 7" Santoku, 6.5" Nakiri, 5" Utility
Amazing Ribs Brazilian Steak knife set
Favorite wine = whatever is currently in the wine rack
Favorite beer = Sam Adams Boston Lager or Shiner Bock
Favorite whisky = Lagavulin Distiller's Edition 16 year old single malt
Best Cookbooks - Meathead's "The Science of Great Barbecue and Grilling", Chris Lilly's "Big Bob Gibson's BBQ Book", Aaron Franklin's "Franklin BBQ"
Cookbooks to check out - Raichlen's "Brisket Chronicles" and anything by Adam Perry Lang.
Current fanboy cookbook - "Chasing Smoke: Cooking Over Fire Around the Levant"
Some Posts in Pitmaster to check out:
Eric's Brisket Method
Eric's Method for Drunken Texas Beans
Stacy's Bouef Bourguignon
Eric's Smoked Texas Chili
Rancho Gordo Beans and Bean Club
Troutman's Ribs - Step By Step Primer
Grilled Pork Chops: Harissa Marinade
Light My (Hasty Bake) Fire
Eric
heh, I have the same problem with my dogs and the grease trap system on my Hasty-Bake Gourmet ..... one of my mutts will crawl under the cover and go after the grease. I used the same solution as Meathead and removed the grease trap system. Not a big deal since I have a pan on the indirect side and Grill Grates on the direct side.
I am curious if you would add Grill Grates to the 357 Meathead?
seriously considering putting this on my wishlist and selling my Gourmet
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- 1858
- Salado, Tx
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Summerset TRL44 gas grill and side sear
Weber Performer
Weber 70th Anniversary kettle, Hot Rod Yellow
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4 burner propane stove
OT QOMOTOP 23-inch Gas Griddle
Pit Boss Ultimate 4 burner griddle
Oklahoma Joe's HD orange Bronco
Oklahoma Joe's Bronco Pro
Oklahoma Joe's Judge
Oklahoma Joe's Rambler
Golden's Cast Iron Grill
Ooni Koda 16
Halo Versa 16
Everdure Kiln R pizza oven
Everdure rotisserie grill
Titan Santa Maria grill
Coyote Pellet grill
Hasty Bake Roughneck smoker
LSG 48" Texas Edition offset
Spider Grills Huntsman
So, the former marketing/business owner guy inside me enjoys watching the variety of reactions to features/price evaluation. Each customer brings their own set of priorities, beliefs, and values to the equation. Though MH doesn't emphasize it for the sake of this discussion I'll assume (oy) that this is made up of all/mostly 304 stainless steel. Which brings up the idea of marketing "tricks" that the overall marketplace plays. Most of the commodity cookers as well as some of the more "mid-range" products tout their use of stainless steel as if all stainless steel is equal in quality/performance. They typically will use 430 grade, which is not a bad product, but lacks the higher chromium content of 304, which, for most folks, equates to greater corrosion resistance. The old "trick" of, "will a magnet stick" is a common test. A magnet will stick to 430 but not to 304, a result of that chromium content. Just to frame the difference in a different light, a 16ga, 4' x 8' sheet of 304 at retail is somewhere around $1250 (pre corona virus), a similar sheet of 430 nearly half. Sure, larger scale manufacturers don't pay retail, but those figures are for comparison, not cost accounting. Now, if you're going to let your MCS run wild and flip cookers on your patio with some regularity, the longevity benefits of 304 probably don't mean much. But for those who value longevity, and as MH offered, pass the cooker on to life survivors, then the price premium for 304 is more meaningful. Form or function? You makes your choices and picks your weapons. For comparable sized and featured charcoal cookers in the marketplace this isn't so crazily priced (though crowding the upper end by my views). Anything you compare to that is significantly lower in cost, while maybe still giving you (based on your own priorities) equal outcomes, is not going to likely last as well...………..but that isn't what you're after..
BTW MH, cute trick with the bricks to manage the fire progression.
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Uncle Bob great point about the quality of the SS. I have a Hasty-Bake Gourmet. Owned it for 10 years. The only thing I’ve had to replace is the nut on the fire door handle. Troutman I love my WSM 22, but I do not believe that it is something that my kids will inherit. I do believe that about my Hasty-Bake.
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Administrator
- May 2014
- 20101
- Clare, Michigan area
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Follow me on Instagram, huskeesbarbecue
Smokers / Grills- Yoder loaded Wichita offset smoker
- PBC
- Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
- Slow 'N Sear Master Kettle (cart-mounted)
- Slow 'N Sear Travel Kettle
- Masterbuilt Gravity 560
- Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
- Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (light blue)
- Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
- Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
- Traeger Flatrock Griddle
Thermometers- SnS 500 4-probe wireless
- (3) Maverick XR-50 4-probe Wireless Thermometers
- A few straggler Maverick ET-732s
- Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
- Smoke X4 by ThermoWorks
- Thermapen MkII, orange & purple
- ThermoPop, yellow, plus a few more in a drawer for gifts
- ThermoWorks ChefAlarm (wife's)
- Morpilot 6-probe wireless
- ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
- ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well
Accessories- Instant Pot 6qt
- Anova Bluetooth SV
- Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
- Kindling Cracker King (XL)
- a couple BBQ Dragons
- Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
- Weber grill topper
- Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
- Drip 'N Griddle Pans, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by SnSGrills
- Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter
Beverages- Favorite summer beers: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold & Lime
- Fav other beers: Zombie Dust (an IPA by 3 Floyd's Brewing), Austin Bros IPA, DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
- Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
- Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
- Wine: Red - big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
- Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig Toasted. Neat please.
- Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.
About me
Real name: Aaron
Location: Farwell, Michigan - near Clare (dead center of lower peninsula).
Occupation:- Healthcare- Licensed & Registered Respiratory Therapist (RRT) at MyMichigan Health, a University of Michigan Health System.
Both affordable every-man cookers and luxury cookers get you from point A to B, but it's the ride quality that will likely be different. I bet a Weber kettle and a Hasty-Bake 357's pork chops will taste identical. That ends the story for many of us. There's more to it than that though, from nearly every angle. That said, I will probably never be in the "yeah, I think I'll order that cooker" camp. Not unless I score one heck of a raise sometime soon, or my kid lands a job as a child actor on a Disney show (attention Disney casting directors...)..... Kalamazoo and Fire Magic all come to mind in that regard as well. Surely the Ferrari and Mercedes of their species.
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The point of the suitcase story is that sometimes the thing we believe is too expensive for the initial price turns out to be very cost beneficial over the long run. I firmly believe this to be the case with Hasty-Bake. I’ve owned my Gourmet for 10 years and love it. I expect it to outlast me
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ecowper While I sorta agree on some more costly items outlasting the less costly ones, I would add that my Aussie gasser that I bought almost 20 years back lasted 15 with no issues or replacements. Back then it cost me ~$300. Sometimes, some things are just more expensive because of the name. Many factors come in to play beyond the brand.
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Uncle Bob Interesting post. So right about stainless steel. The new marketing hype is fascinated with materials: Aircraft grade aluminum, engineered resins (aka plastic), etc. I've found stainless steel on my Weber and on some other accessories (top of Keter outdoor prep table, etc.) to easily rust and be hard to clean. Only resemblance to really good stainless steel is the color when brand new.
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This grill definitely interests me but with all of my fire management issues I have with my Legacy which I'm not sure will be any different with this newer one, I would be hard pressed to pull the trigger, especially at that price. I would probably get the M Grills stainless steel M1 before this one even though it has less cooking room.
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