Due to a fire last weekend at the company where we usually get the Turkey for Thanksgiving Ive decided to smoke a turkey breast instead. There are usually lots of leftovers that my wife uses for the next week, I will take care of that by smoking a tester this weekend. So hopefully everything will get eaten on Thanksgiving and there won’t be a lot if carving and other work going on.
ive seen Meatheads recipie and figure that’s a good start unless someone has another idea.
Meatheads is my go to, but I have done other things too, like slather one with a compound butter containing garlic and herbs, butter and honey and black pepper and BBQ sauce. When I use butter I go low and slow and give up the crispy skin for bite through. If you have a sous vide, using Kenji's with short time on the smoker before is a good one too. I have not done the crispy skin part of the recipe.
I’m not doing a whole turkey this year as it will
be four of us but I’d like to still do a turkey breast. Meathead calls for 325 on the indirect side. I heard Dave Chang mention that he smoked a turkey at 205. Obviously lower heat takes longer but what would be the benefits of smoking/cooking at a lower temp?
Welcome to The Pit. Most here cook turkey hot so that the skin will crisp up. I've never cooked one at that low of a temp, so I don't know how the skin turns out.
Here is one I have used with gravy. I cooked it low so I forfeited the skin which is not a big deal to me.
I did this on my Yoder using pecan/cherry pellet mix a few times. This year I'm doing both a breast and whole bird in my LSG cabinet with charcoal and cherry chunks.
Smoked Turkey Breast
Yields: 1-3 to 5 lb turkey breast
Ingredients:
1-3 to 5 lb bone in turkey breast, skin removed
1 cup coarse salt
8 peppercorns
1 cup sugar
or
brine mix of choice
Duct fat, optional
3 to 5 teaspoon (1 tsp. per pound meat) Rub (I used Cattleman’s Grill Ranchero rub)
3 onions, chopped
3 celery ribs, chopped
2 carrots, peeled and chopped
6 garlic cloves, peeled and crushed
2 bay leaves
6 sprigs fresh thyme
6 sprigs fresh parsley
½ ounce dried porcini mushrooms, rinsed
4 tablespoons unsalted butter, melted
8 tablespoons flour
Chicken broth to make 3 cups
1 cup dry white wine
2 tablespoons unsalted butter
Preparation:
1.Use brine mix as directed or dissolve salt, pepper, and sugar in 2 gallons of cold water in a large container. Submerge turkey pieces in brine, cover and refrigerate for 3 to 6 hours.
2. Pat turkey breast dry and coat with Duck fat or ‘Cue Glue if using. Sprinkle all sides with choice of seasoning.
3.Prepare smoker with wood of choice and preheat to a temperature of 225°F. Optionally add smoker tube for additional smoke in a pellet cooker.
4.Toss onions, celery, carrots, garlic, bay leaves, thyme, parsley, porcini and 4 tbsp butter in large roasting pan; arrange in even layer. Place turkey skin side up, over vegetables.
5. Place turkey breast in the smoker and smoke for 2 hours at 225°F. Raise temp to 275°F until the internal temperature of the thickest part of the breast reaches 165°F; about 3 to 4 hours total depending on the size of the breast. Flip breast if browning to fast. Remove breast from smoker and let rest for 30 min.
6.Strain vegetables and liquid from roasting pan through fine-mesh strainer set in large bowl. Press solids to extract as much liquid as possible. Discard vegetables. Transfer liquid to fat separator; allow to settle, 5 minutes. Reserve 8 tbsp fat (top) and measure out 3 cups braising liquid. (reserve any remaining broth for another use or add chicken broth to make 3 cups)(use duct fat if needed)
7.Heat reserved fat in medium saucepan over med-high heat. Add flour and cook, stirring constantly, until flour is dark golden brown and fragrant, about 5 minutes. Whisk in 3 cups braising liquid and bring to boil. Reduce heat to med-low and simmer, stirring occasionally, until gravy is thick and reduced to about 2 cups, 15 to 20 minutes. Add 2 tbsp butter for richer gray stir to blend. Remove gravy from heat and season with salt and pepper to taste.
8.Carve turkey and serve, passing gravy separately.
I grabbed a part of a turkey breast, about 2.5 lbs. It didn't have full skin coverage, so I carefully peeled what skin it had (about 50% coverage) and then sprinkled on salt and pepper. After that I slathered in a compound butter made from regular unsalted butter and dried Italian seasoning and covered it with the skin.
Then, because I didn't have full coverage of the skin, I wrapped it in thin cut bacon and tied it all up with twine. Popped it in the freezer (this was all yesterday) and will pull it out Tuesday to smoke on the Weber kettle. I actually think I'll do this in the Smokey Joe since it's small and I want the bacon to crisp. I could do it in the 22" but would be a lot more coals to get it to 325.
No rub? Nope. I wanted a close to traditional turkey flavor, but with some smoke.
Last edited by rickgregory; November 21, 2020, 02:11 PM.
After looking through all the suggestions I decided to give a test cook to Malcom Reed’s bacon wrapped turkey breast. Turned out wonderful even though I cooked it cooler than recommended. Then plan was to do that and a simple one for anyone who who wanted a healthier choice. Unfortunately things got called off because of too many cancellations due to the nonsense virus. So I’m going to cook another one just for the family and send pics to everyone who canceled.
I'm going with a single breast for the 2 of us, and will probably go with Malcom Reed's Honey-something recipe. My question is whether to do it on my Weber w/SnS, or on the PBC. If I do it on the PBC, I don't think it will hang. I haven't seen any threads about doing it in the PBC (with approximate times) though. I'd appreciate your thoughts (and suggestions). Thanks.
I too am going with a turkey breast this year. I plan on trying Samin Nosrat’s ("Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat") recipe for buttermilk brined turkey. The recipe calls for the oven, so I might split the breast and do half in the oven and half on the PK360. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/d...in-nosrat.html
I am doing only turkey breast this year. You can go the the bottom of this thread for my post and recipe. Note, I am obviously skipping the turkey cavity part. HA.
I followed Franklin’s recipe today, but I think I should have pulled it at 155 and let it rise to 160. The internal temp got away from me and I pulled it at 164 and it rose to over 170.
@mmmllrr that’s the one. I did it at 250, but he called for 265. I am not a Turkey fan, so my wife was pleased that I will do it again. I liked it, but as I mentioned above I would pull the next one at 155 and let the carry over take it to 160.
My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:
SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron Griddle
Grill Grate for SnS
Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:
Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:
Thermapen MK4 (pink)
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:
8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
mmmllrrr , I smoked a couple of turkey breasts using Franklin's recipe and they turned out amazing. Here's the post I wrote about the cook. I was inspired to use this recipe by another member, Steve R. , whom I mention in that post. (I also used his photos in that post, since I quoted his previous post.) Read the next post in that topic as well for more details.
What are the best things to make on short smokes? I can barely get out there to use my WSM. Any tips on things that work well on 5 hours or less smokes?
That Franklin recipe makes a fantastic turkey breast.
Green Caribou , I do turkey breasts all the time on the PBC, never wrapping. They smoke to 160° (carryover heat takes them to 165°) in about 1.5 to 2 hours, depending on thickness, if you keep the PBC temp up around 350° or so. Since you'll also have ribs on board, you'll probably run the PBC closer to 250-280°, so the breast might take a little longer. They always turn out nice and juicy. Inject with warm butter. Dry brine with AP rub.
I only wrap for Aaron Franklin's yummy recipe.
Kathryn
Last edited by fzxdoc; December 4, 2020, 02:19 PM.
Thanks. I was thinking I wouldn't dry brine it since it was already wet brined and I don't want it to be too salty. Are you saying i should dry brine it anyway?
Since I'm pretty new to the game I don't have any injection tools.
My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:
SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron Griddle
Grill Grate for SnS
Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:
Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:
Thermapen MK4 (pink)
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:
8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
mmmllrrr , 4.5 lb for two breasts is pretty small. Usually I look for 3-4 lb per split breast. It may do fine spatchcocked. Never done it that way, so can't offer experienced advice.
FWIW, the smallish split breasts I used for the Franklin recipe turned out wonderful. I think the wrapping and braise steps kept them from drying out.
Today I'll be smoking an 8 lb turkey breast spatchcocked. Not using the Franklin recipe though. Hooking and hanging it in the PBC.
Not a fan of S&G rub, although many here are. Too herby for my family, they say. But if you like it, it should work fine--either that or your favorite non-salty rub if you've already dry-brined.
Whatever you choose, I'm sure it will turn out great. Enjoy your turkey cook!
I decided to try it spatchcocked because that’s about the extent of my butchering skills and you are right, they are pretty small. Not that different than a chicken to be honest. I like your idea of finishing in the oven instead of the smoker.
As far as timing, is this something that should finish and then be served almost immediately? I don’t think I’ll have that ability today. Bad idea to smoke it to to 140 and let it sit (at room temp? In the fridge?) and do the butter part to 160?
Today, 11:14 PM mmmllrrr , you're correct. Not a good idea to smoke to 140° and let sit at room temp. From a food safety perspective, the danger zone is 40 to 140°.
Better to do on a day when you can take the turkey breast to 160ish and serve immediately.
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