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    Green spaghetti sauce, 2nd try (this one works)

    First: I’m not taking credit for developing this recipe.

    Homesick Texan claims it’s spun off of Barb’s BQ. Lisa Fain is a James Beard award winning writer of several cookbooks, and counts Chuck Charnichart (owner of Barb’s) as a friend, and first tasted green spaghetti when Chuck brought it to a home barbeque, then developed it from that. Follow the link for the back story, which is a good read, not “my grandmother blah blah blah.”

    This recipe works as a guideline, and I treated it as such. I’ll note my own changes, based on “taste and adjust seasonings”, at the end.

    Green Spaghetti

    Cook Time: 45 minutes | Servings: Servings 8

    Ingredients:
    2 poblano chiles
    1 or 2 jalapeños
    6 cloves garlic
    ¼ cup cilantro
    2 green onions, green part only, chopped
    ½ cup (4 ounces) sour cream
    1 teaspoon ground cumin
    ½ teaspoon kosher salt
    Pinch nutmeg
    Pinch allspice
    1/4 cup grated Parmesan or Cotija cheese, plus more for serving
    1 tablespoon freshly squeezed lime juice
    16 ounces dried spaghetti

    Directions:
    To make the green spaghetti sauce, turn on the broiler and place a rack 5 inches away from the heating element. Line a cast-iron skillet or baking sheet with foil and place the poblano chiles, jalapeño, and garlic on the skillet. Cook under the broiler for 7 minutes, and then remove the skillet from the oven. Remove both the garlic and the jalapeños from the skillet. Turn over the poblano chiles and return the skillet to the oven.
    Continue to broil the chiles for 7 to 8 more minutes or until nicely charred. After this time, remove the skillet from the oven. Wrap the poblano chiles in the foil and let them steam for 20 minutes.
    Place the garlic in a blender. Peel the skin from the jalapeños (it’s okay if not all of it comes off the pepper), then cut in half and remove the seeds. Place the jalapeños in the blender. After 20 minutes, peel and seed the poblanos and add them to the blender, too.
    Also add to the blender the cilantro, green onions, sour cream, cumin, kosher salt, nutmeg, allspice, Parmesan cheese, and lime juice. Blend until smooth, then taste and adjust seasonings.
    Meanwhile, bring a large pot of water to a boil, add salt, then cook the spaghetti according to the package directions until done.
    When the spaghetti is ready, drain and rinse, then return to the pot. Toss with the sauce, then serve warm with Parmesan cheese.


    I didn’t take photos during the process. It went together really fast. I have to assume folks know how to roast stuff under the broiler, and how to use a blender. In some recipes you can sub a food processor for a blender, but this one needs a full-on blender.

    First: I used Mexican crema instead of sour cream. Either will work; the difference in taste is about the same as that of different sour cream brands. But crema is thinner, it pours. I don’t think it will make a difference.

    Second: Poblanos can be HUGE. Mine weren’t. I prepared 3 medium poblanos, started with 2, added half of the 3rd, then the last half.

    Third: Yes, 6 cloves of garlic. And mine were pretty big. But they mellow when you roast them.

    Fourth: I used 2 serranos. I like it spicy. 2 serranos works for me, but you can start with 1 jalapeño and work up from there. A single jalapeño won’t be that hot, with all that dairy in there.

    Fifth: I was tossed on the nutmeg and allspice. Generally I’m not a fan of nutmeg in savory dishes. But they are fine here. But don’t go out and get them if you don’t have them.

    Sixth: I doubled up on the Parmesan. It adds a lot of toothsomeness!

    Seventh: “Blend until smooth” means exactly that. Let it spin for as long as it takes to look smooth and creamy. I blended it for several minutes.

    Eighth: This is the first recipe that took LESS time than it stated! I probably had half an hour invested, from opening the fridge to putting the blender in the dishwasher!


    My memory of Barb’s green spaghetti is mostly of the balance. This recipe is nicely balanced among the poblano, garlic, lime, Parmesan, and cilantro, with the onion, cumin, salt, and pinches all supporting and adding complexity. This is the one that I’m going to accept. Note that the recipe calls for additional Parmesan (or cotija) at time of serving. I’d say queso fresco or queso blanco would also be great!

    It makes this much sauce, which would easily season 8 side dishes of green spaghetti:

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    #2
    Looks great, we are anxious to give it a try after having it at BarbBQ but haven't gotten to it yet. I'll print your recipe. Thanks!!!

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    • Mosca
      Mosca commented
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      I wouldn’t say it’s spot on, but it’s 3 weeks since I tasted it. It’s within normal variance. The basic proportions are right. But everything is measured by numbers and sizes: 2 poblanos, 6 garlic cloves, 2 scallions, etc., 1/4 cup of cilantro and 1/4 cup of Parmesan will vary based on how tightly packed.

      This will get you delicious green spaghetti, and you can think about it and make it personal. Maybe sub out some of the crema for puréed avocado? Make it with Hatch chiles? There’s no limit!

    #3
    In the video on YouTube of Chuck making the Green Spaghett sauce, there's no Green Onion, Garlic, Nutmeg, AllSpice, Cumin, Parmesean, or Lime Juice.

    Maybe she just snuck all 7 of those things in there and they edited all 7 out? But it doesn't appear so, in the video, so who knows.

    Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKKyefvk3rw

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    • Donw
      Donw commented
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      Thank you for posting this video. I did notice that the dairy appeared to have inclusions so maybe some of the listed ingredients above may have been added that way. Of course, we will probably never know. What I do know is that I would definitely eat at Barb’s if ever I get a chance.

    #4
    Originally posted by nikolausp View Post
    In the video on YouTube of Chuck making the Green Spaghett sauce, there's no Green Onion, Garlic, Nutmeg, AllSpice, Cumin, Parmesean, or Lime Juice.

    Maybe she just snuck all 7 of those things in there and they edited all 7 out? But it doesn't appear so, in the video, so who knows.

    Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKKyefvk3rw
    Yep, I watched that video. She also uses cream cheese, which isn’t in this recipe. But I just want to make good green spaghetti. If it tastes good, then it is good. This tastes good! The couple times I tried to duplicate Chuck’s, it wasn’t as good as this; it was way too rich, I used too much cream cheese and other dairy, and eventually I kept adding other stuff until it was just out of hand, and I wound up with a quart of green sauce that I could have said was good… but nobody can taste the photo! This is a good recipe from a respected writer and cookbook author.

    Also, by all accounts, green spaghetti is rustic. It’s a comfort food served in homes in South Texas. That means that it’s like red sauce for Italian pasta. Everybody’s Nonna makes it different. If you didn’t know how to make it, and googled it, you’d get MILLIONS of results! You could go simple and do a Marcella, you could use garlic instead of onions, you could use fresh tomatoes or canned, you could open the refrigerator and the pantry and look at what you have and think, “Hmmm. These might go together!” In every case, what you get will be different… but in every case, you got an odds on chance of it being pretty good, because tomatoes, garlic, basil, onions, etc. Same here, but poblanos, cilantro, garlic, lime.

    I think what you​ run into is that it’s not really a complicated recipe, and there are only a couple ingredients that affect the basic flavor; everything else affects texture, mouthfeel, nuance, etc. You’re going to have poblano, cilantro, garlic, lime, and dairy. Is it important that the dairy is sour cream, or crema, or whole milk and cream cheese? Well, what does it taste like, how you made it? Because if it tastes good, then it is good.

    What intrigues me is that because it is so simple, it can probably take a lot of riffing. Think of it with hatch chiles instead of poblanos. Think of it with RED hatch chiles, as pink spaghetti. Think what it might taste like if you puréed half an avocado into it. Can you spin an habanero in there? Of course you can! What about peanuts, or cashews? My first thought would be “nope,” but then you have to look at salsa macha. (My own thought on all that is, I’ll probably give this a try with the green Hatch peppers; I just found a pack in the freezer when I was defrosting it for the winter. If I had some red Hatch, I’d try that, too. Maybe next year, I don’t want to blow $50 on ordering red hatch chiles right now.)

    Anyhow, yeah, it’s not Barb’s. But because the basic ingredients are pretty much the same, it tastes like green spaghetti!

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      #5
      This reminds me of the lessons learned by the Mitla restaurant in San Bernardino CA. In 1939 the owners had just moved from Mexico to start the restaurant and the wife Lucia who took over the kitchen decided to add hard tacos to the menu. At home hard tacos were something her family ate for Lent. Basically it was a hard taco stuffed with mashed potatoes. She decided in her restaurant she would use spiced ground beef, lettuce, tomatoes and some cheese as the stuffing. People soon started lining up to eat her tacos.

      At the same time a guy from Minnesota had started a hamburger place across the street from the Mitla and it wasn’t going so well and he became envious of the crowds and long lines across the street. Eventually he made the acquaintance of the Rodriguez family and they decided to help him out by teaching him how to make and fry their tacos.

      Soon his small restaurant was selling tacos in competition with the Mitla.

      His name was Glenn Bell and he founded Taco Bell.

      Chuck, learn something from history and hold tight to your green spaghetti recipe. There are Glenn Bell types eyeing you and your successful recipe now.🙂

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        #6
        I found a pretty in depth article about the Mitla restaurant in San Bernadino, CA... and the Taco Bell thing

        Despite Taco Bell's international fame, Mitla Cafe has a place in the history of Mexican American cuisine as the first eatery to serve hard-shell tacos in the United States.

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          #7
          Mosca, I've never heard of green spaghetti. This is a recipe I definitely have to try. Have you added a protein to make it a main meal? Thank you for posting it and thank you for the story behind it and the link. I have already added this to Paprika.

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          • Mosca
            Mosca commented
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            I think it is intended to be a side. If I were to add a protein, I would add chicken. I had it tonight as a side with chicken, and I could see shredding chicken into it. See below.

          #8
          I mixed it sorta 50/50 with puréed avocado (avocado, upper, is a little darker).

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          And served it with a chicken thigh and some beets.

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          The avocado changes it; not better, not worse, just different. Either way is excellent.

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            #9
            I'm gonna toss some shrimp in that garlic butter slurry after it's roasted, then give them a quick sear.... for the green spaghett. Can't go wrong there!

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              #10
              Have you tried cooking rice with it (arroz verde)?

              barelfly Please comment

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              • Mosca
                Mosca commented
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                Nope, but I wonder if the dairy works there. I’ve cooked rice with salsa roja, and with salsa verde, both are excellent.

                I have some left; I’m going to roast a tomatillo and mix it in, see what happens.

              • barelfly
                barelfly commented
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                I’ve never tried something like this before. Glad Mosca has some left over to give it a try. Only thing I see is needing quite a bit of moisture to cook the rice. Or, Perhaps par cooking rice and then mixing this in with a tad more liquid of some sort to finish the rice? Just thinning the green mixture some.

              #11
              Yum Pasta Verde! 😛 need to try that! Pesto pasta comes to mind too.

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                #12
                When we make this the first time I just want it as a side to understand and enjoy. This recipe could definitely include shrimp or chicken as a main course. Like said this recipe can vary quite a bit, you have to experiment and tune it to your liking.

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