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  • (Wildman)
    Former Member
    • May 2015
    • 12
    • South Bay, L.A., California

    Decisions, decisions…Your Opinions, please?

    So, I have a Weber Genesis 3-burner gas grill and love it. I do a pretty good amount of grilling on it - steak, chicken, fish, veggies. I'm looking to add another grill/smoker to my repertoire, charcoal or pellet, (1) to start trying some low-n-slow cooking and smoking and (2) to also give me extra grilling space for when I'm cooking for more than just my family. I've read the Ratings & Reviews, and a few caught my attention: the Camp Chef Pellet DLX, the Akorn Kamado Kooker, and the Weber Master Touch 22" with Slow-N-Sear tool. I would appreciate your opinion on these or any other suggestions you might have for me.
    Thank you!
  • Breadhead
    Banned Former Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 0


    It really depends what you want to do with your new cooker. For what you list of what you normally cook and want to smoke... Your options are broad.

    I'm a Big Green Egg guy. I now own 2 Large BGE's. Kamado's are much more versatile than other cookers. Everything you can cook in your kitchen you can cook on a ceramic... Everything. You can bake pizza and bread much better in a ceramic oven than in your kitchen oven. You can wok Chinese food much better in a ceramic than you can in your kitchen. Ceramic's are great smokers. Ceramic's are great grills... If you know how to set them up. 2-zone cooking on a ceramic is not left and right... It's up and down and heat control.

    A ceramic is expensive, up front. However... Most people NEVER get rid of their Kamado Kooker. Many BGE owner's have had their's for 20 years. If you amortized it over 20 years they are the least expensive kooker available.

    If you have no desire to cook bread, pizza, Chinese food... You don't need a ceramic cooker though.

    For what you say you want to do... If it were me I would look at the Hasty Bake and the PK.
    Last edited by Breadhead; June 12, 2015, 12:21 AM.


    • Jon Solberg
      Former Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 4819

      Keep in mind I'm pretty big on Weber. That said based on the option you listed You cant go wrong with the kettle and Slow n Sear combo for a low and slow/grill combo. This is a very versatile and affordable option that will give you years of service.


      • fzxdoc
        Founding Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 5323
        • My toys:
          Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
          Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks)
          Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill
          Weber Kettle Premium 22"
          Weber Jumbo Joe Premium 22" (a weird little 22" kettle mutant on 22"-long legs) (donated to local battered women's shelter.)
          Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range

          Adrenaline BBQ Company's SnS, DnG and Large Charcoal Basket for WSCGC
          Adrenaline BBQ Company's Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
          Adrenaline BBQ Company's SS Rack for DnG
          Grill Grate for SnS
          Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
          Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650 gasser
          2 Grill Grate Griddles
          Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill

          Fireboard Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
          Fireboard control unit in addition to that in the Extreme BBQ Package
          Additional Fireboard probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
          2 Fireboard Driver Cables
          Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
          Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
          Thermoworks Thermapen MK5 (pink)
          Thermoworks Thermapen MK4 (pink too)
          Thermoworks Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
          Thermoworks Extra Big and Loud Timer
          Thermoworks Timestick Trio
          Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
          Maverick ET 733
          Maverick (Ivation) ET 732

          Grill Pinz
          Vortex (two of them)

          Two Joule Sous Vide devices
          VacMaster Pro 350 Vacuum Sealer
          Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
          Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
          Charcoal Companion TurboQue
          A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets

          BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney

          Shun Classic 8" Chef's Knife
          Shun Classic 6" Chef's Knife
          Shun Classic Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
          Shun Classic 3 1/2 inch Paring Knife

        Have you looked at the Pit Barrel Cooker, Wildman? It's amazing.

        That said, I agree with Jon Solberg--a 22 inch Weber Kettle with a Slow n Sear add-on trumps the PBC for versatility. I'm looking seriously at that combo myself.



        • CurlingDog
          Charter Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 548
          • Port Washington, WI
          • Traeger Jr Elite, Modern Home Products TJK gasser,Char-Broil 26" Round Charcoal Grill CBRMH-2600/S, Weber Smokey Joe, small portable POS charcoal grill, 13.25" GrillGrates, Thermopen, Maverick ET-732, Etekcity Lasergrip 1080 Non-contact Digital Laser Infrared Thermometer
            gorilla gloves, bear paws

          I think you can purchase a PBC, a 22" weber w/SnS and a low end pellet grill (traeger) for the cost of an Egg, but YMMV.


          • smarkley
            Former Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 1426

            I am a PBC guy and I agree with Jon Solberg - You will never be disappointed with a Weber Kettle in your arsenal (I have 2 )

            At this point I am thinking the main 'plus' that PBC brings to the table is the amount of food you can cook (8 ribs, 4 briskets unless you are Jerod Broussard, 2 turkeys, etc ) sorry, I am digressing... A Weber Kettle coupled with the SnS can do everything the PBS does and easier too... Plus you get Awesome Grilling. You will not cook 8 ribs at once, but who needs that many ribs at once anyway? Weber Kettle grills rawk and coupled with the SnS, versatility is off the charts.

            Last edited by smarkley; June 12, 2015, 08:46 AM.


            • FLBuckeye
              Founding Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 565
              • Florida
              • Brand new 26" Weber kettle. Three Weber 22.5"kettles, An 18" Weber kettle.

                Two WSM's, 18.5", one with an extra mid section

                Maverick ET 733 and 732. ThermoWorks RT600C Thermometer & Thermoworks MK4. Two PartyQ's

                Kingsford blue bag
                Royal Oak lump for searing

                Have competed in two BBQ comps and plan on more this year

                Huge fan of The Ohio State University.

              I am a Weber fan through and through. 3 22" kettles, an 18" kettke, and 2 and a half WSM's. When I get the SnS, I will feel complete.


              • Steve Vojtek
                Charter Member
                • Mar 2015
                • 612
                • Melbourne Australia
                • 6 & 2 burner gas BBQ's
                  Diy electric smoker
                  A-maze-n-tube 12 inch
                  Gas powered pizza oven
                  GMG Davy Crockett with Wifi
                  Rosle 24 inch charcoal kettle
                  Slow'nSear - my favourite
                  2 x Thermapens
                  2 x wireless thermometers
                  3 x wired thermometers
                  Favourite drink:
                  Scotch whiskey various brands
                  American Honey WT
                  And beer ....
                  And at work just plain old chilled water....

                That depends on whether you're looking for 'set it and forget it' ( pellet smoker) or a little babysitting ( charcoal) which is also fun. I have both and use them depending on convenience but i must say my charcoal kettle gives me better flavor and once i get my SnS it will also be complete.. The pellet grill will give you milder smoke flavour. IMHO..


                • Jerod Broussard
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 9940
                  • East Texas
                  • Pit Barrel Cooker "Texas Brisket Edition"
                    Weber One Touch Premium Copper 22" Kettle (gift)
                    Slow 'n Sear for 22" Kettle
                    Weber One Touch Premium Black 26" Kettle (gift)
                    Slow 'n Sear XL for 26" Kettle (gift)
                    Weber Smokey Joe Gold
                    Weber Rapid Fire Chimney
                    Maverick ET-732 White
                    Maverick ET-732 Copper
                    2- Auber SYL-1615 fan systems(Awesome!!!!!!!!)
                    Thermoworks Thermapen w/ Back light (gift)
                    Thermoworks Timestick
                    Cambro Model 300MPC110 w/ Winco SS Pans
                    B & B and Kingsford Charcoal
                    B & B Pellets

                  Kettle w/ slow and sear would be best to start with.

                  Pit Barrel can always come later if the need for more room arises. Just don't cook for too many other people with the PBC......


                  • Red Farr
                    Former Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 21

                    For smoking,don't use anything that doesn't allow you access to the firebox without removing something



                    • carolts
                      Charter Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 245
                      • Cookers:
                        KBQ C-60C
                        Primo Jr. + accessories
                        Pit Barrel Cooker
                        Weber Genesis propane
                        Vintage PK Grill
                        Frontgate portable infrared grill
                        Propane Lobster/Corn cooker
                        Magma Marine Kettle 2 Grill and Stove Party Size

                        Weber charcoal chimney
                        Chimney of Insanity
                        BBQ Dragon
                        BBQ Guru Party Q
                        GrillGrates for all grills (including custom set for Primo)
                        iGrill2 and iGrill mini
                        Backlit Thermapen
                        Stainless smokebox for gas grill
                        sawdust "maze" for cold smoking

                        Coffee stuff:
                        Gene Cafe CBR101 Coffee Roaster
                        Toddy cold brew coffee maker
                        Cuisinart burr grinder
                        KitchenAid blade grinder (with spice grinder attachments)

                        And, while cooking:
                        Harpoon IPA
                        Tuckerman's Pale Ale
                        Wachusett Light IPA
                        Dogfish Head American Beauty
                        Bent Water Thunderfunk

                      My progression was Weber Genesis 3-burner, Primo Jr kamado, PBC, GrillGrates for Weber and Primo, PK grill (craigslist), GrillGrates for PK (not counting the portable grill I've had for ages or the various thermometers, etc.). When I got the PK I was actually looking for a used Weber Kettle. My go-to grill tends to be the Primo. Now if there was just an SnS for the PK...


                      • Yno
                        Former Member
                        • May 2015
                        • 406
                        • Do you know the way to San Jose?

                        With GrillGrates on my four burner gasser, I am very happy with everything I grill. But I want to get into some other things that require longer cook times and less babysitting. After two days of web surfing, I am thinking seriously of ordering a Pit Barrel Cooker. I was going to try some ribs this weekend on the gasser, but temps approaching or exceeding 100 have made me seriously consider putting it off a bit. I don't need the versatility of a Weber as I would not be using the PBC as a grill, and the price is more attractive than most of the fancier rigs. I have to mull this over a bit, but I might just put in an order this weekend.


                        • Medusa
                          Charter Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 666
                          • For those who are about to Cook - WE SALUTE YOU!

                            Weber Genesis Silver B - 14 years
                            Weber OTS
                            Maverick ET-733 dual 6' probes / Thermo-Pop
                            ennoLogic eT650D IR ( -58 to 1202F)
                            Weber Rapid Fire Chimney
                            Kingsford Blue

                          Hi Wildman ,

                          I have the Weber Genesis going on 14 yrs. Plan on getting GrillGrates for it.

                          Bought a simple Weber 22.5 Kettle last Sept. ($99.00). Invested $$$ in accessories such as Vortex, Smokenator, Hinged Grate, Mavericks. Haven't really started using the Smokenator, but love the Vortex. I think the Slow&Sear rocks based on what I've seen here.

                          Love my kettle as it does things a gasser can't touch. (Also love my gasser for quick & easy cooks - won't give that up!)

                          All depends on what you want to accomplish. You can't go wrong with the advice offered here!

                          Good Luck!



                          • FLBuckeye
                            FLBuckeye commented
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                            @Medusas don't forget a PartyQ for temp control! Have had great success with the SN but I think the SnS is a big upgrade
                        • (Wildman)
                          Former Member
                          • May 2015
                          • 12
                          • South Bay, L.A., California

                          This is such great information - THANK YOU! Wartface - I love the idea of cooking bread and pizza on it, but I'm not sure I'll really be doing that. Of course, I'm thinking of short-term; but, with a good kamado, it sounds like it'd be around for the long-term. The Hasty Bake looks Niiiiice, for sure, but, to me, that's more of an investment/commitment. CurlingDog - good point, LOL, and what is YMMV? fzxdoc smarkley Jerod Broussard Yno - I did read all of the terrific things about the PBC. To me, it seems more like a smoker and less like a smoker/grill; especially with the grates about 4"(?) below the barrel rim. Also, 2-zone set up for grilling looked more challenging. carolts - the PK Grill was another one I read a lot about, and it seems like it would be easy to set up 2-zone cooking and a smoking option. It seems a bit small, and expensive for what it is, especially compared with a kettle. Red Farr - great advice. fzxdoc Jerod Broussard smarkley Jon Solberg Steve Vojtek Medusa, FLBuckeye - That Weber Kettle with S&S and maybe grill grates sounds like a great next addition for me - very versatile and affordable.
                          THANK YOU AGAIN!


                          • Huskee
                            • May 2014
                            • 15420
                            • central MI, USA
                            • Follow me on Instagram, huskeesbarbecue

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                              • PBC
                              • Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
                              • Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
                              • Dyna-Glo XL Premium dual chamber charcoal grill
                              • Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
                              • Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (black)
                              • Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
                              • Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
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                              • Thermapen MkII, orange
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                              • ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
                              • ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well

                              • Instant Pot 6qt
                              • Anova Bluetooth SV
                              • Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
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                              • BBQ Dragon
                              • Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
                              • Weber grill topper
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                              • Favorite summer beer: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold
                              • Fav other beer: DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
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                              • Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.

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                            Originally posted by Wildman View Post
                            and what is YMMV?
                            Wildman Your Mileage May Vary....meaning essentially 'your results may differ'.


                            • Breadhead
                              Breadhead commented
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                              I too... Had no clue what YMMV meant.

                              Thanks for breaking the mystery.

                              Us old guys don't get the computer lingo to quickly.

                              My four year old grandson knows my iPad better than I do.

                              I tried to post a picture on my avatar thing... It said resize it, move the corner - yeah right! I gave up.



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