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  • au4stree
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    • Aug 2018
    • 499
    • Birmingham, AL
    • Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC), PK360(graphite), Jumbo Joe and PBC. Weber kettle @ the hunting camp.

    TV recommendation (because football is coming)

    I realize this is a BBQ forum, but there are a lot of sharp people in here. I value your opinions, not just bbq stuff.

    I've been saving the $$'s for a new tv, it'll be in our living room/family room, i.e. the main tv viewing spot in the house. Currently we have a Vizio 50" flat panel, LED screen. It is a 2016 E-series model and 4K . For the most part, it does an ok job, but when watching "dark scenes" it is absolutely horrible, the picture goes pixelated and almost unwatchable. Now, before you knock my tv brand choices, I have two other Vizio tv's (bought in 2008) that are absolutely the best pictures I've seen, aside from the top of the line stuff today. They are perfect, the crispest picture, no buffering or pixelation. It handles dark scenes as well as it does sports. But this current Vizio sucks! If you're familiar with Game of Thrones, many of the scenes in that show were dark and this is when I first noticed the pixelation. Last night was maddening, my sons were watching Hunger Games: Mockingjay part 2, the scene in the sewers. It was awful.

    So, my question, have y'all had success with any particular TV/brand. I'm needing a 50" and my budget is around $1k. We watch lots of sports, baseball and football, but do watch the occasional movie. I'm not opposed to a used TV, but do like the warranty offerings at Costco, so I usually shop there first.

    Lastly, I've had the TV checked out, there is no hardware issues other than it's a bad model, i.e. subpar internals.....

    So, tell me what do you have, what's been your experiences? What do you recommend?
  • pkadare
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    I don't have a specific brand or model to recommend, however, I do strongly recommend getting one with HDR. There are 2 different versions; HDR10 and Dolby Vision. Here's an explanation of the difference:



    • au4stree
      au4stree commented
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      This is good stuff, thanks for passing along.
  • Murdy
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    • May 2018
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    • North-Central Illinois

    We have a Vizio tv and a Samsung smart tv, no complaints about either.


    • mountainsmoker
      Banned Former Member
      • Jun 2019
      • 1851
      • Bryson City, NC

      I also have had Vizio's the last few tv's and been very satisfied. I think you just got a bad one since they make so many different levels of price ranges. Just be careful and do your research, especially buying at Costco. They may be selling lower level quality to keep the cost down.

      I am sort of an electronics nerd and always want the best I can afford when it comes to things like TV's and stereo equipment. Agree with pkadare


      • Steve B
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        Samsung makes a great tv. I have 4 in my house. Look for one with at least a 240hz refreshing rate. The higher the # the faster it is. Your current tv probably has a 60hz maybe 120hz. There is a big difference in the darker scenes.
        Good luck with your new toy.


      • jfmorris
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        So, I guess a question that comes to my mind is, what was the video source for these pixelated dark scenes? Was it streamed, coming from a set top box (HBO?), and was the source 4K or 1080p? I am just wondering if it looks worse at 4K than on the older 1080p sets you own, because of the 4K resolution, and whatever scaling might be going on from broadcast or streaming sources.

        I am, I hate to say, still milking life out of two plasma TV's, as I love love love the clarity, color, brightness and especially off axis viewing I get with the plasma technology. I wish the technology had not ended in 2014 or so, but it is what it is. I have a few older and newer LCD/LED screens, and the plasma's, even the old LG from 2008, which cost a pretty penny, beat them so far, at 1080p. My second plasma was a Samsung I found on clearance for $300 when they had just gotten out of making them. I think OLED and some of the newer technologies are close or better.

        I've worked in the display industry as part of my job since 2008, and its funny to me how so many folks refer to "LED" screens and TV's, when in fact, they are LCD's, that just happen to have LED backlighting - versus the older fluorescent strips that were used. Only the new OLED stuff is really an LED screen. All the rest of it is LCD. Including the quite beautiful 5K 27" monitor I am typing this on. It has some great 500 nit LED backlighting, but its still an LCD monitor.


        • MBMorgan
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          Love plasma TV’s. Still have a couple of Panasonic’s hanging on walls ... and hoping they don’t die before OLED prices come down.

        • Locotech
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          MBMorgan I agree, I've a 12 yr. old Panasonic plasma, when they first came out, the critics said plasma wouldn't last more than a couple yrs. Mine is still looikin' great.

        • ItsAllGoneToTheDogs
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          HBO is notorious for streaming a lower quality feed during peak times. If you went back and watched a later run of the shows the blacks would be much cleaner. Those few almost all dark game of thrones episodes were the worst. Much better on their second run or streaming instead of cable.
      • grantgallagher
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        • Feb 2018
        • 953
        • NJ

        we have a 55" samsung QLED that we picked up from walmart.com refurbished. Thats where ive gotten my last few TVs and i have to say i will never pay "new" price again. Some amazing savings and we havent had ANY problems with them being refurbished.

        Whatever you land on, id def check deals on refurbished.


        • grantgallagher
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          au4stree im one of those people who keeps all the manuals in one place so it was pretty easy to find. Model number is QN55Q65F.

          Its only 120 refresh rate so based on other comments here maybe youd prefer 240 but we have loved it.

        • Bighorn Dave
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          What kind of warranty comes with the refurbished sets at Walmart if any?

        • grantgallagher
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          Bighorn Dave honestly im not sure. Never had to use it. But def something worth checking out if buying refurb
      • au4stree
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        Originally posted by jfmorris View Post
        So, I guess a question that comes to my mind is, what was the video source for these pixelated dark scenes? Was it streamed, coming from a set top box (HBO?), and was the source 4K or 1080p? I am just wondering if it looks worse at 4K than on the older 1080p sets you own, because of the 4K resolution, and whatever scaling might be going on from broadcast or streaming sources.
        You might've touched on something with the 4K scaling. The source is streaming as we view most everything through our Roku. I do however have very good internet at our location, 200+Mbps regularly. Although, I also have an antennae and the pixelation is replicated on the antennae as well as the streaming stuff. But again, you might be onto something with the 4K scaling. Perhaps my tv's processor isn't good enough to work that out?


        • jfmorris
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          Broadcast TV is 1080i or 720p at best. So the TV is doing some scaling for sure. Some content you will stream is 4K if you have a 4K capable Roku, but streamed broadcast content, like DirectTV Now, Sling, etc, will likely have a 1080p source at best. Could be the Roku, could be the TV. Hard to say...
      • panteracfh3
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        • Jul 2018
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        • "Jump in the fire!" - Metallica

        I'm partial to the Samsung tv's as they have a great picture and seem to last forever.


        • Huskee
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          • May 2014
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          I've had three Vizio's and had nothing but great luck with them, one I have is about 11 or so years old. I've had a Samsung and some other Roku-branded TV, both died in about a year-and-a-half two years. Vizio will always be my choice.


          • fuzzydaddy
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            I've never owned a Vizio. Samsung has always been my family's favorite for picture and sound. Some of the cheaper TVs I've owned were good enough for picture, but sound was lousy. Now I always research sound a bit before buying. Currently I have a SAMSUNG QN49Q6FNAFXZA and the picture and sound are fantastic.

            Best Buy: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/reviews...th-hdr/6254692


            • treesmacker
              treesmacker commented
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              There are also some good and inexpensive sound bars out there if you want better than TV sound. I have a Samsung soundbar with wireless sub-woofer and I'm happy with it (not near as good as surround sound though - if you can do it).
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            I'd recommend a lectric one; they've always seemed to have th best pitcher, especial in a dark room...

            (Them previous kerosene ones was all kinda flickery, at times, an sorta stunk up th house, after binge-watchin)

            I have three flat screens; a Vizio 42" in my LR, 24" Insignia in mbr, 32" Insignia (refurb) lox tbd...

            Ain't had problem one, with pic, sound, etc.

            Re: Sound...mines hooked into my surround sound Pioneer amp, goin out though Bose 301's/201's/Minimus 7's, so we good...

            (Need to git my (~30 yr newer) Pioneer outta th box, in th closet, an totally redo my HES, but that's a shite ton of wirin work...)
            Last edited by Mr. Bones; August 24th, 2019, 07:56 AM.


            • Locotech
              Locotech commented
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              great plan gettin rid of the kerosene model brother. fumes 'll kill ya. the type with the crank on the side are a lot nicer, and still watchable when ya don't pay the hydro

            • pkadare
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              Locotech - As soon as I saw "hydro" in your post, I knew you were a fellow Ontarian, eh! :-)

            • Locotech
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              @pkadare...north ont. here...Sudbury
          • Macktechie
            Club Member
            • Sep 2018
            • 183

            OLEDs are best for inky black color. I have found edge lit TVs don't get as dark. The plus is they are brighter but not as dark. Local dimming will give you overall better color dark but some don't get as bright. Vizio have been the coming a long way with the price and features. I used to be a Samsung fan but after 2 screens developing bright and dark spots after 1 to 2 years. I am not as high on those. I also recommend Sony TVs. This site is good for detailed reviews https://www.rtings.com/ Hopefully this wasn't information overload.


            • au4stree
              au4stree commented
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              Not info overload, I love to research before I buy. The last Vizio purchase was rushed and I'm seeing the results from that. Thanks for the info!

            • smokin fool
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              I'm at the other end, no research at all....walk by it, like it, Ka-boom its mine.
          • smokin fool
            Club Member
            • Apr 2019
            • 1404
            • Mississauga, Ont

            We have Sony, Samsung and LG plus a few no names in this house. Can't say I perfer one over the other.
            Do agree with the Plasma love thing, great picture.
            Problem with buying Flat screens is there's warehouses full of the new greatest thing over in Asia just waiting to be shipped over here, you'll never be current so go for price IMHO.


            • ItsAllGoneToTheDogs
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              I've always felt that Sony has the best software/panels at the top end... but tech is so close these days that the $600 60+inch vizio or offbrand at costco competes very well for the average user. You can't go wrong with most of these budget TVs. Vizio and Samsungs models almost all outperform Sony mid and low range so in that sub $1K range there are tons of choices. I like to check avforum to see if there are any problems with a certain size/brand but there are a ton of value options out there!




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              GrillGrates Take Gas Grills To The Infrared Zone

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              GrillGrates(TM) amplify heat, prevent flareups, make flipping foods easier, keep small foods from committing suicide, kill hotspots, are easier to clean, flip over to make a fine griddle, and can be easily removed and moved from one grill to another. You can even throw wood chips, pellets, or sawdust between the rails and deliver a quick burst of smoke to whatever is above. Every gas grill needs them.

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              PK 360 grill

              Is This Superb Charcoal Grill A Kamado Killer?

              The PK-360, with 360 square inches of cooking space, this rust free, cast aluminum charcoal grill is durable and easy to use. Four-way venting means it's easy to set up for two zone cooking with more control than single vent Kamado grills. It is much easier to set up for 2-zone cooking than any round kamado. Beautifully designed and completely portable. Meathead says it is his preferrred grill.

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              kareubequ bbq smoker

              Our Favorite Backyard Smoker

              The amazing Karubecue is the most innovative smoker in the world. The quality of meat from this machine is astonishing. At its crux is a patented firebox that burns logs above the cooking chamber and sucks heat and extremely clean blue smoke into the thermostat controlled oven. It is our favorite smoker, period.

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              Masterbuilt MPS 340/G ThermoTemp XL Propane Smoker

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              The First Propane Smoker With A Thermostat Makes This Baby Foolproof

              Set ThermoTemp's dial from 175° to 350°F and the thermostat inside will adjust the burner just like an indoor kitchen oven. All you need to do is add wood to the tray above the burner to start smokin'.

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              Fireboard: The Ultimate Top Of The Line BBQ Thermometer

              fireboard bbq thermometer

              With the ability to monitor up to six temperatures simultaneously with either Bluetooth or Wifi on your mobile phone, tablet, or computer, Fireboard is the best digital thermometer we’ve tested.

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              Finally, A Great Portable Pellet Smoker

              Green Mountain Davey Crockett Grill

              Green Mountain's portable Davy Crockett Pellet Smoker is one mean tailgating and picnic machine. But it's also gaining popularity with people who want to add a small, set it and forget it pellet smoker to their backyard arsenal. And with their WiFi capabilities you can control and monitor Davy Crocket from your smart phone or laptop.

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